Spoiler Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1057 Spoilers Discussion

[Ballel]

They need to rewatch Fishman Island and learn with Queen Otohime

You need to reread wano to understand that the whole arc is poorly written.
You expected the ending to be better??

 

[dirtyLarry]

Can you honestly tell me that not a single one of the kurozumi was good. Just cause we see a few that are evil doesn't mean they all are.

Don't try to twist things now and weasel your way out.

Tell me one good Kurozumi Oda showed us.

You can't.

 

[Bassaluna]

We live in a reality where this:

Is more likely than this:

In other words, we live in hell

devon turning into oden or kaido would have been a cool way to have yamato confront herself.

 

[dirtyLarry]

Hiyori can do what she wants. The issue here is: Is the story telling us she is wrong,or flawed in doing this,or is the story telling us that she is right in saying so?

The story tells us neither of it.

It just shows Hiyori and her relatable feelings.

The rest is headcanon from some snowflake readers.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Which are the genuinely "good Kurozumis"?

Come on, tell me.

Kanjuros parents
They were literally just actors
What wrong they did lmao

 

[TheSufferingGob]

Hiyori basically supports the same idea as the WG. I like it, she will be a great future villain

I would love it if there was a rift in Wano cause by a Momo faction and Hiyori faction fighting over ideals. It would be cool if this had repressions.

 

[dirtyLarry]

Kanjuros parents
They were literally just actors
What wrong they did lmao

We know nothing about his parents.

Only glimps we ever heard about them came out of Orochi's mouth.

Good thing you choose to follow Orochi of all people though lmao.

 

[Indigo]

Kanjuros parents
They were literally just actors
What wrong they did lmao

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Insane it seems like so many people on this site actually would’ve sided with Tobirama and Danzos ideas of the Uchiha.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Spoiler: Oda plagiarizes himself

In addition to all of these parallels, both the Vivi farewell chapter and 1057 are volume enders. Way back ~20 years ago the chapter immediately following was called "Stowaway" and revealed Robin. You all know what this means: the next nakama is a character who debuted in the arc as an antagonist but was actually duplicitously working their own agenda all along. Yes, X Drake is in the crate.

You're definitely onto something for sure lol. But X-Drake, of all people, being in the crate is just....

 

[Dragon777]

Problem is kurozumi's like kanjiro and Orochi became evil due to the persecution which made them want revenge...

Exactly, even Oden was shocked by that:

Spoiler: FB

"Even a child can be a criminal, if he happens to have Kurozumi's name"

Even an innocet child, but hey: It seems that for someone this isn't a problem or an explanation of what happened afterwards.

 

[Indigo]

Insane it seems like so many people on this site actually would’ve sided with Tobirama and Danzos ideas of the Uchiha.

TAC 100% defends both btw

 

[TheSufferingGob]

Insane it seems like so many people on this site actually would’ve sided with Tobirama and Danzos ideas of the Uchiha.

They would probably say, well "Madara did bad things so we should wipe them out."

 

[Ballel]

Insane it seems like so many people on this site actually would’ve sided with Tobirama and Danzos ideas of the Uchiha.

forum: run by racists
dumb userbase: Oh no tHis bAdLy wRiTtEn FicTiOnal sTorY prOmoTEs DiScriMiNAtioN

 

[Bassaluna]

Spoiler: Oda plagiarizes himself

In addition to all of these parallels, both the Vivi farewell chapter and 1057 are volume enders. Way back ~20 years ago the chapter immediately following was called "Stowaway" and revealed Robin. You all know what this means: the next nakama is a character who debuted in the arc as an antagonist but was actually duplicitously working their own agenda all along. Yes, X Drake is in the crate.

page one is in the barrel with ulti

 

[TheSufferingGob]

Exactly, even Oden was shocked by that:

Spoiler: FB

"Even a child can be a criminal, if he happens to have Kurozumi's name"

Even an innocet child, but hey: It seems that for someone this isn't a problem or an explanation of what happened afterwards.

This makes me wish Orochi was an actual villain and not an add on in an arc with a suffocating amount of antagonist.

 

[Indigo]

forum: run by racists

?

 

[Starbound Beast D. Draig]

?

Don't think too much of it, nowdays everyone who disagress is a racist, nazi, fashist, homophobe, transphobe, ect.
It lost any meaning

 

[ShinichiMugi]

The story tells us neither of it.

It just shows Hiyori and her relatable feelings.

The rest is headcanon from some snowflake readers.

The people cheering her while she says this makes it think that the story doesnt show her opinion as wrong or excessive

 

[Indigo]

The people cheering her while she says this makes it think that the story doesnt show her opinion as wrong or excessive

Agreed

And the context of the rest of the chapter