General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Carrota Guco]

I thought Oda just gave Carrot some of the inspirations of Nami that fit her better but it seems this is more deliberate than I anticipated. That cover spread shows where Oda mind was at that she might be hinted at as a love interest. I thought that was just rabbit mink behavior.

I thought carrot just represented a mixture. The minks defeated jack, with sanji defeating queen, zoro king. So I speculate carrot was suppose to be a jack of all trades, master of none.

(Edit) Jack Rabbit

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Hyogoro also said Luffy looked just like a guardian deity when he saw G4 with the same godly cloud scarf that Yamato has on both her hybrid and full zoan forms

Guardian of what?

 

[Random_Kurozumi]

Guardian of what?

 

[Carrota Guco]

Yeah I saw this. I was wondering what luffy was suppose to be a guardian of, not that he was a guardian looking being.

 

[Random_Kurozumi]

Yeah I saw this. I was wondering what luffy was suppose to be a guardian of, not that he was a guardian looking being.

I would assume it's a guardian deity of Wano, since hyogoro wouldn't know anything bout the outside world, we've only seen the term being referenced as such and would make sense for a guardian deity to be the guardian of the country that believes in said deity.

 

[SILVERS000]

Alright that’s nice and all, but you still haven’t said how Wano would be safe if Yamato were to leave. Some people have said that Momo and the Scabbards could protect it, but there’s no way you actually believe that, right?

Again, the set up for Yamato staying is all there. I’m sorry if you want her to join, but you can’t ignore that

The same way they got along fir hundreds of years before the WILD CARD that is Kaido showed up

By training strong samurai that even keep the WG from attempting to invade

The Scabbards are a force, not strong enough to beat Kaido but atleast challenge him and Kaido is an anomaly that won't happen a 2nd time

Those same Scabbards worked and trained under Oden who Kaido himself admitted qouldve beaten him

But Oden himself is an anomaly aswell so we can't expect another Oden to suddenly appear

But that doesn't matter because we have Hyogoro and the Yakuza bosses who used to run Kuri, the most dangerous place in old wano that even the strong samurai couldn't beat
The same place that took Oden to get under control
And with Denjiro being stated as the strongest samurai in wano who along with the other scabbards know odens sword style and Hyogoro who can teach haki

The country won't have much trouble defending themselves again

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Alright that’s nice and all, but you still haven’t said how Wano would be safe if Yamato were to leave. Some people have said that Momo and the Scabbards could protect it, but there’s no way you actually believe that, right?

*Hot take*

If they can't protect their own terf without the reliance of others, they deserve to die. At that point Momo is a trash leader and deserves it.

This is their chance to prove themselves as an actual threat on their own.

 

[Logiko]

I’m mostly curious with this point. Can you show us “been drawn MORE THAN 40 TIME at the post” with the exact manga panels?

It should be easy for you, right?

Just go from the beginning to the end of whole cake and count just like I did. There are 40+ drawings of Carrot being at that post.

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Show me A SINGLE CHARACTER OF ANY PIRATE CREW that has the Lookout position just like Zoro is combatant, Sanji is a cook or Burgess is a helmsmann.

ONE.
SINGLE.
CHARACTER.

Use the SBS, the Vivre Cards, the Databooks if you want, but show it to me.

That's really your argumentation ? It's extremely fallacious, that argument doesn't even apply to some strawhats.
If you search for a look out, go to chapter 888, Daifuku has a look out character on his crew. It's a background character but it's enough.

 

[Carrota Guco]

I would assume it's a guardian deity of Wano, since hyogoro wouldn't know anything bout the outside world, we've only seen the term being referenced as such and would make sense for a guardian deity to be the guardian of the country that believes in said deity.

Can't assume that it is merely wano. All we know is that it is the form of a guardian deity but this could be very specific. Guardian of freedom, guardian of oppression, guardian of slave. I have evidence that the people of wano knew of joyboy. Joyboy is outside knowledge.

 

[Peenix]

The same way they got along fir hundreds of years before the WILD CARD that is Kaido showed up

By training strong samurai that even keep the WG from attempting to invade

The Scabbards are a force, not strong enough to beat Kaido but atleast challenge him and Kaido is an anomaly that won't happen a 2nd time

Those same Scabbards worked and trained under Oden who Kaido himself admitted qouldve beaten him

But Oden himself is an anomaly aswell so we can't expect another Oden to suddenly appear

But that doesn't matter because we have Hyogoro and the Yakuza bosses who used to run Kuri, the most dangerous place in old wano that even the strong samurai couldn't beat
The same place that took Oden to get under control
And with Denjiro being stated as the strongest samurai in wano who along with the other scabbards know odens sword style and Hyogoro who can teach haki

The country won't have much trouble defending themselves again

So let me get this straight: you truly, unironically believe that Momo + the Scabbards are capable of beating an admiral?
Give me a straight answer: yes or no

*Hot take*

If they can't protect their own terf without the reliance of others, they deserve to die. At that point Momo is a trash leader and deserves it.

