Current Events Sanji vs King or Zoro vs King? Pros and cons.
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Not that i think sanji vs king is impossible or anything,but how is king fighting on the ground limiting him? He just decides not to fly,it's not like it decreases king's strength or anything.King was fighting the scabbards on land,so that's maybe how he fights.
King can still decide to fly to avoid zoro's attacks and then come back to the ground.
Oda can also make zoro fly by using his own technique later on,its not like it is impossible to think of a technique for a swordsman in one piece to fly.
Also fire vs fire,isn't it a bit repetitive? Especially since King's fire is likely much stronger than any fire sanji can muster currently.
I would prefer fire vs water instead of some boring fire vs fire.
King can still decide to fly to avoid zoro's attacks and then come back to the ground.
Oda can also make zoro fly by using his own technique later on,its not like it is impossible to think of a technique for a swordsman in one piece to fly.
Also fire vs fire,isn't it a bit repetitive? Especially since King's fire is likely much stronger than any fire sanji can muster currently.
I would prefer fire vs water instead of some boring fire vs fire.
Something people are forgetting is that Zoro has shown the ability to evolve midfight inorder to obtain an ability that can allow him to defeat his opponents
In Alabasta, Zoro unlocked the ability to cut steel in order to defeat Mr.1
In Skypea, Zoro unlocked the ability to send flying slashes to defeat Braham who could fly with the impact dials
In El, Zoro unlocked Asura inorder to defeat Kaku
In TB, Zoro cut Ryuma and caused that wound to light on fire in order to defeat him
People forget that Zoro already overcame people who have flight and long range abilities back in skypea when he was facing of against Braham.
He could do nothing at the time vs Braham because Braham could fly away all the time and he had guns which boosted his range thus Zoro could not attack him despite being the superior fighter. However, Zoro developed flying slashes to spefically deal with flying fighters and long range fighters.
So when people say Zoro fighting King will limit King's areal abilities need to revisit the Zoro vs Braham fight. Braham was flying, dodging about fighting from long range. Braham areal abilities were not compromised, as a mater of fact they were maximized against Zoro who at the time could do nothing other than hop around trying to reach Braham
It would make no sense for Zoro to all of a sudden be unable to fight areal fighters when he overcame them in Skypea.
If am not mistaken, Zoro was the first to develop long range abilities and the ability to fight against flying target even before Luffy and Sanji. (With the exception of Usopp, Robin and Nami who have long range abilities)
King has the hell flames. Zoro will overcome King by developing abilities to cut fire .
@kurwa Read my post above. Zoro vs Braham. Braham was a long range flying opponent that Zoro overcame with flying slashes.
@Robin swan. True that. Also we already saw Zoro overcoming an areal long range fighter in Skypea. Braham was always running away and fighting Zoro from long range.
King's flying or any other areal fighter stopped being an issue for Zoro in skypea.
The issue will be king's fire
In Alabasta, Zoro unlocked the ability to cut steel in order to defeat Mr.1
In Skypea, Zoro unlocked the ability to send flying slashes to defeat Braham who could fly with the impact dials
In El, Zoro unlocked Asura inorder to defeat Kaku
In TB, Zoro cut Ryuma and caused that wound to light on fire in order to defeat him
People forget that Zoro already overcame people who have flight and long range abilities back in skypea when he was facing of against Braham.
He could do nothing at the time vs Braham because Braham could fly away all the time and he had guns which boosted his range thus Zoro could not attack him despite being the superior fighter. However, Zoro developed flying slashes to spefically deal with flying fighters and long range fighters.
So when people say Zoro fighting King will limit King's areal abilities need to revisit the Zoro vs Braham fight. Braham was flying, dodging about fighting from long range. Braham areal abilities were not compromised, as a mater of fact they were maximized against Zoro who at the time could do nothing other than hop around trying to reach Braham
It would make no sense for Zoro to all of a sudden be unable to fight areal fighters when he overcame them in Skypea.
If am not mistaken, Zoro was the first to develop long range abilities and the ability to fight against flying target even before Luffy and Sanji. (With the exception of Usopp, Robin and Nami who have long range abilities)
King has the hell flames. Zoro will overcome King by developing abilities to cut fire .
@kurwa Read my post above. Zoro vs Braham. Braham was a long range flying opponent that Zoro overcame with flying slashes.
@Robin swan. True that. Also we already saw Zoro overcoming an areal long range fighter in Skypea. Braham was always running away and fighting Zoro from long range.
King's flying or any other areal fighter stopped being an issue for Zoro in skypea.
The issue will be king's fire
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Sanji vs King would be terrible. We saw in WCI that the Raid Suits give elemental resistances. People talk about King fighting on the ground being a nerf, but Sanji having protection from King's flames would be a real nerf.
Zoro's not gonna get help against a swordsman. At best, Ashura will try to fight King, get stomped (ala Brook vs Ryuma), then Zoro would come in and actually fight King.
Zoro's not gonna get help against a swordsman. At best, Ashura will try to fight King, get stomped (ala Brook vs Ryuma), then Zoro would come in and actually fight King.
Except fighting on the ground wouldn't really nerf King. We've only seen him able to fight at close range. He's never shown the ability to fight at long range, which would make more use of his ability to fly. Sanji would have to face him in close quarters, since he lacks long range attacks too...so the fight would be the same as Zoro vs King, but Sanji would have an advantage against King's fire.
