eh oda uses lightning like that for all kinds of shit and even characters that dont have haki at all. if he would have consistency regarding this, i'd say sure. but since oda loves smoking crack, i still take that lightning with a grain of salt. especially since at that time we didnt even know about adCoC.
Speculations Yamato did not have Sea Stone cuffs on
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Kizaru never used a named attack on Apoo
sure go ahead and try
No one is talking about killing, schizo
No she isn't. It's clearly Who's Who
lmao, show me where she said she didn't wanna kill ulti
Yamato is a weak shitter
1 thunder bagua almost had her on the floor even when she used defense and countered with her bagua.
while someone like Law with no special defense tanked bagua and went to fight big mom no problem
sure go ahead and try
No one is talking about killing, schizo
No she isn't. It's clearly Who's Who
lmao, show me where she said she didn't wanna kill ulti
Yamato is a weak shitter
1 thunder bagua almost had her on the floor even when she used defense and countered with her bagua.
while someone like Law with no special defense tanked bagua and went to fight big mom no problem
while someone like Law with no special defense tanked bagua and went to fight big mom no problem
Law is a doctor with a fruit that is suited for medical treatment, the man literally cured himself of an incurable disease before the age of 15 and can apply treatment onto himself. How many people can put their own body parts back together?
And imagine comparing a single TB to a whole ass actual 1v1 battle with hybrid Kaido where he clubbed the shit out of Yamato with ACoC.
Kizaru never used a named attack on Apoo
sure go ahead and try
No one is talking about killing, schizo
No she isn't. It's clearly Who's Who
lmao, show me where she said she didn't wanna kill ulti
Yamato is a weak shitter
1 thunder bagua almost had her on the floor even when she used defense and countered with her bagua.
while someone like Law with no special defense tanked bagua and went to fight big mom no problem
sure go ahead and try
No one is talking about killing, schizo
No she isn't. It's clearly Who's Who
lmao, show me where she said she didn't wanna kill ulti
Yamato is a weak shitter
1 thunder bagua almost had her on the floor even when she used defense and countered with her bagua.
while someone like Law with no special defense tanked bagua and went to fight big mom no problem
Chapter 1009, Rooftop Luffy is defeated by Kaido in an instant
1.
Characters can't use haki with sea stone cuffs on
As soon as Luffy got his sea stone cuffs removed, he was able to use haki:
Yamato used haki with cuffs on, which makes them not sea stone
2.
Luffy was able to use haki while touching them and destroy them,
which makes them not sea stone because Luffy can't use haki while touching sea stone and sea stone is said to be indestructible
Even someone like Shiki couldn't escape sea stone cuffs and had to cut off his limbs
Big Mom had do ask people to unlock her sea stone cuffs
Same for Kaido. He had to ask people to unlock her cuffs. If he could destroy them, he would've destroyed them himself
The whole imprisonment system gets thrown out out of the window if characters can just use haki, destroy sea stone and escape imprisonment
3.
No, Luffy's collar in Udon was not from sea stone. It was just a regular steel collar. That's why he was able to use haki with them and destroy them
4.
Yamato's cuffs were exploding cuffs. How can they explode if they are sea stone? Sea stone is indestructible, they wouldn't explode
5.
Yamato never mentioned anything about Sea Stone. She only mentioned that they explode
EDIT: someone pointed out another good point
6.
Yamato was imprisoned since her childhood when she didn't have a devil fruit. If those cuffs were sea stone, she wouldn't be able to use her devil fruit for 20+ years.
Yet when she was fighting Kaido, she knew how her devil fruit worked, all its forms and attacks
You literally have to ignore the whole story to take Vivre Card statement as true.
It's just a cheap merchandise made for a consoomer with no brain
Characters can't use haki with sea stone cuffs on
As soon as Luffy got his sea stone cuffs removed, he was able to use haki:
Yamato used haki with cuffs on, which makes them not sea stone
2.
Luffy was able to use haki while touching them and destroy them,
which makes them not sea stone because Luffy can't use haki while touching sea stone and sea stone is said to be indestructible
Even someone like Shiki couldn't escape sea stone cuffs and had to cut off his limbs
Big Mom had do ask people to unlock her sea stone cuffs
Same for Kaido. He had to ask people to unlock her cuffs. If he could destroy them, he would've destroyed them himself
The whole imprisonment system gets thrown out out of the window if characters can just use haki, destroy sea stone and escape imprisonment
3.
