Powers & Abilities So does everyone agree Enma not a power up now.

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
I posted a lot of proof you just avoid them.
No, you didnt. Zoro told you on panel that what you think is wrong. Why do you disagree?

How come enma is nota power up but raid suit is?
You guy say that enma only gives Zoro what he can already do but the raid suit also gives Sanji what he can already do..
Enma does nothing aside from providing some Haki training, we have yet to see the result of that.
RS gives Sanji what he doesnt have, Invisiblity and durability buff as the most notable ones.
Other buffs like speed buff and thrusters have yet to make any difference.
 

MonsterZoro

Bald Spoiler Provider
No, you didnt. Zoro told you on panel that what you think is wrong. Why do you disagree?


Enma does nothing aside from providing some Haki training, we have yet to see the result of that.
RS gives Sanji what he doesnt have, Invisiblity and durability buff as the most notable ones.
Other buffs like speed buff and thrusters have yet to make any difference.
no speed buff sanji shown faster speed than raid suit many times.

Raid suit give him durability invsibility and more stamina but enma give zoro a way to blast all his haki at once into one super strong attack. Enma gives him better defense because he can use a sword to block instead of his own body as you saw with hawkins he used his swords to block some of the nails. A Sword give Zoro insane attack power without sword Zoro can't even break out of chains or a chimney..
 
No, you didnt. Zoro told you on panel that what you think is wrong. Why do you disagree?


Enma does nothing aside from providing some Haki training, we have yet to see the result of that.
RS gives Sanji what he doesnt have, Invisiblity and durability buff as the most notable ones.
Other buffs like speed buff and thrusters have yet to make any difference.
Zoro gets a stiff one with Enma and that's about it. We might be seeing Sanjis arc finally and Elbaf be Zoros death, I mean arc and time to shine.
 
No, you didnt. Zoro told you on panel that what you think is wrong. Why do you disagree?
I guess Climat tact aren't powerUp since Nami needs to train to use them correctly.
Why Enma is so different of Shusui or Sandai ? I mean he needed to be use to those swords right ? Thats mean they are also training tool ?
-Have you ever seen a training tool more hyped than the actual training ?
They have two panel of zoro getting used to Enma and at least 10x more just to hype Emma. Moreover those two panels are focused to talk about an other future PowerUp.
Just compare to every training SH did get thats nothing for a training who is here to fight a Younko and his crew in a War.
Or compare it to Seastone cuffs Luffy gets they didn't get such staging but they are also training tool ?
Why Enma is so different of Shusui or Sandai ? I mean he needed to be use to those swords right ? Thats mean they are also training tool ?
-Have you ever seen a training tool more hyped than the actual training ?
They have two panel of zoro getting used to Enma and at least 10x more just to hype Emma. Moreover those two panels are focused to talk about an other future PowerUp.
Just compare to every training SH did get thats nothing for a training who is here to fight a Younko and his crew in a War.
Or compare it to Seastone cuffs Luffy gets they didn't get such staging but they are also training tool ?

Also we call that a training but Zoro only said get use to this sword. By the way Hitetsu said this "training" was easier for Zoro since he have Wado.
Explain me how posses a sword help you to manage well your CoA with an other sword ?
I said staging/built-up doesn't let any doubt on Enma. It's a PowerUp.
Until now no one was able to show me a similar built-up for a training tool.
The built-up for Enma is the one for PowerUp and not for training tool.
Therefore Enma is a PowerUp.
Unless you can prove a training tool as the same built-up.
In this case I will agree that Enma is a training tool
Moreover all those questions hasn't get any answer. Except from headcannons.
You just avoid them.
So sad.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
no speed buff sanji shown faster speed than raid suit many times.

Raid suit give him durability invsibility and more stamina but enma give zoro a way to blast all his haki at once into one super strong attack. Enma gives him better defense because he can use a sword to block instead of his own body as you saw with hawkins he used his swords to block some of the nails. A Sword give Zoro insane attack power without sword Zoro can't even break out of chains or a chimney..
Well, I am not expecting much from speed buff but Niji with suit did call Sanji's speed slow. Could be that with suit he is faster, we will see. Yes, Invisibility and Durability are the strong points of the RS as those two matter the most. Acceleration device supposedly increasing kicking power has yet to make a difference, maybe there is more than we saw, maybe not. I think the suit gives him no stamina buff at all, dunno how that would even work. If you meant Endurance, I guess so...