How often does Oda draw fights where the protagonists have such an advantage? Sanji vs Mr. 2 had Mr. 2 use his ability to transform into Nami for an advantage that Sanji had to overcome. Sanji vs Jabra had Jabra's Tekkai that Sanji had to overcome. Sanji vs Absolom had Absolom's invisibility that Sanji had to overcome.
How often does Oda draw fights where the protagonists have such an advantage? Sanji vs Mr. 2 had Mr. 2 use his ability to transform into Nami for an advantage that Sanji had to overcome. Sanji vs Jabra had Jabra's Tekkai that Sanji had to overcome. Sanji vs Absolom had Absolom's invisibility that Sanji had to overcome.
I don't care who fights who, just want to see them finaly getting some serious fights after all those years, but this is kinda funny.
King is the worst enemy for Sanji because he can ''appereantly'' fly better?
But this is not a con. for Zoro who can't fly at all?
And the Argument of King being immune to fire, can also be used for Sanji.
King is the worst enemy for Sanji because he can ''appereantly'' fly better?
But this is not a con. for Zoro who can't fly at all?
And the Argument of King being immune to fire, can also be used for Sanji.
Mr. 1 (lowest after Mr. 0)
Mr. 2 (second lowest after Mr. 0)
Ohm (0% survival rate)
Satori (10% survival rate)
Kaku (2200 doriki)
Jabra (2180 doriki)
King (highest valued card besides ace; bounty not yet revealed)
Queen (second highest valued card besides ace; bounty revealed)
Based on patterns, it's obvious who gets whom.
Mr. 2 (second lowest after Mr. 0)
Ohm (0% survival rate)
Satori (10% survival rate)
Kaku (2200 doriki)
Jabra (2180 doriki)
King (highest valued card besides ace; bounty not yet revealed)
Queen (second highest valued card besides ace; bounty revealed)
Based on patterns, it's obvious who gets whom.
Something people are forgetting is that Zoro has shown the ability to evolve midfight inorder to obtain an ability that can allow him to defeat his opponents
In Alabasta, Zoro unlocked the ability to cut steel in order to defeat Mr.1
In Skypea, Zoro unlocked the ability to send flying slashes to defeat Braham who could fly with the impact dials
In El, Zoro unlocked Asura inorder to defeat Kaku
In TB, Zoro cut Ryuma and caused that wound to light on fire in order to defeat him
People forget that Zoro already overcame people who have flight and long range abilities back in skypea when he was facing of against Braham.
He could do nothing at the time vs Braham because Braham could fly away all the time and he had guns which boosted his range thus Zoro could not attack him despite being the superior fighter. However, Zoro developed flying slashes to spefically deal with flying fighters and long range fighters.
So when people say Zoro fighting King will limit King's areal abilities need to revisit the Zoro vs Braham fight. Braham was flying, dodging about fighting from long range. Braham areal abilities were not compromised, as a mater of fact they were maximized against Zoro who at the time could do nothing other than hop around trying to reach Braham
It would make no sense for Zoro to all of a sudden be unable to fight areal fighters when he overcame them in Skypea.
If am not mistaken, Zoro was the first to develop long range abilities and the ability to fight against flying target even before Luffy and Sanji. (With the exception of Usopp, Robin and Nami who have long range abilities)
King has the hell flames. Zoro will overcome King by developing abilities to cut fire .
@kurwa Read my post above. Zoro vs Braham. Braham was a long range flying opponent that Zoro overcame with flying slashes.
@Robin swan. True that. Also we already saw Zoro overcoming an areal long range fighter in Skypea. Braham was always running away and fighting Zoro from long range.
King's flying or any other areal fighter stopped being an issue for Zoro in skypea.
The issue will be king's fire
In Alabasta, Zoro unlocked the ability to cut steel in order to defeat Mr.1
In Skypea, Zoro unlocked the ability to send flying slashes to defeat Braham who could fly with the impact dials
In El, Zoro unlocked Asura inorder to defeat Kaku
In TB, Zoro cut Ryuma and caused that wound to light on fire in order to defeat him
People forget that Zoro already overcame people who have flight and long range abilities back in skypea when he was facing of against Braham.
He could do nothing at the time vs Braham because Braham could fly away all the time and he had guns which boosted his range thus Zoro could not attack him despite being the superior fighter. However, Zoro developed flying slashes to spefically deal with flying fighters and long range fighters.
So when people say Zoro fighting King will limit King's areal abilities need to revisit the Zoro vs Braham fight. Braham was flying, dodging about fighting from long range. Braham areal abilities were not compromised, as a mater of fact they were maximized against Zoro who at the time could do nothing other than hop around trying to reach Braham
It would make no sense for Zoro to all of a sudden be unable to fight areal fighters when he overcame them in Skypea.
If am not mistaken, Zoro was the first to develop long range abilities and the ability to fight against flying target even before Luffy and Sanji. (With the exception of Usopp, Robin and Nami who have long range abilities)
King has the hell flames. Zoro will overcome King by developing abilities to cut fire .
@kurwa Read my post above. Zoro vs Braham. Braham was a long range flying opponent that Zoro overcame with flying slashes.
@Robin swan. True that. Also we already saw Zoro overcoming an areal long range fighter in Skypea. Braham was always running away and fighting Zoro from long range.
King's flying or any other areal fighter stopped being an issue for Zoro in skypea.
The issue will be king's fire
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