No, Luffy's collar in Udon was not from sea stone. It was just a regular steel collar. That's why he was able to use haki with them and destroy them
4.
Yamato's cuffs were exploding cuffs. How can they explode if they are sea stone? Sea stone is indestructible, they wouldn't explode
5.
Yamato never mentioned anything about Sea Stone. She only mentioned that they explode
EDIT: someone pointed out another good point
6.
Yamato was imprisoned since her childhood when she didn't have a devil fruit. If those cuffs were sea stone, she wouldn't be able to use her devil fruit for 20+ years.
Yet when she was fighting Kaido, she knew how her devil fruit worked, all its forms and attacks
You literally have to ignore the whole story to take Vivre Card statement as true.
It's just a cheap merchandise made for a consoomer with no brain
Can you show a panel of him healing himself from physical damage?
treating a virus vs healing physical damage is not the same
Show a panel
Not Law
He needed that tontata princess to put his arm together
Don't care.
Scabbards weaker than Chopper got back up from Kaido's attacks
Well then, I guess 4 scabbards beat Kaido
treating a virus vs healing physical damage is not the same
Show a panel
Not Law
He needed that tontata princess to put his arm together
Don't care.
Scabbards weaker than Chopper got back up from Kaido's attacks
Well then, I guess 4 scabbards beat Kaido
You're right, healing physical damage is child's play compared to treating a virus.
See above.
Nah, his arm was still bleeding. He did the treatment onto himself.
Princess' abilities also only last for four minutes, it is a temporary fix. Law's arm was permanently back on.
Don't care.
Scabbards weaker than Chopper got back up from Kaido's attacks
Well then, I guess 4 scabbards beat Kaido
Scabbards weaker than Chopper got back up from Kaido's attacks
Well then, I guess 4 scabbards beat Kaido
LMAO that's from tontatas
Leo sewn his arm together and then mancherry healed his arm. That's not Law's power, brainlet
Except Law never healed no physical damage, that's just you speedreading
literally never happened
Where are you getting this fantasy from? No wonder you think Yamato is strong. You are plain retarded who makes shit up
wtf have you been reading? Clearly you've never read this series
How about you read what I say instead of rephrasing in your retarded sentence?
I showed him that Kaido was knocked out by 4 scabbards, so by that logic if Kaido beat Luffy by knocking Luffy out, then 4 scabbards beat Kaido.
And I'm saying that Chopper is stronger than weaker scabbards like Kiku or Raizo, that took the beating from Kaido and still got back up.
Leo sewn his arm together and then mancherry healed his arm. That's not Law's power, brainlet
Except Law never healed no physical damage, that's just you speedreading
literally never happened
Where are you getting this fantasy from? No wonder you think Yamato is strong. You are plain retarded who makes shit up
Princess' abilities also only last for four minutes, it is a temporary fix. Law's arm was permanently back on.
What the hell are you trying to say? That Chopper > Scabbards > Yamato? How low can you get?
I showed him that Kaido was knocked out by 4 scabbards, so by that logic if Kaido beat Luffy by knocking Luffy out, then 4 scabbards beat Kaido.
And I'm saying that Chopper is stronger than weaker scabbards like Kiku or Raizo, that took the beating from Kaido and still got back up.
Yes she did. We see haki lightning from thunder bagua
He was also fighting and telling her how she has to rule humans and be a shogun
She can't do those things if she's dead
What excuses? Did you ever see Admiral use ultimate attack on Luffy and fail to put Luffy down?
I guess you think Kanjuro's painting can 1v1 Kaido as well?
The whole fight was offscreened. Who knows what happened then.
Oh please, rootop Kaido couldn't one shot Usopp with a thunder bagua.
