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There are 8 days to fire festival and for the raid.

But what's left to be taken care of except law plot and transporting weapons to Udon and repairing ships and some minor sub plots like rescuing prisoners in flower captial?

I doubt these plots would require 8 days.

I dont know why but I feel Oda is about to pull some major shit soon. Also, in one piece plan never works.
 

Reborn

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Why not, though? We could finally see an all out battle between two Yonko - and wouldn't this be a good counterpart against that Aokiji vs Akainu fight in which Kaid extreme diffs Big Mom?
Its not about what we can see but what point does all out battle between Yonkous has to the plot?

There is none so far except nerfing Kaido extreme time which once again doesn't make sense.

However, both calling the battle draw and finding middle ground could give us rox pirates backstory and some genuine threat buildup.
 

Pantheos

Heavy Metal
I'll say it, Luffy and his alliance will take a huge L on that fire festival fight.
Absolutely disagree here. Maybe they get a huge L in a fight before the fire Festival, when they randomly meet each other, but at the fire Festival, there are waaaaay to much People included as that luffy can take a L. First of all, the whole prophecy is coming together for this day, so even when some People are not sure about the whole Thing, they are bonded with that date. And they will be there, the whole udon plot, the whole red scabbard stuff and even Mr. Fox and the sword are meant to come together at this date. When all These People, all this fates, come together for this one fight, then there arent any Options for Wano other than winning against Kaido. If they take a L there, all These People, means more or less complete Wano, will just die. Kaido will kill them right there and the whole prophecy-plot will be destoyed. Sure, from plot it is possible for the strawhats to escape, but not the thousands of People which are following there, not all the weapons, not the all Crews, not all minks... to much People would tdie there and all of them would only die for luffys L, luffy couldnt and wouldnt take that.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Absolutely disagree here. Maybe they get a huge L in a fight before the fire Festival, when they randomly meet each other, but at the fire Festival, there are waaaaay to much People included as that luffy can take a L. First of all, the whole prophecy is coming together for this day, so even when some People are not sure about the whole Thing, they are bonded with that date. And they will be there, the whole udon plot, the whole red scabbard stuff and even Mr. Fox and the sword are meant to come together at this date. When all These People, all this fates, come together for this one fight, then there arent any Options for Wano other than winning against Kaido. If they take a L there, all These People, means more or less complete Wano, will just die. Kaido will kill them right there and the whole prophecy-plot will be destoyed. Sure, from plot it is possible for the strawhats to escape, but not the thousands of People which are following there, not all the weapons, not the all Crews, not all minks... to much People would tdie there and all of them would only die for luffys L, luffy couldnt and wouldnt take that.
I felt emotions in that post. I kind of agree
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
BTW, do anyone of you guys have any speculation on why Lady toki send momo and co 20 years in future?

I mean it coincides with Luffy timeline and it can't be just coincidence since shutenmaru asked this question to which Inu replied 'we will find it in the end'.

Is it possible that rise of certain D that will inherit the will was already predicted?
 

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BTW, do anyone of you guys have any speculation on why Lady toki send momo and co 20 years in future?

I mean it coincides with Luffy timeline and it can't be just coincidence since shutenmaru asked this question to which Inu replied 'we will find it in the end'.

Is it possible that rise of certain D that will inherit the will was already predicted?
She saw zoro taking kaidos head :cheers:
 

Pantheos

Heavy Metal
BTW, do anyone of you guys have any speculation on why Lady toki send momo and co 20 years in future?

I mean it coincides with Luffy timeline and it can't be just coincidence since shutenmaru asked this question to which Inu replied 'we will find it in the end'.

Is it possible that rise of certain D that will inherit the will was already predicted?
Sure it could be possible, i mean like the woman from fishman Island (i forgot the Name right now), but it is also possible that this whole part is not really about luffy, like HA001 joking meant, it could be about zoro. It is possible she knew there is someone from the Ryuma bloodline but just born, to Young to beat Kaido and have send them into the future, just to search for him and for sure tehy recognized him right in that Moment they met, Zoro.
 

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BTW, do anyone of you guys have any speculation on why Lady toki send momo and co 20 years in future?