But Zoro doesnt want to use all his Haki at once, that is bad and it is not like he couldnt put all into one attack before. You can see that those mountain slashes have exhausted him noticeably. Besides, where would he need bigger slashes than against a mountain?
Yes, a sword gives defense but Shusui was a better defense, Enma only replaces Shusui. Yes, it gives him attack power but Shusui already did that too.
I guess Climat tact aren't powerUp since Nami needs to train to use them correctly.
Clima tact doesnt train your haki.

Which part of this is confusing you?
 

MonsterZoro

Bald Spoiler Provider
Well, I am not expecting much from speed buff but Niji with suit did call Sanji's speed slow. Could be that with suit he is faster, we will see. Yes, Invisibility and Durability are the strong points of the RS as those two matter the most. Acceleration device supposedly increasing kicking power has yet to make a difference, maybe there is more than we saw, maybe not. I think the suit gives him no stamina buff at all, dunno how that would even work. If you meant Endurance, I guess so...

But Zoro doesnt want to use all his Haki at once, that is bad and it is not like he couldnt put all into one attack before. You can see that those mountain slashes have exhausted him noticeably. Besides, where would he need bigger slashes than against a mountain?
Yes, a sword gives defense but Shusui was a better defense, Enma only replaces Shusui. Yes, it gives him attack power but Shusui already did that too.

Clima tact doesnt train your haki.

Which part of this is confusing you?
Stamina because he doesn't need skywalk to fly and he doesn't need to use his own legs to move fast anymore. He can just use the acclerators to move instead of his own speed
 
Avoiding every questions as ever.
I have seen Nami being confident after she learns how to control climat tact. I also seen Ussop telling to Nami to practice with the Climat tact 2.0.
Is climat tact a PowerUp ? Or training is the PowerUp.
So same situation
you conveniently left out the part where nami was easily swinging this new clima tact without any practice whatsoever.

Lmfao, so not only being disingenuous about my statements but the contents of the manga as well.

Stop the trolling and get real arguments
 
Clima tact doesnt train your haki.
So If something doesn't train your Haki it's not a PowerUp ?
Lmaaoo

you conveniently left out the part where nami was easily swinging this new clima tact without any practice whatsoever.

Lmfao, so not only being disingenuous about my statements but the contents of the manga as well.

Stop the trolling and get real arguments
You seen Nami using the climat Tact with zero practice ?
Bring this panel please.
Ussop clearly said You need to practice with it.

At this point you are just blind
 
How come enma is nota power up but raid suit is?

You guy say that enma only gives Zoro what he can already do but the raid suit also gives Sanji what he can already do..
the raid suit instantly gives sanji more durability, for one.

The rest is pretty much the same though, boosters, floating device, invisibility are useless if you dont know how to properly use them. SO outside the durability stuff, sanji needs to get accustomed to fighting with the RS as well.
 

MonsterZoro

Bald Spoiler Provider
the raid suit instantly gives sanji more durability, for one.

The rest is pretty much the same though, boosters, floating device, invisibility are useless if you dont know how to properly use them. SO outside the durability stuff, sanji needs to get accustomed to fighting with the RS as well.
Yes the durability is one of the best power up the raid suit can give him since he can use something to block now. Sanji doesn't have haki like luffy or a rubber devil fruit or swords to block, so his body was his only weakness.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
So If something doesn't train your Haki it's not a PowerUp ?
Lmaaoo
No, Clima tact is straight power-up which gives abilities that user doesnt have.
Enma, on the other hand, provides you only with Haki training, it doesnt give you a buff, it gives you a debuff for the time until you get used to it.
because he is lying about panels, thats why.
Seems like he is trying to trigger us but is triggering himself instead. Weird fella.
 
You seen Nami using the climat Tact with zero practice ?
Bring this panel please.
Ussop clearly said You need to practice with it.

At this point you are just blind


:gokulaugh:

literally the next page/next few panels

Thanks for exposing yourself as a lying troll to everyone, i guess im done here lmfao

Seems like he is trying to trigger us but is triggering himself instead. Weird fella.
and exposing himself ^
 
No, Clima tact is straight power-up which gives abilities that user doesnt have.
Enma, on the other hand, provides you only with Haki training, it doesnt give you a buff, it gives you a debuff for the time until you get used to it.
When Nami gets Climat tact 2.0 she has the ability to control weather since two years thanks to the first climat tact.
 
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