[FNZ] Role Madness Breaking Bad Role Madness

[Sallucion]

His vote wasn't random, but I thought he came across as very insincere.

Guess I have to read full discussion before I called it random.

 

[Flower]

Ultra - explained
Hime - I've liked her more recent posts, but I still think her conclusion that my read on you is TMI is super super lazy
Ekko - explained

Am liking Drago less and less too.

Well, then, let's get sth moving.

Vote Ultra.

 

[Nana]

I did notice @Nana 's vote on you coming on too fast. I don't think I saw an explanation for it either.

@Nana what's your exact reason for voting Hime here? Also what were your reads prior to that and right now?

I was sheeping sk

I had like 50 pages to read and give up on that

My scum reads were mostly

Ekko, Ultra, Ratchet, Rej, Flower

For reasons I stated before

 

[hime]

Also wouldn't mind an Ultra lynch here either. In fact

Vote: Ultra

ur really scum reading him more than me? this feels a bit sudden ngl
i heard about u vs ekko being a big thing but not really u vs ultra

although im happy ur not voting me, i havent particularly done anything yet (nor has ultra) for u to change ur vote

 

[Ratchet]

ur really scum reading him more than me? this feels a bit sudden ngl
i heard about u vs ekko being a big thing but not really u vs ultra

although im happy ur not voting me, i havent particularly done anything yet (nor has ultra) for u to change ur vote

Not more or less, I've gone over Ultra pretty regularly too. There is no harm in changing direction just to see what happens.

 

[hime]

I was sheeping sk

I had like 50 pages to read and give up on that

My scum reads were mostly

Ekko, Ultra, Ratchet, Rej, Flower

For reasons I stated before

ratchet and flowa were voting me when u voted

if u scum read them both, y vote me even if u do town read sk?

 

[hime]

Well, then, let's get sth moving.

Vote Ultra.

r u going to sheep ratchet this game?

what r ur reads agn?

 

[Ratchet]

you scum read ultra?

I think it is far too early for you to have made anything close to a decisive read on my alignment.
Correct.

Incorrect.

Well, no. The statement "You (Ratchet) scum read Ultra" is correct. Whether I am right in that scum read is another matter.

That would imply you genuinely believe it. I have no reason to assume that's the case with your passive, tepid comment towards me.

Didn't he state that he didn't read your posts to begin with

He did, but in fairness, he may have took my prompt to go back and read some.

But according to him, he hasn't, so past that what does his interpretation of your posts matter? It seems like you're forcing a contradiction in his comprehension when there really isn't one of you take his word at face value.

This doesn't really make any sense. He himself offered that descriptor - which plainly indicates that he must have read them. Furthermore, in post #527, he states that even if he does pull up the posts that lead him to that, I would be dismissive, which is why he doesn't do so. This implies he believes there are individual posts that exemplifies the behaviour he characterised, which in turn means he must have read them.

I cannot see how you conclude, then, that this comes from me "forcing a contradiction" when it's very plainly already there.

He could very easily have not read your posts and given your history between you and Ekko filled the gap with the presumption you two were arguing at length because you've got "a thing". That's probably what occured here, or he skimmed and got a bare impression.

If not - and he's feigning like he hasn't read your posts when he actually has, I don't think you need justification for suspecting him past that. But I don't see that as really something all that necessary to lie about.

In any case, questioning him on these grounds comes across as a forced "gotcha", and it's not very compelling.

This is all incorrect, and rather wildly so in fact. I just pointed out a specific post, allow me to quote it verbatim:

his *very clearly* indicates that he has something *to bring* but will not do so because he thinks I won't accept it. For this to be true, he must have read some parts of it. This is further evidenced from his post where he says he twn reads Ekko, where he quotes a very specific portion of our discussion that, if he had not been reading, he simply could not have made:
Emphasis mine.

Which in turn brings me to you. Frankly, I don't think your opinion on this is at all erudite, but yet you've clearly read the thread, so I don't see any reason to view it charitably. See, I can reconcile Pero as simply being stubborn and wanting to say *something* even if that something isn't very good, and instead of conceding it, arguing himself into a hole. He does that quite a lot. That's more of a personality trait, and thus is good enough for me to give some benefit of the doubt (though not entirely, hence my vote, and my questioning him in the first place).
I don't think you could be more insincere here if you tried. Why does it come across as a "gotcha" when the evidence speaks for itself?

My point is that as a prior, he clearly isn't all that invested in your discussion, which is rather apparent. So that you're holding him to his interpretation, and using that to justify a vote, comes off as weak, and reaching for low hanging fruit. It's not readily apparent how this contradiction translates to scum intention, and you've admitted as much yourself.

Your point, initially, was that there was no apparent contradiction, because it's mostly redundant to lie about. Now that I've established there was one, you've changed your point, to avoid making any concession. My vote doesn't need to be justified, because it was there to prompt further engagement from him, and I've already stated after making said vote that I'm probably not lynching him today regardless.