I mean it coincides with Luffy timeline and it can't be just coincidence since shutenmaru asked this question to which Inu replied 'we will find it in the end'.

Is it possible that rise of certain D that will inherit the will was already predicted?
maybe she had a vision of Zoro bringing back the lost sword Shisui to Wano? (and as the cherry on the cake he turns out to be a member of the SHP)
 
One thing with should speak out here. Did Zoro use haki since pre timeskip? I don't even say that he use himself haki but remember. Shusui probably became black after Ryuma train it so much, with mean she sword was 24h in CoA. Since then the sword id still black/have haki on the blade. With means Zoro probably was able to hurt Logiauser since TB pre Ts right? Shusui could became even far stronger if Zoro would use himself his CoA to make the blade even stronger... Lmao...
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Sure it could be possible, i mean like the woman from fishman Island (i forgot the Name right now), but it is also possible that this whole part is not really about luffy, like HA001 joking meant, it could be about zoro. It is possible she knew there is someone from the Ryuma bloodline but just born, to Young to beat Kaido and have send them into the future, just to search for him and for sure tehy recognized him right in that Moment they met, Zoro.
maybe she had a vision of Zoro bringing back the lost sword Shisui to Wano? (and as the cherry on the cake he turns out to be a member of the SHP)
But it doesn't tip up with D clan. Lady o toki was not from oden time so it's possible that she could be related to ancient Kingdom and future traveled to Wano. If this is the case then her vision would be more related to D.

Another thing in this regard is Roger himself(oden traveled with him) who ushered pirate era as he was not the D who can achieve the goal. This happened 23 years ago before Lady toki sent momo to future.

To me both these incidents are related.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
One thing with should speak out here. Did Zoro use haki since pre timeskip? I don't even say that he use himself haki but remember. Shusui probably became black after Ryuma train it so much, with mean she sword was 24h in CoA. Since then the sword id still black/have haki on the blade. With means Zoro probably was able to hurt Logiauser since TB pre Ts right? Shusui could became even far stronger if Zoro would use himself his CoA to make the blade even stronger... Lmao...
Dont think it works like that. He cut monet with shusui but she didnt die. Unless that was the swordsman cuts what he wants.

But it doesn't tip up with D clan. Lady o toki was not from oden time so it's possible that she could be related to ancient Kingdom and future traveled to Wano. If this is the case then her vision would be more related to D.

Another thing in this regard is Roger himself(oden traveled with him) who ushered pirate era as he was not the D who can achieve the goal. This happened 23 years ago before Lady toki sent momo to future.

To me both these incidents are related.
Whats the d got to do with it. She said 9 will come. There are 9 shs and only 8 scabbards so far its one of the two. It remains to be seen .
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Dont think it works like that. He cut monet with shusui but she didnt die. Unless that was the swordsman cuts what he wants.


Whats the d got to do with it. She said 9 will come. There are 9 shs and only 8 scabbards so far its one of the two. It remains to be seen .
It has to do with both time and inherited will.

It definitely has something to to do with SHs as even shutenmaru doubted why she sent them 20 years into future and not 5 or 10 or 15?

Scabbards could be reunited in any time frame and not necessarily in 20 years.

So it's more likely to do with SHs.

And, if that's the case then how she had vision of them?

Both Luffy and Zoro have role here. Luffy being inheriting the will of D clan and Zoro seem to inherit the will of shimotsuki clan and ryuma legacy. It just can't be coincidence. Oda always link such plots to bigger story.
 

Pantheos

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But it doesn't tip up with D clan. Lady o toki was not from oden time so it's possible that she could be related to ancient Kingdom and future traveled to Wano. If this is the case then her vision would be more related to D.

Another thing in this regard is Roger himself(oden traveled with him) who ushered pirate era as he was not the D who can achieve the goal. This happened 23 years ago before Lady toki sent momo to future.

To me both these incidents are related.
Sounds quite possible, but i am just no friend about this fate-stuff, i also disliked it with Naruto. If i take Naruto as example, it felt like everything he always achieved, was a fate. It doesnt happened because he worked for it, he made it through all Problems, through all enemies, it is just because it has to be. Like it was not his own achievement, you know? Thats why i am always a bit unfriended withthat fate-stuff.
 
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