Powers & Abilities Killer uses poisonous blades(Zoro vs Killer analysis)

[ImmaIvanoM]

Oh, when the anime finally shows that Killer indeed was the reason for Zoro fainting, it will be so hilarious

So the manga will be wrong then?

Like if something that happens in the anime is what you want to happen even if it's not in the manga, we should start taking what you want in the anime as the correct thing?

Is that how it works?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Yasu bought to him some sushi the day befor

Nope. That scene happened on the first day of Wano.

The shit with killer was on the fourth day
We do not see Zoro eat anything for those four days.

Then he asks for food before fighting Killer.

Then Oda puts a hunger sfx in the panel of h passing out.

Those are the facts.

Start from there with your logic

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

He just fainted for the wound because Oda needed that,

So Oda adds Zoro asking for food before even fighting and then the sfx of hunger in the panel of him passing out because? What? Was that all filler?

 

[nik87]

@ImmaIvanoM They know it all but they play dumb on purpose, dont take them too seriously.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

So why did Oda have Zoro asking for food before the fight started and then put the hunger SFX in literally the panel of Zoro passing out

Like what do you think Oda is trying tell us when he puts these two things in the exact panel together with each other

Also I've given blood. It doesn't make you hungry. It just makes you generally weak.

Yes and you need food to regenerate your energy.
Of course he fainted because of the blood loss and the hunger. That seems logic.
He wasn't on the verge of fainting at all before the fight.

I don't understand this need to say he fainted 100% because of hunger, that's worse to tbh.
I'd rather have him fainting because of loss blood and hunger than just hunger.

 

[Patryipe]

No four days of hunger is what made Zoro pass out. He literally asks for food right before the figting starts and then there's this

Yeah, because kid Sanji can cope with hunger better than adult Zoro obviously.

This is like Luffy "bleeding to death" after his fight with Hodi because plot required the Jinbe blood transfusion. Meanwhile after Katakuri tore his stomach open he had no problem going at him for another round of G4.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Yes and you need food to regenerate your energy.
Of course he fainted because of the blood loss and the hunger. That seems logic.
He wasn't on the verge of fainting at all before the fight.

I don't understand this need to say he fainted 100% because of hunger, that's worse to tbh.
I'd rather have him fainting because of loss blood and hunger than just hunger.

Zoro is literally introduced in chapter 2 and then in chapter 4 he passes out from hunger after beating Captain Morgan

So I guess you didn't like that either? That Zoro is a relatively normal human being?

And I will repeat this. Blood loss DOES NOT MAKE YOU HUNGRY... Food replenishes blood, but thats not the same as You literally feeling hunger like five fuckin seconds after losing blood. At best it makes you weak and lethargic

Please. If you have actually five blood you know this and and re just asndrerguig for the sake and if haven't given blood then you are just making shit up.

And once again, you fail to tell us why Oda puts hunger sfx in the panel of Zoro passing out when he doesn't intend for the readers to think Zoro is passing out from hunger

 

[Jackteo]

So Oda adds Zoro asking for food before even fighting and then the sfx of hunger in the panel of him passing out because? What? Was that all filler?

Because you Zoro fans could use it as an argument to defend your boy. Even Oda knows it doesn't make any sense, but he is also aware you wouldn't care

Nope. That scene happened on the first day of Wano.

It happened the same day the Tobi Roppo arrived at the Flower Capital.

10 days before the final battle: Yasu bought some sushi for Zoro and he drunk clean water
Night: Sanji vs P1, Komurasaki death
9 days before the final battle: the bathhouse scene, Zoro vs Kamazou

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Yeah, because kid Sanji can cope with hunger better than adult Zoro obviously.

This is like Luffy "bleeding to death" after his fight with Hodi because plot required the Jinbe blood transfusion. Meanwhile after Katakuri tore his stomach open he had no problem going at him for another round of G4.

So are you saying the panel I just posted isn't true even though it's the official? Do you want the Japanese raws to clarify? Here they are

Or are you saying Oda is the one who made a mistake even though Zoro in chapter 4 also passes out from hunger after defeating an enemy same as right now.

Where is you problem here? Is it the translation or Oda or Zoro himself is no longer a consistent character to you now even though this same thing has happened before?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

It happened the same day the Tobi Roppo arrived at the Flower Capital

Jesus christ. It happened the same day Luffy got beaten by kaido. The same day Luffy arrived.

For fucks sake

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Zoro is literally introduced in chapter 2 and then in chapter 4 he passes out from hunger after beating Captain Morgan

So I guess you didn't like that either? That Zoro is a relatively normal human being?