How about no

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

How about no

Momo is a failure of a leader if he cannot defend his own people. That's why he had Yamato back off.

 

[ARMeni]

That's really your argumentation ? It's extremely fallacious, that argument doesn't even apply to some strawhats.
If you search for a look out, go to chapter 888, Daifuku has a look out character on his crew. It's a background character but it's enough.

Show me the panel and show me where it is explicitely stated that that fucking background character is an official lookout for the Big Mom Pirates.

Oh wait, you can't do that because HE'S A FUCKING BACKGROUND CHARACTER THAT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.

YOU CAN'T EVEN SHOW A CHARACTER WITH THE POSITION THAT CARROT SORELY NEEDS TO FILL WITHIN THE SHs BECAUSE IT'S A FUCKING WEAK ASS NARRATIVE AND IT. NEVER. MATTERED.

 

[Logiko]

Show me the panel and show me where it is explicitely stated that that fucking background character is an official lookout for the Big Mom Pirates.

If you don't know what a look out is and that you don't need a confirmation to see a look out, I can't help you. You are basing your argumentation on a fallacious reasonning.

HE'S A FUCKING BACKGROUND CHARACTER THAT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.

Every details matter in One Piece.

YOU CAN'T EVEN SHOW A CHARACTER WITH THE POSITION THAT CARROT SORELY NEEDS TO FILL WITHIN THE SHs BECAUSE IT'S A FUCKING WEAK ASS NARRATIVE AND IT. NEVER. MATTERED.

So your argument is basically "Carrot is not a look out because Oda never clearly stated that Look out are a thing with words"

That's completely fallacious.

And you don't need to scream.

 

[ARMeni]

If you don't know what a look out is and that you don't need a confirmation to see a look out, I can't help you. You are basing your argumentation on a fallacious reasonning.



Every details matter in One Piece.

So your argument is basically "Carrot is not a look out because Oda never clearly stated that Look out are a thing with words"

That's completely fallacious.

And you don't need to scream.

My simple argument is that Oda hasn't shown a single fucking character in 1054 chapters that is referred to as a lookout.

Not a single character.

None.

That's how important that position is for Oda.

And you can't refute it with anything because you literally have to resort to "well if you look at this background character!" because you don't want to admit that being a lookout ISN'T SOMETHING SPECIAL.

ODA HASN'T PLACED ANY FOCUS ON THAT ROLE.

AT ALL.

 

[Ravagerblade]

The mere fact that they go straight to Rape as an argument means they have no other argument to be made. This is scraping the bottom of the barrel, time and time again they've been proven wrong. Give it up.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

"Wano's guardian deity" is Momonosuke

 

[Logiko]

My simple argument is that Oda hasn't shown a single fucking character in 1054 chapters that is referred to as a lookout.

Not a single character.

None.

That's what I say, your arguement is fallacious. Oda SHOWED us look outs, multiple time in the story, but until you heard the word "llok out" you can't believe it. It's fallacious.

you don't want to admit that being a lookout ISN'T SOMETHING SPECIAL.

So that's your argumentation. A look out is nothing special ? Well I can't help you then, when Oda show the importance of the post during whole cake and you are still in denial.. that's quite the problem you have.

ODA HASN'T PLACED ANY FOCUS ON THAT ROLE.

Yes he has, in whole cake. reread the manga mate.

 

[ARMeni]

That's what I say, your arguement is fallacious. Oda SHOWED us look outs, multiple time in the story, but until you heard the word "llok out" you can't believe it. It's fallacious..

You can't call them lookouts (and learn how to spell the damn word jesus christ, I know you're French but have some decency), because the term hasn't been used for any of them.

It's not fallacious because I'm just using what the manga has to offer: no character has a designated lookout position.

And you will never be able to counter that fact, you sore loser.

 

[Logiko]

You can't call them lookouts (and learn how to spell the damn word jesus christ, I know you're French but have some decency), because the term hasn't been used for any of them.

You: "I see a lookout, they act as lookout, but they are not lookouts, why? .. because no naming".

Completely fallacious.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

That's what I say, your arguement is fallacious. Oda SHOWED us look outs, multiple time in the story, but until you heard the word "llok out" you can't believe it. It's fallacious.

We have a lookout, his name is Usopp.

 

[SILVERS000]

So let me get this straight: you truly, unironically believe that Momo + the Scabbards are capable of beating an admiral?
Give me a straight answer: yes or no

No, in this current situation either someone comes in and intervenes

Or

Greenbull is forced to pullback

You asked how does Wano protect itself without Yamato, I assumed you meant in the future

But as for this current situation Yamato is helping because she can and wants to if Luffy finds out Greenbull is here doing this he's going to help as well

It doesn't make either of them the sole protector of Wano, Yamato is not defined by her devil fruit, hell she only even ate it because she was hungry