Literally everyone was tanking thunder baguas from Kaido on the roof:
act 1 Kaido one shotting Luffy was simply badly written moment that was retconned by Oda to Kaido unable to beat anyone. I bet Usopp would tank at least 3 baguas from Kaido
It doesn't matter what he thinks about himself because it would require him to know the strength of outsiders
What matters is that he knows the strength of his crew and Yamato who he was fighting all the time
They never thought they could beat a calamity
oh, I didn't know that wearing sea stone for a certain time somehow allows you to use haki. Can you show me where you've got this information from?
Luffy went in 1 week went from fighting Katakuri to destroying Kaido. I think he can handle sea stone better than Yamato
Oh, thanks for another good point!
If that's sea stone, Yamato would never be able to use her devil fruit, yet when she fought Kaido, she knew how her devil fruit worked and all its abilities
....What?
nope, they were competing who will catch Yamato first
Why do I have to have agenda for pointing out how retarded people are for blindly trusting vivre cards and not using their brains?
He was also fighting and telling her how she has to rule humans and be a shogun
She can't do those things if she's dead
What excuses? Did you ever see Admiral use ultimate attack on Luffy and fail to put Luffy down?
I guess you think Kanjuro's painting can 1v1 Kaido as well?
The whole fight was offscreened. Who knows what happened then.
Oh please, rootop Kaido couldn't one shot Usopp with a thunder bagua.
Literally everyone was tanking thunder baguas from Kaido on the roof:
- Law tanked it with no block
- half dead Zoro tanked it and still was up talking lmfao
- Luffy alone tanked like 100's of baguas
act 1 Kaido one shotting Luffy was simply badly written moment that was retconned by Oda to Kaido unable to beat anyone. I bet Usopp would tank at least 3 baguas from Kaido
It doesn't matter what he thinks about himself because it would require him to know the strength of outsiders
What matters is that he knows the strength of his crew and Yamato who he was fighting all the time
They never thought they could beat a calamity
oh, I didn't know that wearing sea stone for a certain time somehow allows you to use haki. Can you show me where you've got this information from?
Luffy went in 1 week went from fighting Katakuri to destroying Kaido. I think he can handle sea stone better than Yamato
Oh, thanks for another good point!
If that's sea stone, Yamato would never be able to use her devil fruit, yet when she fought Kaido, she knew how her devil fruit worked and all its abilities
....What?
nope, they were competing who will catch Yamato first
Why do I have to have agenda for pointing out how retarded people are for blindly trusting vivre cards and not using their brains?
Because it didnt do anything against Yamato?
Weird logicWe saw the begging of it,
got glimpses of it the middle
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Does this look like the face of whoever is joking?
LMAO that's from tontatas
Leo sewn his arm together and then mancherry healed his arm. That's not Law's power, brainlet
Except Law never healed no physical damage, that's just you speedreading
literally never happened
Leo sewn his arm together and then mancherry healed his arm. That's not Law's power, brainlet
Except Law never healed no physical damage, that's just you speedreading
literally never happened
You're the one claiming Yamato doesn't have seastone cuffs when Vivre card outright says she did.
At least I can own up to my mistakes but you can't ever seem to let your headcanons go.And Yamato IS strong, you just ignore all the evidence and narrative testament laid in front of you.
Ignoring the fact that she has ACoC, fought Kaido 1v1, took her seriously, acknowledged her as powerful, blocked his hybrid attack in base, etc.But no Kaido sending ALL the Tobi Roppo after her, while she is cuffed with Seastone (once again, confirmed by secondary sources), means she is weak.
I was thinking of her Dandelixir ability, which only lasts for a few minutes which she used on the Dressrosa fighters.
Chopper isn't stronger than any of the Scabbards. ALL of these Scabbards have CoA strong enough to cut through Kaido.
None of the Scabbards can even begin to compare to Yamato. Here is the difference in portrayal/feats.
Kinemon trying to block base Kaido:
Base Yamato blocking hybrid Kaido:
I don't even need to do that.
Kaido himself knew that 1 Tobiroppo was strong enough to capture her
And capturing her only grants the right to challenge an All Star
Kaido himself knew that 1 Tobiroppo was strong enough to capture her
And capturing her only grants the right to challenge an All Star
If you're a F6 that is able to capture Yamato, then you're already a All Stars level. That's why Kaido allows them to challenge a Commander.
So if anything, Yamato is at the very least a Commander level.
