[FNZ] Salem of Lies Throne Of Lies: Darkness over Worstgen

[ConquistadoR]

What kind of bullshit logic is this even?

As if it was easy like that. You might even get two mislynches when you lynch hime after me because I think she´s town. How should she be in a team with Ekko? Where´s the proof that such a connection between hime and Ekko exists? They wouldn´t have needed that whole whispering stuff if they would be in a scum team together in the first place.

Because if you flip town, it means that not only did you see Ekko visit on N1 (thereby proving his lie), you also saw Ekko visit Hime and thereby proving that Hime also lied about her redirecting Ekko to Light.

 

[Ratchet]

I don't know why people are putting joy over ekko here




JG claimed that she saw ekko visiting hime.


This info in itself in not incriminating ekko. No scum would come out in open to reveal such info.



Then hime claims she redirected ekko to light.

So it contradicts jg claim


But what's more contradicting is there is no role which fits ekko except for hunter and he is consistently denying coming out in open about it.


What if ekko rbed hime?

Do you think town ekko would beat around the bush regarding his claim?


He is simply wasting time.

And, if anyone claims things which fits is role then he will say I never claimed it and town assumed it. He is keeping options open.

He is clearly scum here. No way a town could be beat around the bush like this

Look, I've made my reasoning very clear. If you can't contest that, then you cncede that from a mix/max standpoint Joy is the best lynch.

 

[Ratchet]

Because if you flip town, it means that not only did you see Ekko visit on N1 (thereby proving his lie), you also saw Ekko visit Hime and thereby proving that Hime also lied about her redirecting Ekko to Light.

Well we'd always flip Ekko first, if he'a a redirect immune role Hime *could* be telling he truth.

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

thereby proving that Hime also lied about her redirecting Ekko to Light

That doesn't follow.

 

[Reborn]

Because if you flip town, it means that not only did you see Ekko visit on N1 (thereby proving his lie), you also saw Ekko visit Hime and thereby proving that Hime also lied about her redirecting Ekko to Light.

If ekko flips town then same logic can be applied to JG and hime


So why giving priority to jg over someone who isn't even claiming anything properly?

 

[Lord Melkor]

@Ekkologix are you Hunter?

 

[Lord Melkor]

@Light D Lamperouge do you want me to share my info?

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

@Light D Lamperouge do you want me to share my info?

Yes I think it's fine if you do. And I believe we need to sort everything out now.

 

[ConquistadoR]

That doesn't follow.

It does if Ekko isn't Redirect Immune, which is easily provable with Ekko's lynch right after.

If ekko flips town then same logic can be applied to JG and hime


So why giving priority to jg over someone who isn't even claiming anything properly?

Because it doesn't work the other way around.

If Ekko flips town, all you can get out of it for sure is that JG lied and is scum. There is no way of proving Hime's alignment with that flip. I'm simply looking to resolve more slots.

 

[Reborn]

Look, I've made my reasoning very clear. If you can't contest that, then you cncede that from a mix/max standpoint Joy is the best lynch.

And, I don't buy your reasoning because its flawed.



Did it occur to you that Ekko could be lying about not being redirect immune?

What jg if scum will gain anything from simply revealing that she ekko visited hime? Nothing.....

I am not trusting someone who has spend last few hours dropping hint of hunter just to say "I am not claiming or denying anything" and still refuses to claim actions.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Well we'd always flip Ekko first, if he'a a redirect immune role Hime *could* be telling he truth.

Exactly. The point is we can find out whether Hime lied or not for sure with JG's flip but not with Ekko's flip.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Yes I think it's fine if you do. And I believe we need to sort everything out now.

I protected Joy tonight from kills.

And I know that Worst was not killed by scum role, so I think Joy could have been the scum failed kill.

 

[Ratchet]

And, I don't buy your reasoning because its flawed.

You need to demonstrate the flaw, then.

Did it occur to you that Ekko could be lying about not being redirect immune?

Of course it did. But unless he and Hime are scum together he can't have a *harmful* ability. That's why Joy should be the lynch. If she's scum, she could be anything. If Ekko is scum, he's more of a known quantity. I explained this very clearly earlier.

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

o I think Joy could have been the scum failed kill.

That's not necessarily true, because there were at least 2 more people immune to death the previous night.

 

[Joygirl1]

Of course I´m thinking a lot about what hime stated too because it´s confusing me :zorothink:

What would be when I got redirected by someone to Light too? And I would have seen Ekko there because he got redirected there by hime? Is something like that possible?
That of course would mean that Ekko lied about not having used any ability last night.
But it would explain why what hime is saying contradicts me.

On the other hand the odds aren´t high that two redirections took place and both were directed to Light, sounds too much like a coincidence, right? But I can´t think of so much other explanations for that either

 

[Reborn]

You need to demonstrate the flaw, then.
Of course it did. But unless he and Hime are scum together he can't have a *harmful* ability. That's why Joy should be the lynch. If she's scum, she could be anything. If Ekko is scum, he's more of a known quantity. I explained this very clearly earlier.

Harmful ability in what sense?


Ekko says he can't visit anyone N1.


Only role which exist with such condition is the hunter. But we have an issue here


First, hunter can't use ability on others till N3 and not just N1


Second, ekko after dropping hints for the hunter and when town picked it up and questioned him more, he backtracked immediately to say he doesn't deny or accept anything and won't reveal anything anymore.


Does this give you town vibe?

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Of course I´m thinking a lot about what hime stated too because it´s confusing me :zorothink:

What would be when I got redirected by someone to Light too? And I would have seen Ekko there because he got redirected there by hime? Is something like that possible?
That of course would mean that Ekko lied about not having used any ability last night.
But it would explain why what hime is saying contradicts me.

On the other hand the odds aren´t high that two redirections took place and both were directed to Light, sounds too much like a coincidence, right? But I can´t think of so much other explanations for that either

JG, I know this is tiring, but I need you to double check with Fuji one more time if you were indeed watching Hime.

 

[Ratchet]

Harmful ability in what sense?

If he's scum he isn't a killer or a blocker. If he's a recruiter Hime is guaranteed scum.

 

[Reborn]

If he's scum he isn't a killer or a blocker. If he's a recruiter Hime is guaranteed scum.

And, that's why we need to see ekko's flip don't you think?

 

[Ratchet]

Reborn you need to actually address my reasoning here. What you're coming back with isn't good enough.