Powers & Abilities Swordsman and haki user two different things.
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lol, you do realize that it isn't exactly easy to detect sarcasm through a screen right?
And no, am not that insecure (about what, I have no idea) when Zoro stans on WG have said more absurd things about Zoro.
Can Zoro do something like bajrang gun?
So you believe Buggy > Zoro in strength?
And no, am not that insecure (about what, I have no idea) when Zoro stans on WG have said more absurd things about Zoro.
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Can Zoro do something like bajrang gun?
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So you believe Buggy > Zoro in strength?
lmao what are you trying to do here the manga says (chap 320) aokiji says: the amount of bounty does not just reflect strength of the criminal, there's also the danger level someone poses to the government.So now look at buggy this chapter danger level to wg= mastermind behind impel down,former rival of red hair,cross guilds leader.Then for his strength which mind you is very low but he managed to get crocodile and mihawk to work under him per brannew words but they do not understand whats really gong they see buggy as a threat
Being a swordsman and haki user are two different things, that of course can mix up.
Every swordsman use haki and every haki user can use a sword.
The difference? You have to see which Is the auxiliary things, the sword or the haki.
Zoro Is a swordsman and an haki user, and he uses his haki to power-up and boost up his swordsmaship.
Just like Oden, which sword style was known as the strongest.
<< What he himself called the (strongest) sword style was not a boast, it was the only one that deeply wounded Kaido! >>
VIVRECARD.
While others, like Roger, use mainly haki and their sword as a support.
As you can see even though Oden had the strongest sword style, Roger had the upper hand and could win against him.
Now, Shanks.
Shanks Is known as a top class swordsman, rivaling Mihawk in this regard, with Mihawk having the upper hand an swordsmaship surpassing that of Red Hair.
The question Is: Is Shanks a swordsman? Yup, a Skilled top class swordsman #2 currently and..
An haki user.
Yup, the two things can converge but are threat as two separate things.
But how can you know this? By what's hyped about a character, what Is emphasized about the character? His swordsmaship or his haki?
Oden's swordsmaship Is what was hyped about him, being considered the strongest style.
Roger's haki Is what was hyped about him, same goes for Shanks, even though he's a top class swordsman what Is hyped about him Is always haki, which Is his forte.
Just like Roger:
While Mihawk, Just like Oden Is emphasized for his swordsmaship.
Shanks has inferior swordsmaship to Mihawk, but Shanks's forte Is his haki since It Is the main thing emphasized about him even though swordsmaship comes as the 2nd thing emphasized about him being top class level behind Mihawk.
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Not even a proof imo but interesting:
If you want you can even use the video game Pirate Warriors 4 which explains my point even though It's not Canon, but that's the idea.
It says that Shanks Is a Skilled swordsman and an haki user.
And It says that Mihawk stands above all swordsmen. (Have to find a good quality images, I'll edit later on)
Again Mihawk stands above as swordsman and swordsmaship wise, but Shanks even though he's considered a top and Skilled swordsman he's considered a swordsman AND an haki user and what Is emphasized about him, his forte, Is his haki.
Every swordsman use haki and every haki user can use a sword.
The difference? You have to see which Is the auxiliary things, the sword or the haki.
Zoro Is a swordsman and an haki user, and he uses his haki to power-up and boost up his swordsmaship.
Just like Oden, which sword style was known as the strongest.
<< What he himself called the (strongest) sword style was not a boast, it was the only one that deeply wounded Kaido! >>
VIVRECARD.
While others, like Roger, use mainly haki and their sword as a support.
As you can see even though Oden had the strongest sword style, Roger had the upper hand and could win against him.
Now, Shanks.
Shanks Is known as a top class swordsman, rivaling Mihawk in this regard, with Mihawk having the upper hand an swordsmaship surpassing that of Red Hair.
The question Is: Is Shanks a swordsman? Yup, a Skilled top class swordsman #2 currently and..
An haki user.
Yup, the two things can converge but are threat as two separate things.
But how can you know this? By what's hyped about a character, what Is emphasized about the character? His swordsmaship or his haki?
Oden's swordsmaship Is what was hyped about him, being considered the strongest style.
Roger's haki Is what was hyped about him, same goes for Shanks, even though he's a top class swordsman what Is hyped about him Is always haki, which Is his forte.
Just like Roger:
While Mihawk, Just like Oden Is emphasized for his swordsmaship.
Shanks has inferior swordsmaship to Mihawk, but Shanks's forte Is his haki since It Is the main thing emphasized about him even though swordsmaship comes as the 2nd thing emphasized about him being top class level behind Mihawk.
Edit:
Not even a proof imo but interesting:
If you want you can even use the video game Pirate Warriors 4 which explains my point even though It's not Canon, but that's the idea.
It says that Shanks Is a Skilled swordsman and an haki user.
