Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

[Geo]

you're insinuating that they used Observation haki to gauge Shanks and Mihawk and deduced that Mihawk is more superior in swordsmanship?

this whole statement is completely and utterly vague... why aren power levels a thing if thats how its supposed to be
there has never been a case where this CoO is used practically in a 1v1 fight to measure skill +strength on top of that

thats absolutely baseless.. and even in Rayleigh's case he was alluding to the haki of other monsters on the island and compared luffy's flagrant inferiority of it to them...

its an assumption that cannot be substantiated to increase its likelihood coz never in OnePiece has CoO been used to determine superiority in skill and physical strength in a specific art style


- its based on the assumption that marines know everything even skills and outcomes of matches based off of CoO which is a rough estimate and vague (when its mostly used to just indicate if opponents are strong or not) when the logical assumption would be Mihawk's and the sihchibukai's notoriety in general before them joining hand with Marines..especially when notoriety is why most Shichibukai were even offered the title to begin with

- you don't seem to question the material Marines have or are just blindly following statements that have no solid premise to substantiate them, and given that the story never indicates that Shanks lost duels against Mihawk yet somehow Shanks is supoosed to be blatantly inferior by just a flipin CoO.. wtf is this dood



thats yor interpretation... i don't take what marines say seriously especially when there are outdated basis and assumptions involved in it..

you switch from marines knowing who Mihawk fought in the decade to them sensing ones ability and skill against another top tier with CoO magically.. which is unprecedented and never was used to determine an outcome if a fight


ig get agendas but not disingenuousness


its flagrant how desperate yall are ofc thats your prerogative to bet on unlikely scenarios to suit agendas..

He's insinuating that Oda talks through these characters when it comes to such info dumps....hence they are factual. It is irrelevant how you think they got the information.

Where were you when similar information was displayed during the bounties of WB, Roger, Kaido and Big Mom? You think those are false too?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Ever wondered how Kidd lost his arm to Shanks? Must have used fist to sever it

Kid never fought shanks. Only his pirates

 

[Shisui]

yama who
jinbei surpass who?

Hawkeye and the red hair Sammy the Bull

 

[Kurozumi Giggio]

It applies to everyone called SWORDSMAN. There is literally no other definition than the real world one. Don't act like One Piece laid out a special new definition.

if you apply the real world definition THEN GUESS WHAT? NOBODY IS A SWORDSMAN
Haki : "the ability to cut what you want to cut and to not cut what you don't want to cut"
is this REAL Kendo? NO , if you slash something you cut it period
Growing 3 heads with Ashura is Kendo? NO
Using FLYING SLASHES is Kendo? NO
are you brain dead?

 

[Twin Milf]

I’m still in awe of all the hype Croc is getting

I'm an awe of all the dialogue Croc got this chapter after a decade of panels of him sitting down reading newspapers lol

 

[Sir Yasheen]

@TheAncientCenturion

Can you change my name to Sir Yasheen in honor of the dawn of the best part of current One Piece Crocodile and Cross Guild?

 

[ShadyOjiro]

you're insinuating that they used Observation haki to gauge Shanks and Mihawk and deduced that Mihawk is more superior in swordsmanship?

this whole statement is completely and utterly vague... why aren power levels a thing if thats how its supposed to be
there has never been a case where this CoO is used practically in a 1v1 fight to measure skill +strength on top of that

thats absolutely baseless.. and even in Rayleigh's case he was alluding to the haki of other monsters on the island and compared luffy's flagrant inferiority of it to them...

its an assumption that cannot be substantiated to increase its likelihood coz never in OnePiece has CoO been used to determine superiority in skill and physical strength in a specific art style


- its based on the assumption that marines know everything even skills and outcomes of matches based off of CoO which is a rough estimate and vague (when its mostly used to just indicate if opponents are strong or not) when the logical assumption would be Mihawk's and the sihchibukai's notoriety in general before them joining hand with Marines..especially when notoriety is why most Shichibukai were even offered the title to begin with

- you don't seem to question the material Marines have or are just blindly following statements that have no solid premise to substantiate them, and given that the story never indicates that Shanks lost duels against Mihawk yet somehow Shanks is supoosed to be blatantly inferior by just a flipin CoO.. wtf is this dood



thats yor interpretation... i don't take what marines say seriously especially when there are outdated basis and assumptions involved in it..

you switch from marines knowing who Mihawk fought in the decade to them sensing ones ability and skill against another top tier with CoO magically.. which is unprecedented and never was used to determine an outcome if a fight


ig get agendas but not disingenuousness


its flagrant how desperate yall are ofc thats your prerogative to bet on unlikely scenarios to suit agendas..

If you don't take Marines seriously what are you even doing here in this chapter?
All OP story had Marines dictating bounties and status of pirates and such will not change.
Accepting some but getting frisky about other just shows agenda tbh.


Revealing you are kinda of a masochist or something?

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I'm an awe of all the dialogue Croc got this chapters after a decade of panels of him sitting down reading newspapers lol

That was his last dialogue in the manga

Chapter 593, which released in july 2010 according to the wikia.
12 years IRL time.

 

[Shisui]

According to the volumes kidds official role is fighter

He is the fighter and the first mate. Two roles just like Zoro

 

[The White Crane]

Oda is adding flame to all fandoms, first he hyped revolutionary army using fujitora then he hyped admiral aramaki using YCs then yonkou shanks using aramaki and now mihawk using him as a hypetool.

Its not too late to see through him. Next mihawk would be used as hypetool for someone else.

Yeah, EoS Zoro.

 

[Killer#777]

My boy Vice Admiral Stainless got treated like absolute fodder

No surprise especially who he was facing.

 

[Twin Milf]

That was his last dialogue in the manga

Chapter 593, which released in july 2010 according to the wikia.
12 years IRL time0.

He became the King of Crossword in these 10 years

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Luffy can free himself of the cage anytime he wants with aCOA
he likes it rough

Stockholm syndrome

 

[DiscoZoro20]

if you apply the real world definition THEN GUESS WHAT? NOBODY IS A SWORDSMAN
Haki : "the ability to cut what you want to cut and to not cut what you don't want to cut"
is this REAL Kendo? NO , if you slash something you cut it period
Growing 3 heads with Ashura is Kendo? NO
Using FLYING SLASHES is Kendo? NO
are you brain dead?

Who said any of that? The braindead one is clearly you. You deny official sources for fiction and constantly twist what I said by putting words in my mouth just to elevate a cartoon character in your rankings. It can't get any more braindead.

 

[roronoa_fan]

How the legends fought

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

We had to sit through an entire decade of getting one panel of Croc reading newspapers every 200 chapters but that was worth it

 

[Sir Yasheen]

We had to sit through an entire decade of getting one panel of Croc reading newspapers every 200 chapters but that was worth it

If this was the payoff, god yes.

 

[The White Crane]

Brannew says that Mihawk swordsmanship is superior to that of Shanks. Skills is just the way Redon translated it, because normal people don't make the difference.

Kickboxing Shanks agenda. I still don't know what it is, but it's funny as hell.

 

[DJOMOLO]

Fuck crocodile and fuck mihawk. WHEN IS KAIDO COMING BACK?!?!?!

 

[Kurozumi Giggio]

Who said any of that? The braindead one is clearly you. You deny official sources for fiction and constantly twist what I said by putting words in my mouth just to elevate a cartoon character in your rankings. It can't get any more braindead.

ok so you admit that basically NOBODY in One Piece is a swordsman