And I will repeat this. Blood loss DOES NOT MAKE YOU HUNGRY... Food replenishes blood, but thats not the same as You literally feeling hunger like five fuckin seconds after losing blood. At best it makes you weak and lethargic

Please. If you have actually five blood you know this and and re just asndrerguig for the sake and if haven't given blood then you are just making shit up.

And once again, you fail to tell us why Oda puts hunger sfx in the panel of Zoro passing out when he doesn't intend for the readers to think Zoro is passing out from hunger

That was after days without eating properly except for that shitty food that brat brought him.
And he fainted because of the effort he produced while hungry and on empty stomach.
I didn't fail, I said it was hunger and blood loss.

Come on man. What do you think would have happen if killer wasn't there.

Zoro fights gyukamaru, defeats him, recuperates his sword, walks 15 meters, faints and loses his swords again because gyukamaru can take it while he sleeps because of hunger. Really?

 

[Jackteo]

Jesus christ. It happened the same day Luffy got beaten by kaido. The same day Luffy arrived.

For fucks sake

No it didn't

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

@Kejon @HA001 Please refrain from bringing up events that doesn't directly tie into the thread. We have zero reason to be discussing Hawkins here. I'm certain there's a thread for that match up already, if you truly want to discuss it.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Zoro is literally introduced in chapter 2 and then in chapter 4 he passes out from hunger after beating Captain Morgan

So I guess you didn't like that either? That Zoro is a relatively normal human being?

And I will repeat this. Blood loss DOES NOT MAKE YOU HUNGRY... Food replenishes blood, but thats not the same as You literally feeling hunger like five fuckin seconds after losing blood. At best it makes you weak and lethargic

Please. If you have actually five blood you know this and and re just asndrerguig for the sake and if haven't given blood then you are just making shit up.

And once again, you fail to tell us why Oda puts hunger sfx in the panel of Zoro passing out when he doesn't intend for the readers to think Zoro is passing out from hunger

And I didn't say that it makes you hungry to give blood but I have lost a good amount of blood twice in my life, and I needed food to replenish because it made me feel dizzy, weaker. That's what happened here with zoro, his empty stomach was the nail on the coffin.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

No it didn't

Did it not happen in Act 1? The same Act 1 that all took place on the same day and ended with Luffy and Kid meeting in prison?

Then act 2 begins with a skip of three days later with Luffy working in the prison having already healed from Kaido clobbering him?

Anha?

 

[nik87]

No it didn't

Several days have passed since Zoro ate before Killer fight, look it up before claiming otherwise.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

And I didn't say that it makes you hungry to give blood but I have lost a good amount of blood twice in my life, and I needed food to replenish because it made me feel dizzy, weaker. That's what happened here with zoro, his empty stomach was the nail on the coffin.

Zoro's stomach was empty BEFORE THE FIGHT STARTED. That's why he risks his life for Hiyori and just asks for food in return. Because he was already starving

Then he spends energy beating killer and Oda puts the sfx right there to tell us why Zoro is passing out

I don't need to follow you head canon here dude. You started by making a false claim about something obvious in real life and then you start saying Oda himself is following your false claim

No. I'm taking what is in the manga and that's it.

 

[Jackteo]

Several days have passed since Zoro ate before Killer fight, look it up before claiming otherwise.

I had. It happened in act 2.
Unless Zoro going to Ebisu was thanking Yasu for the the food he bought him days before.
And even if that was the case Zoro kept gambling and winning so he had more than enough money to buy whatever he wants to eat.
And if the Kyoshiro family interrupted him, he could steal some food from the inn if he was hungry.
Yasu even said he will never miss any meal if he sticks up with Zoro

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Zoro's stomach was empty BEFORE THE FIGHT STARTED. That's why he risks his life for Hiyori and just asks for food in return. Because he was already starving

Then he spends energy beating killer and Oda puts the sfx right there to tell us why Zoro is passing out

I don't need to follow you head canon here dude. You started by making a false claim about something obvious in real life and then you start saying Oda himself is following your false claim

No. I'm taking what is in the manga and that's it.

Can you please stop putting words in my mouth? I never said losing blood makes you hungry, I said you need to eat something to rebuild energy.

So you're telling me that when you're on a empty stomach, whether you lose blood or not and whether you make a big effort or not doesn't make a difference?
You're just being stubborn here.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Don't embarrass yourselves Z fans, don't act like the scythe right through his shoulder had nothing to do with Zoro fainting.