And It says that Mihawk stands above all swordsmen. (Have to find a good quality images, I'll edit later on)
Again Mihawk stands above as swordsman and swordsmaship wise, but Shanks even though he's considered a top and Skilled swordsman he's considered a swordsman AND an haki user and what Is emphasized about him, his forte, Is his haki.
Shanks being slightly weaker than Mihawk doesn't damage Story in any way, just accept it and move on, this is becoming humiliating and embarrassing tbh
If Shanks was Stronger then he would be Zoro Final Opponent instead, is that how you believe this Story gonna end?
No one got a problem with All Blue, Pluton, Void Century, One Piece, All Healing Cure ... etc but when it comes to Zoro's Dream or Power Level related Dream, you suddenly have a problem with it and must desperately prove Mihawk is weaker than around five Swordsman
Just drop it
If Shanks was Stronger then he would be Zoro Final Opponent instead, is that how you believe this Story gonna end?
No one got a problem with All Blue, Pluton, Void Century, One Piece, All Healing Cure ... etc but when it comes to Zoro's Dream or Power Level related Dream, you suddenly have a problem with it and must desperately prove Mihawk is weaker than around five Swordsman
Just drop it
Let's see the haki lunatics respond to this thread
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/zoro-vs-shanks-no-sword.31050/
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/zoro-vs-shanks-no-sword.31050/
no this is dumb lmao what are you trying to do here the manga says (chap 320) aokiji says: the amount of bounty does not just reflect strength of the criminal, there's also the danger level someone poses to the government.So now look at buggy this chapter danger level to wg= mastermind behind impel down,former rival of red hair,cross guilds leader.Then for his strength which mind you is very low but he managed to get crocodile and mihawk to work under him per brannew words but they do not understand whats really gong they see buggy as a threat
lmao what are you trying to do here the manga says (chap 320) aokiji says: the amount of bounty does not just reflect strength of the criminal, there's also the danger level someone poses to the government.So now look at buggy this chapter danger level to wg= mastermind behind impel down,former rival of red hair,cross guilds leader.Then for his strength which mind you is very low but he managed to get crocodile and mihawk to work under him per brannew words but they do not understand whats really gong they see buggy as a threat
Haki isn't a separate fighting style, it supplements whatever fighting style you have. And the story made clear that Haki is essential for swordsmanship.
- Hyo said that with Ryuo, the swordsman becomes one with the blade. Haki allows him to "cut everything and nothing, however he desires"
- Mihawk, when teaching Zoro "the way of the sword", teaching him Haki and saying that you have to harden your blade to a point it gets no scratch, as every scratch on a swordsman's blade would be a shame
- we saw how infusing slashes with Haoshoku gives them enormous potency. Oden clapped Kaido out of the sky with one blow, leaving a deep scar and a life long trauma.
Roger can send out blasts without cutting, so what? A Haoshoku infused sword slash is much more devastating anyways, and it's not like a swordsman cannot use non-cutting attacks, since it was said that a swordmaster is characterized by deciding what he wants and wants not to cut, as demonstrated by Zoro in Alabasta, who did not cut through the leaves b swinging his sword, but following cut a stone in two. A master swordsman can just as much as Roger send out non-cutting blasts.
And then again, versatility doesn't matter when that versatility is much beneath swordsmanship.
- Hyo said that with Ryuo, the swordsman becomes one with the blade. Haki allows him to "cut everything and nothing, however he desires"
- Mihawk, when teaching Zoro "the way of the sword", teaching him Haki and saying that you have to harden your blade to a point it gets no scratch, as every scratch on a swordsman's blade would be a shame
- we saw how infusing slashes with Haoshoku gives them enormous potency. Oden clapped Kaido out of the sky with one blow, leaving a deep scar and a life long trauma.
Roger can send out blasts without cutting, so what? A Haoshoku infused sword slash is much more devastating anyways, and it's not like a swordsman cannot use non-cutting attacks, since it was said that a swordmaster is characterized by deciding what he wants and wants not to cut, as demonstrated by Zoro in Alabasta, who did not cut through the leaves b swinging his sword, but following cut a stone in two. A master swordsman can just as much as Roger send out non-cutting blasts.
And then again, versatility doesn't matter when that versatility is much beneath swordsmanship.
Vista and Mihawk are also haki user, I am not saying that they are not. But they're both mainly know for swordsmaship not for haki.
Vista Is known for his swordsmaship and Mihawk has Heard of him for that.
Shanks Is known mainly for haki, no One every put Shanks's swordsmaship above his Haki when It come to talk about him/hype him.
Why so? If being a swordsman has already haki incorpored why didn't Jozu said "his swordsmaship Is insane as always"
Vista Is known for his swordsmaship and Mihawk has Heard of him for that.
Shanks Is known mainly for haki, no One every put Shanks's swordsmaship above his Haki when It come to talk about him/hype him.
Why so? If being a swordsman has already haki incorpored why didn't Jozu said "his swordsmaship Is insane as always"