As an aside, you're mostly rambling here. You claim I'm reaching for low hanging fruit, and that I've ultimately overplayed my hand, and have been caught cold. But yet, for the first element of that claim to be true, I must have, on some level, actively pushed for a Pero lynch on the basis that I believe him to be scum, when as you yurself say - I've done no such thing. What remains is a rather convoluted image where you haven't actually told me *what* you think I'm doing here - you're following from one argument to the next without much regard for analysis around my slot. Ultra, I haven't gotten any impression that you're engaging with me here intending to solve me.

My position is that the contradiction you outlined lacked impact. If you're voting for a player, I'm going to take it you assume that player has done something wrong enough to warrant suspicion, and so if they're a a weak or blizzard thought process behind that I'm going to question it. That you're trying to telegraph to me here that your vote isn't serious or that you're not certain about him or whatever doesn't really change that.

*lacked impact* really may as well be saying nothing, because it's not the position you first had, but the one you've tried to bait and switch into when it was established that it was, actually, present. And it really should change your perspective, because none of my behaviour around that vote suggested it came from wanting to pursue a lynch on Pero.

@hime

 

[Nana]

ratchet and flowa were voting me when u voted

if u scum read them both, y vote me even if u do town read sk?

I am buying what they claimed for now

I thought someone caught u slipping
I said I didn't read the 2nd part of the game and no one provided me any summary except them pointing out u were TMIng and soft defense on someone



Unvote

 

[Charlie]

@Charlie do you have a read list ?

Basically it's what I colored Green for town. Everyone who's still pushing you/Ratchet as scum lean. Like Kagura for example. I'd actually vote Kagura. Usopp is either scum or he's tunnelling you both due to outside of this game reasons. Same thing for Hime.

Vote Lynch Kagura

Have you reevaluated your view on Ratchet and Flower?

Did anyone get an amp btw?

Even i figured out what you're trully asking about here xd they shouldn't respond imo.

actually go ahead and lynch me then

it will at least tell town not to trust anything from ur mouth this game and perhaps town's game will improve from there on

Vote Lynch Hime

I mean, if you are town, you should back of from Ratchet and Flower imo. Getting yourself lynched and flipping as town would make other towns look bad. Assuming you are town that is. So it's not without consequences. What are you top 3 Lynch candidates? Other than these 2 that is.

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Quote this post if you are interested.​

I mean, why not. Sounds like something positive.

 

[Nana]

Wendy`s services are available!

Did you have a hard day at work and your brain is cooked out? Come have some moments with me at the Crossroads motel, i promise you will have the best time of your life in the company of t` greatest girl this city has ever seen, we will do anything you like.

Quote this post if you are interested.​

In

 

[Charlie]

Basically it's what I colored Green for town. Everyone who's still pushing you/Ratchet as scum lean. Like Kagura for example. I'd actually vote Kagura. Usopp is either scum or he's tunnelling you both due to outside of this game reasons. Same thing for Hime.

Vote Lynch Kagura

Have you reevaluated your view on Ratchet and Flower?



Even i figured out what you're trully asking about here xd they shouldn't respond imo.



I mean, if you are town, you should back of from Ratchet and Flower imo. Getting yourself lynched and flipping as town would make other towns look bad. Assuming you are town that is. So it's not without consequences. What are you top 3 Lynch candidates? Other than these 2 that is.



I mean, why not. Sounds like something positive.

Forgot to tag you @Kagurashii

 

[Flower]

r u going to sheep ratchet this game?

what r ur reads agn?

Ultra, Ekko, Gramma: Scum.
Slight scum lean on Adam.
Mini scum lean on you.

Town read: Pero, Ratchet, Charlie, Pein, Baki, Cal.
Slight Town: SK, Indigo, Nana, Prof.
Getting weaker Town lean on Drago. His fishing attempt was horrendous.

The Baki Town read is angle-shooting, though.

 

[Adam 🍎]

Wendy`s services are available!

Did you have a hard day at work and your brain is cooked out? Come have some moments with me at the Crossroads motel, i promise you will have the best time of your life in the company of t` greatest girl this city has ever seen, we will do anything you like.

Quote this post if you are interested.​

Begone wench

 

[Adam 🍎]

Oh fuck no i quoted it

 

[Nana]

Looking at Peroroncino posts

He hasn't contributed much, provided some reads, but didn't follow or vote any of them

It is like he has been mainly lurking

The most i have seen from him was his interaction with ratchet

 

[DoflaMihawk]

actually go ahead and lynch me then

it will at least tell town not to trust anything from ur mouth this game and perhaps town's game will improve from there on

Vote Lynch Hime

Don't leave me alone here

 

[Nana]

Oh fuck no i quoted it

Don't be shy, just say u lowkey wanted that service

 

[Adam 🍎]

Don't be shy, just say u lowkey wanted that service

Not my type

 

[Ratchet]

Not my type

So who is next Adam? On the scum radar.