Powers & Abilities How Sanji vs Queen and Zoro vs King play out?
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You mean destroying Sanji is trolling? Sure.
Why do you feel the need to bring up Zoro? Inferiority complex?
Yep, not like i advocated for Jinbe since Impel Down and always said Jinbe > Zoro and Sanji?
Why do you feel the need to bring up Zoro? Inferiority complex?
Yep, not like i advocated for Jinbe since Impel Down and always said Jinbe > Zoro and Sanji?
Still waiting for you to explain why PO never came back after fight and if your using Anime, then guess Zoro vs Batman is coming true then. Let's wait till we see next chapter instead headcannon trolling like before and Jimbei just getting spotlight as new member of crew. It happens each time a member joined, so Jimbei will know his true position down the line.
Destroying? More like trolling lol. Only see a scrub thinking of headcannon over canon on your end XD.
Sanji v Queen
I think Sanji is gonna be on a time-limit against Queen given the later most likely fights using biological warfare. Moreover, the beast pirates don't exactly play fair, so even whilst Sanji is fighting Queen he might have to worry about the well being of others in the vicinity. To add Queen is built like a tank so he won't go down easy to blunt attacks and to make tings worse he seems to have a very high rate of recovery and there's also the strength of the ancient zoans combined with the fact that Queen is all muscle..lolz so even with the RS, Sanji might not have the luxury of taking so many hits from Queen so I expect it to be an uphill climb for Sanji for most of the fight. That said though, I'd say Sanji is a very good matchup against Queen due to his speed, maneuverability and CoO prowess. Plus there's his invisibility as well. I think what will decide this fight will be Sanji's fire abilities. If Sanji's blunt attacks are not strong enough to put Queen down, he might have to burn through it kinda like he did against Jyabura's tekkai. Something I really think could happen with this fight is Sanji awakening his sleeping genes particularly since Queen uses biological warfare. I mean a virus tries to break down your body from the inside and the only immediate defense your body has against it is your immune system and if your immune system isn't strong enough to fight of the virus, there's risk of death so if Sanji's immune system struggles with Queen's viruses, that might be the catalyst that awakens his sleeping genes
. Note that Luffy's immune system is already pretty monstrous given he survived Magellan but even he couldn't resist Queen's mummy virus.
Zoro v King
Rather than CQC per say, I think Zoro is really gonna struggle with King coz of the later's mobility and also the fact that the later can use fire. Zoro has pretty devastating attacks with a very large AoE but with Kings mobility, he won't have an easy time landing them. Then there's Kings fire which will be burning up the environment as the fight progresses. Zoro isn't immune to fire so unless he can cut it like Kin'emon can, he's gonna struggle. The fire might also impeded Zoro's vision making it a lot more difficult to fend off King's attacks. That said, the fact that Kin'emon can do it makes me think that Zoro will also be learning how to do it this arc which I think will be one of the turning points of this fight so akin to the Mr1 fight where he had to learn how to cut steel. Also I reckon we'd be seeing Ashura again for the first time in a long time prolly even an improved version of it. Would be sick if as opposed to Zoro's arms multiplying, we get a manifestation of Ashura itself kinda like Susano.
I think Sanji is gonna be on a time-limit against Queen given the later most likely fights using biological warfare. Moreover, the beast pirates don't exactly play fair, so even whilst Sanji is fighting Queen he might have to worry about the well being of others in the vicinity. To add Queen is built like a tank so he won't go down easy to blunt attacks and to make tings worse he seems to have a very high rate of recovery and there's also the strength of the ancient zoans combined with the fact that Queen is all muscle..lolz so even with the RS, Sanji might not have the luxury of taking so many hits from Queen so I expect it to be an uphill climb for Sanji for most of the fight. That said though, I'd say Sanji is a very good matchup against Queen due to his speed, maneuverability and CoO prowess. Plus there's his invisibility as well. I think what will decide this fight will be Sanji's fire abilities. If Sanji's blunt attacks are not strong enough to put Queen down, he might have to burn through it kinda like he did against Jyabura's tekkai. Something I really think could happen with this fight is Sanji awakening his sleeping genes particularly since Queen uses biological warfare. I mean a virus tries to break down your body from the inside and the only immediate defense your body has against it is your immune system and if your immune system isn't strong enough to fight of the virus, there's risk of death so if Sanji's immune system struggles with Queen's viruses, that might be the catalyst that awakens his sleeping genes
. Note that Luffy's immune system is already pretty monstrous given he survived Magellan but even he couldn't resist Queen's mummy virus.Zoro v King
Rather than CQC per say, I think Zoro is really gonna struggle with King coz of the later's mobility and also the fact that the later can use fire. Zoro has pretty devastating attacks with a very large AoE but with Kings mobility, he won't have an easy time landing them. Then there's Kings fire which will be burning up the environment as the fight progresses. Zoro isn't immune to fire so unless he can cut it like Kin'emon can, he's gonna struggle. The fire might also impeded Zoro's vision making it a lot more difficult to fend off King's attacks. That said, the fact that Kin'emon can do it makes me think that Zoro will also be learning how to do it this arc which I think will be one of the turning points of this fight so akin to the Mr1 fight where he had to learn how to cut steel. Also I reckon we'd be seeing Ashura again for the first time in a long time prolly even an improved version of it. Would be sick if as opposed to Zoro's arms multiplying, we get a manifestation of Ashura itself kinda like Susano.
Kinda does as prior you had more Zoro avatar pictures than Jimbei ones, so your not fooling anyone. Nah, just trolling out of insecurity. Though Jimbei honestly hasn't beaten anyone credible in NW, so Idk what he has really done other taking out fodder cream guy. Credible foe he hasn't taken down at all. He in same position as Zoro, but I can respect Jimbei > Zoro anyday.
I don't think Sanji has any portrayal whatsoever that puts him in the same league as a yonko top 3. And I know you'll probably disagree with me on this vehemently but I fail to see what puts Zoro on YC1 tier. I feel like its
Zoro= YC3
Sanji=YC4
by wano's end it will be Zoro=YC2, Sanji=YC3; with Zoro and Sanji finally becoming YC1 and YC2 when they beat the SSG next arc in the war against the marines to save Sabo.
Zoro= YC3
Sanji=YC4
by wano's end it will be Zoro=YC2, Sanji=YC3; with Zoro and Sanji finally becoming YC1 and YC2 when they beat the SSG next arc in the war against the marines to save Sabo.
I don't have anything against him being YC1 or even higher, I just actually want to see it.
so far Oda has shown pretty clearly that he is above the average veteran. He beat Pica, who imo is probably the upper limit of veteran tier, and made quick work of killer. So yeah I could easily see him 1v1ing Jack, but there was a big difference between Katakuri and Cracker and an equally big(if not bigger) difference between current Luffy and katakuri.
if Oda wants to put Zoro on that tier, then he should do a better job of conveying it. But I really don't care about Zoro's powerlevel that much.
so far Oda has shown pretty clearly that he is above the average veteran. He beat Pica, who imo is probably the upper limit of veteran tier, and made quick work of killer. So yeah I could easily see him 1v1ing Jack, but there was a big difference between Katakuri and Cracker and an equally big(if not bigger) difference between current Luffy and katakuri.
if Oda wants to put Zoro on that tier, then he should do a better job of conveying it. But I really don't care about Zoro's powerlevel that much.
I think the biggest indication that this will be nothing like Enies lobby is the fact that Luffy will need help to beat kaido. Hence I fail to see what is so unreasonable with expecting that Zoro and Sanji, who have never beaten a single high tier in their life, get some help against King and Queen.