Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

[Monster Luffy]

And the bounty difference between Zoro and Jinbei is 1100 berries? Not 1 million berries?

Good chapter. Loved to see SH interactions and Cross guild information.

Luffy and his 9 commanders.

 

[SkySanji]

Why didn't Brannew just say "Mihawk is stronger than Saint Shanks"?

Because he isn't stronger, just more skilled

 

[Reborn]

Stephen Paul is just a translator, not Oda's spokesperson or confidant, he can't change the meaning of words.

Strength/Power = 力
Skill/Technique = 技

Nah

That's what he is trying to say

Oda uses it interchangeably and doesn't distinguish between strength and skill


Haki is a skill but it's also from where strength comes from

 

[Rootbeer]

ok . ......

So back to square one.. lf you don't want to take this seriously i can't help it..

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

How are you @Sanji D Goat
feels like a while

 

[ShadyOjiro]

I'm not contesting the authenticity of his title though.

If think there's a swordman stronger than him currently you would be contesting it though.

 

[Seven7]

Zoro Fans where is the Daz bones wank?
I expected better from you

 

[Shanal]

l guess Mihawk fans want to ignore that Saint Shanks hype role will be to reveal another tier to CoC..

No one's ignoring Saint Shanks' hype.

It's just underneath Mihawk's in every manner possible as far as overall level is concerned. Mihawk's hype was above Saint Shanks as per the title alone since East Blue- Saint Shanks is part of a group called Swordsmen, and Mihawk is the strongest within that group. If Saint Shanks could beat Mihawk, he'd be strongest.

 

[Strawhats Bible]

+ allegedly beat Big Mom as stated by her

That's not what's written.
In the article Morgan says Luffy "won" due to defeating two commanders, crashing the wedding and fleeing successfully.
That's why she asks what he has won when she reads it

Edit: Oh also successfully destroying her castle according to the his master plan lol

 

[spawn]

He doesn't make them 100 percent direct, but if you read the dialogue of Branew, he set Saint Shanks as the Gold standard.

The misconception is that "Buggy Rivals Saint Shanks"

Then he turns around and says "Mihawks Swordsmanship surpasses Saint Shanks swordsmanship."

One is thought to rival Saint Shanks, the other surpasses his swordsmanship. Not one Rivals Saint Shanks, and the other surpasses him.

Oda explicitly added the Swordsmanship bit in there, right after a direct strength comparison.

Buggy rivals Saint Shanks as a pirate captain.
Mihawk rivals him as an individual (a.k.a. as swordsmen).

 

[sanjikun]

I just realized Mihawk and Law are the same person.

 

[MonsterZoro]

I don’t care about power level anymore I only read for the character development

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

They called Buggy a rival to Saint Shanks and then gave Mihawk the bigger bounty when he's the subordinate. They're also comparing Saint Shanks swordsmanship to WSS, which means there is no dancing around the fact that Saint Shanks is a swordsman. Oda legit answered Saint Shanks vs. Mihawk for us in this chapter, and he made it as direct as possible.

Then there is no need to explicitly bring up Swordsmanship.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

It's "basic shounen".
He's gonna be stronger than Saint Shanks.

Do you REALLY believe Luffy won't grow stronger than Saint Shanks?
For real?

He will be stronger than Saint Shanks but Mihawk already is and Zoro will be too. You guys are acting like Saint Shanks is Luffy final opponent when 99% chance he isn’t.

The way you guys should see it is EoS Luffy > Imu > Zoro > Mihawk > Saint Shanks.

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

Honestly I love the Goth family, it’s so bizzarely wholesome

RIGHT???!! A Gift for u

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I don’t care about power level anymore I only read for the character development

Get a therapist

 

[Rootbeer]

No one's ignoring Saint Shanks' hype.

It's just underneath Mihawk's in every manner possible as far as overall level is concerned. Mihawk's hype was above Saint Shanks as per the title alone since East Blue- Saint Shanks is part of a group called Swordsmen, and Mihawk is the strongest within that group. If Saint Shanks could beat Mihawk, he'd be strongest.

l will need to wait until Mihawk is shown that he can not use that 3rd level of CoC then..

 

[bennbeckman]

Wellness check on Sanji and Saint Shank Stans

Wellness check on Zoro and Mihawk Haters

Here are all your Ls

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

力 meaning power/strength

Yes which is why the Viz translater says they use it interchangeable. Mihawk said his skill was above Zoro in chapter 51

 

[Ar1sE1998]

I don’t care about power level anymore I only read for the character development

Stay strong!