Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

But Mihawk is still the STRONGEST. So the power of a swordsman is not only skills, but also other aspects? So you're saying that Mihawk is the STRONGEST of all fencers due to not only technique? You are burying yourself with every second😂😂😂
My opinion is:

Sword skills are not overall strength

Great Sword master > sword master when it comes to sword skill/swordsmanship not overall

Zoro wants to be strongest Great Sword master (sandman confirmed it), which means Shanks isn't included because he isn't one.
 
I can't read japanese so the way I see it is this:

1- If WSS is a true translation then Mihawk is the strongest swordsman regardless of your skill lvl (Kengo, Dai Kengo, etc...). Meaning he's stronger than Shanks and all other swordsmen like Vista, Shiryu, etc...

2- If WGS is a true translation then Mihawk wields the best swordsmanship in the world. It's not a title related to strength. He could be the weakest swordsman ever as far as we know but still has the best swordsmanship in the world.

3- If WSDK(World strongest Dai Kego) is the true translation then Mihawk is only the strongest amongst the Great Swordsmasters/Dai Kengos in the world.

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still Zoro's dream is to be the strongest Great swordmaster, Shanks isn't even included since he isn't one.
Mihawk is both the great master swordsman and the world's strongest, so Zoro'd achieve both by beating Mihawk.

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So congrats, the only argument about "mihawk's title must be true because related to zoro's dream" was destroyed, because shanks isn't included in Great swordmaster category so he can be stronger overall than Mihawk and this wouldn't make Zoro's dreame fake.
The thing about Zoro's dream is, that he needs to beat Mihawk in a fight to achieve his dream. So for Zoro being the greatest swordmaster means beating Mihawk, the man known as the strongest swordsman in the world. So everything about him needs to be legit for Zoro's dream to be legit too. And you must be living under the rock if you think this is the only argument the Mihawk side has. It's one of many arguments used to get the point across because some people are too blinded by hate to see the truth. So once again, congrats on proving nothing.
 
But Mihawk is still the STRONGEST. So the power of a swordsman is not only skills, but also other aspects? So you're saying that Mihawk is the STRONGEST of all fencers due to not only technique? You are burying yourself with every second😂😂😂
Vista is a stronger swordsman than Shanks, let that sink in..
 
He's basically saying Ushimaru's skill is better than zoro even if Zoro is stronger than Ushimaru
But I already acknowledged this in my first and following posts.
Final enemy being WG, Gorosei having a sword and title like "strongest" being immedietly debunked as a common pattern in mangas.

Whitebeard never fought to the death against Roger while Garp did several times and marines even thought Garp soloed Rocks which proves that according to fodders in one piece Garp was above Whitebeard (for reputation) but they still gave the title to WB (who's actually stronger between Garp and Whitebeard is debatable).

King telling Kaido to keep being the strongest even when Prime Whitebeard was around, so meh titles are just reputation.
That's not proof, that's a hypothetical.

It's not debatable who's stronger between WB and Garp. Whitebeard was repeatedly called the strongest on MF by Marines who knew him in his prime whilst Garp was right there, including Sengoku who fought alongside Garp against Shiki. WB did not have the title of WSM when Garp/Roger beat Rocks, that came later. WB being WSM was absolute, there was no one above him. Even Roger once he got his title of Pirate King would've lost to WB due to illness.

King telling his daddy Kaido that he's the strongest is not the same as having a World's Strongest title lool. King can say whatever he wants. None of this is proof or even solid evidence towards indicating Mihawk's title is fraudulent. Mihawk's title which is constantly reiterated time and time again, and now backed up by a Yonko-level bounty and the opportunity to hold the same title as Shanks, which he refused because he preferred peace.

Word of advice, it's difficult to argue Shanks > Mihawk anymore. At best, Shanks can be equal to Mihawk and they can be the WB/Roger of this generation.
 
The thing about Zoro's dream is, that he needs to beat Mihawk in a fight to achieve his dream. So Zoro being the greatest swordmaster means beating Mihawk, the man known as the strongest swordsman in the world. So everything about him needs to be legit for Zoro's dream to be legit too. And you must be living under the rock if you think this is the only argument the Mihawk side has. It's one of many arguments used to get the point across because some people are too blinded by hate to see the truth. So once again, congrats on proving nothing.
Mihawk and Shanks were equal 13 years ago.. But things changed in Life, he gave up on Swordsmanship and decided to focus on
CoC..:kayneshrug:
 
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