Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1055 Spoilers Discussion

[Gol D. Roger]

It's impossible to tell where Mihawk and Shanks stand unless they fight again, his title comes from his reputation of being undefeated against the swordsmen he challenged but he specifically refuses to fight Shanks (inconclusive duels) after the loss of his arm, WSS isn't a video game achievement that gets updated whenever a stronger swordsman exists but the reputation of man known for his giant sword and his victorious streak.

They may just be reputations in the story but they're also titles Oda specifically assigned to these characters with a purpose. He gave WSC title to Kaido and made sure that he lives up to his hype. He called WB the WSM but still withholds his hype to this day. Why would Mihawk be any different? Shanks isn't just a random guy who happened to carry a sword around. He was raised by two high-class swordsmen i.e., Roger and Rayleigh, and he's also the biggest rival of Mihawk. Mihawk has little interest in non-swordsmen; why would he bother having a rivalry with Shanks if he isn't a swordsman? It makes no sense.

I can see why people feel Shanks shouldn't be weaker than Mihawk, but most reasons they use to dismiss Mihawk's claim as the WSS are invalid just like the Hakiman argument. They just use whatever dumb loophole they could come up with to say Mihawk isn't as strong as he is because they hate the guy.

Mihawk wouldn't be recognized as the WSM if there are other swordsmen who surpass his infamy. Shanks, in particular, isn't living under a rock. He's one of the most famous swordsmen in the world. And everyone their moms knows about Mihawk's rivalry with Shanks—It's literally a legend in OP world as noted by WB of all things. So if people call Mihawk the WSM, it could only mean one of two things i.e., either the world accepts that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks or Shanks is somehow not a swordsman. There is ample evidence suggesting Shanks is a swordsman while there are little to no implications of him not being one.

 

[Rarted]

Why did Jack even decide to go underwater to begin with when he knows he can't swim? My guess is that Kaido knew that the ancient weapon is located somewhere in Wano and ordered Jack to start searching in the water.

 

[Midnight Delight]

@AL sama @TheAncientCenturion and the other mods.

Can everyone who thinks that Yamato will somehow butt in into the M3 be stronger as one or 2 of them be marked by you? Ridiculous stuff as M4 or new M3 as well?

I have too many bookmarks for my postponed Tick Tock since Jinbe.

Strangely some of them are the same people.

You are my friend

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

You should be putting your stocks in them they aint scared of shanks or akainu, aka the guy who’s haki scared your avy and a guy who you massively wank

The same vivre that said Zoro was going to kill a oni? The same vivre that said vista swordsmenship is on par with mihawk

1. Stated he was on an oni killing mission

2. Stated his swordsmanship was able to keep mihawk busy

 

[Roo]

You are my friend

What about me

 

[Kishido]

You are my friend

*Checking your post history*

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

My new agenda is hating on One Piece and pissing people off.

 

[comrade]

Deathbed and still stronger than anyone alive.

No he isn't. He earned the WSM and WSP title in his prime time, so obviously it won't be stripped of him unless he officially loses it. Hence Whitebeard in Marineford saying he cannot be the strongest forever.

Shanks for example clashed with a version of oldbeard on meds, healthy enough to still use sky splitter Haoshoku. Unlike the MF version of Whitebeard, who couldn't use CoO, couldn't use CoC and was called a pathetic weakling by Crocodile, with Marco agreeing that Whitebeard's condition is worse than expected.

Admiral Stans should stop hyping Deathbed Whitebeard to indirectly make a case for admirals. Shanks or Kaido would've washed MF Whitebeard, who was so sick he collapsed from a heart attack within an hour or so. You think a man that can barely use Hakis and gets heart attacks from exerting himself too much is stronger than a Yonko at his prime?

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Trembling at being chased, thanks.

Fuji was stated to be a swordsman in the volume release. He is even based on a swordman from a movie.


Old irrelevant titles. MF WB gets folded by any Yonko quickly. Though he does extreme diff Mihawk and the other admirals there.

World's Strongest pirate is not a title.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Fuji was never stated to be a swordsmen

He is a swordsman:

Spoiler

 

[kenedyfake]

Will we ever see the end of the duel between Vista and Mihawk?

 

[GoldDiamond]

Trembling at being chased, thanks.

He can only be excited if the marines aren’t fodder.

Fuji was stated to be a swordsman in the volume release. He is even based on a swordman from a movie.

Wb was stated to be strongest pirate in the volume release yet you’re saying he’s weaker then the other yonkos. And Fuji was stated to be a blade user not a swordsmen

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Why did Jack even decide to go underwater to begin with when he knows he can't swim? My guess is that Kaido knew that the ancient weapon is located somewhere in Wano and ordered Jack to start searching in the water.

Kaido has connections with the Kurozumi elders, so he probably learned the secrets from them. He probably also knows Pluton is somewhere within Wano, which is why he chose Wano as his stronghold.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Why did Jack even decide to go underwater to begin with when he knows he can't swim? My guess is that Kaido knew that the ancient weapon is located somewhere in Wano and ordered Jack to start searching in the water.

Jack didn’t always have a devil fruit

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

No he isn't. He earned the WSM and WSP title in his prime time, so obviously it won't be stripped of him unless he officially loses it. Hence Whitebeard in Marineford saying he cannot be the strongest forever.

Shanks for example clashed with a version of oldbeard on meds, healthy enough to still use sky splitter Haoshoku. Unlike the MF version of Whitebeard, who couldn't use CoO, couldn't use CoC and was called a pathetic weakling by Crocodile, with Marco agreeing that Whitebeard's condition is worse than expected.

Admiral Stans should stop hyping Deathbed Whitebeard to indirectly make a case for admirals. Shanks or Kaido would've washed MF Whitebeard, who was so sick he collapsed from a heart attack within an hour or so. You think a man that can barely use Hakis and gets heart attacks from exerting himself too much is stronger than a Yonko at his prime?

Damn the amount of facts that you spit is incredible. Precise and clear

 

[kenedyfake]

"Red Hair pirates"
"you guys"

Notice how Aramaki never addressed only Shanks. He only gave up because Shanks can only fight Admirals with his whole crew helping him and ganging up on Aramaki.
Even Aramaki says he's not ready to fight them...yet. Which means he will get stronger than Shanks and his whole crew soon.

Yeah, they are endgame villains

greenbull is like kizaru when it comes to dealing with things, I'm enjoying him

 

[GoldDiamond]

He is a swordsman:

Spoiler

Oda specifically didn’t add kenshi in there , also WB was the WSP in the volume yet you don’t accept that.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

greenbull is like kizaru when it comes to dealing with things, I'm enjoying him

Kizaru clowns and meme

Greenbull gets clowned and screams

 

[GoldDiamond]

No he isn't. He earned the WSM and WSP title in his prime time, so obviously it won't be stripped of him unless he officially loses it. Hence Whitebeard in Marineford saying he cannot be the strongest forever.

Proof WSP is a title? Can’t be kaido was called it WSP, he can’t be the strongest but he was the strongest pirate

 

[Lor D. Coast]

The same vivre that said Zoro was going to kill a oni? The same vivre that said vista swordsmenship is on par with mihawk

Zoro said he's going to kill Kaido and Mihawk is the strongest swordsman not the world's most skilled swordsman, Vista or Cabaji can be just a good as him with a sword, Kaido isn't the world's best fighter, is he?