Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.

[BleakAsh]

I don't even know what you're arguing bro

He's basically saying Ushimaru's skill is better than zoro even if Zoro is stronger than Ushimaru

 

[HA001]

He's basically saying Ushimaru's skill is better than zoro even if Zoro is stronger than Ushimaru

In what way is ushimarus skill better than zoros

 

[Rootbeer]

Shove the ranks where the sun doesn't shine.
Can ushimaru scar kaido ?

Already answered..

 

[[No Name]]

I don't read stupid topics and you don't read manga
I'd say we're even

You still come here to waste both my time and your time.
Do something more productive, you're here just to catch kudos and approvation from others by denigrating me and my threads, that's so SAD bro.
At least Style and the others try to debunk me after reading it, while you just come here, make fun of someone with your comments to receive the approvation of others?

I pity you, honestly, can't even get mad at you, you're like a child searching for convalidation from his classmates.

 

[HA001]

Already answered..

You haven't answered shit.

Vista can't scar kaido
Zoros swordsmsnship is better

Ushimaru can't scar kaido
Zoros swordsmanship is better

 

[nik87]

Ushimaru clashed with Kaido - Kaido walked away clean.
Shanks clashed with Kaido - Kaido walked away clean.
Zoro clashed with Kaido - Kaido walked away with a scar.
Who's got the best copium among anti-Zolo pirates?

 

[BleakAsh]

In what way is ushimarus skill better than zoros

title.. Dai Kengo great swordsman's , assuming if zoro is just swords master

 

[HA001]

You still come here to waste both my time and your time.
Do something more productive, you're here just to catch kudos and approvation from others by denigrating me and my threads, that's so SAD bro.
At least Style and the others try to debunk me after reading it, while you just come here, make fun of someone with your comments to receive the approvation of others?

I pity you, honestly, can't even get mad at you, you're like a child searching for convalidation from his classmates.

Instead of answering him why not grow a pair and answer why zoro is using the same moves from his intro

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Zoro became a Sword Master so he got better, he's same ranking as Shanks, but he isn't of the same rank of Vista, Ryuma, Mihawk and Ushimaru.
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Ok, you didn't even read it.

Basically, Zoro's skill level did not ever prevent him from being a swordsman. Zoro was a swordsman before he was a swordmaster; he is a swordsman after becoming a sword master, and he will be a swordsman after he becomes a great swordmaster, which means the WSS title applies across the board regardless of skill level.

Congratulations, you single-handedly destroyed the last hope of coping for the anti-Mihawk gang.

By the way in case you don't understand @Gol D. Roger is saying Shanks>Mihawk..

I said exactly the opposite.

 

[HeroesNZ]

So Zoro doesn't want to be strongest KENSHI but strongest Dai-Kengo right? This is what you are saying, confirm it and it's enough for me

Sandman said Zoro wants to be strongest Dai-Kengo, he knows more about translations than I do and I cba to scour through 1058 chapters for a panel of Zoro saying he wants to be Sekai Saikyo no Kenshi specifically. So I'll take his word for it.

Meaning Shanks isn't included in Zoro's dream as he isn't a Dai-Kengo.

However, Shanks is included in Mihawk's title as Mihawk is the strongest swordsman. So Mihawk is overall stronger than Shanks, and when Zoro surpasses Mihawk he will inevitably surpass Shanks as a result.

 

[Rootbeer]

Bold of you talking about headcanon

You already switched to your next argument because i canceled you..

 

[HA001]

title.. Dai Kengo great swordsman's , assuming if zoro is just swords master

Can ushimaru scar kaido

 

[wys]

Ushimaru clashed with Kaido - Kaido walked away clean.
Shanks clashed with Kaido - Kaido walked away clean.
Zoro clashed with Kaido - Kaido walked away with a scar.
Who's got the best copium among anti-Zolo pirates?

he did it while having 30 broken bones

 

[BleakAsh]

Ushimaru clashed with Kaido - Kaido walked away clean.
Shanks clashed with Kaido - Kaido walked away clean.
Zoro clashed with Kaido - Kaido walked away with a scar.
Who's got the best copium among anti-Zolo pirates?

but... Acoc? enma? plot?

comon now Nik you did read Saitama vs Garuo... basically Skill vs Superior physique

skill do no shit if they ain't potent

 

[Rootbeer]

I said exactly the opposite.

No you said Mihawk having greater Swordsmanship Skills than Shanks doesn't mean Shanks can't be overall stronger as a pirate..

 

[HA001]

No you said Mihawk having greater Swordsmanship Skills than Shanks doesn't mean Shanks can't be overall stronger as a pirate..

Pirate isn't a fighting style.
Shanks is a swordsman

 

[[No Name]]

Basically, Zoro's skill level did not ever prevent him from being a swordsman. Zoro was a swordsman before he was a swordmaster; he is a swordsman after becoming a sword master, and he will be a swordsman after he becomes a great swordmaster, which means the WSS title applies across the board regardless of skill level.

Congratulations, you single-handedly destroyed the last hope of coping for the anti-Mihawk gang

still Zoro's dream is to be the strongest Great swordmaster, Shanks isn't even included since he isn't one.
So congrats, the only argument about "mihawk's title must be true because related to zoro's dream" was destroyed, because shanks isn't included in Great swordmaster category so he can be stronger overall than Mihawk and this wouldn't make Zoro's dreame fake.

 

[Gelo]

You still come here to waste both my time and your time.
Do something more productive, you're here just to catch kudos and approvation from others by denigrating me and my threads, that's so SAD bro.
At least Style and the others try to debunk me after reading it, while you just come here, make fun of someone with your comments to receive the approvation of others?

I pity you, honestly, can't even get mad at you, you're like a child searching for convalidation from his classmates.

I have already argued in the other threads equal to this one
But the problem is that you don't know how to continue that by now you don't know what to come up with
At least respond to my arguments instead of ignoring them as you do with much of the manga
I honestly got tired of arguing and not getting a response because you don't know how to counter it

 

[BleakAsh]

Can ushimaru scar kaido

skill alone don't provide potency..

zoro had Coc imbued in his All out attack

we dont even know if even with superior skill if he had Acoc or even adequate potency to do that

zoro literally has modes.. which go beyond what mere skill does

but... Acoc? enma? plot?

comon now Nik you did read Saitama vs Garuo... basically Skill vs Superior physique

skill do no shit if they ain't potent

 

[[No Name]]

Sandman said Zoro wants to be strongest Dai-Kengo, he knows more about translations than I do and I cba to scour through 1058 chapters for a panel of Zoro saying he wants to be Sekai Saikyo no Kenshi specifically. So I'll take his word for it.

Meaning Shanks isn't included in Zoro's dream as he isn't a Dai-Kengo.

However, Shanks is included in Mihawk's title as Mihawk is the strongest swordsman. So Mihawk is overall stronger than Shanks, and when Zoro surpasses Mihawk he will inevitably surpass Shanks as a result.

But one of the main arguments was "Mihawk's title can't be fake because Shanks is included in Zoro's dream" now that this isn't valid this means that Mihawk's title can proven to be fraudulent and this wouldn't make Zoro's dream fake since Zoro only cares about being strongest Dai-Kengo.
Good, good.
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I have already argued in the other threads equal to this one
But the problem is that you don't know how to continue that by now you don't know what to come up with
At least respond to my arguments instead of ignoring them as you do with much of the manga
I honestly got tired of arguing and not getting a response because you don't know how to counter it

Just read what I have written above.