Controversial The defenitive thread about swordsmanship skills and titles.
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Stephen wasn't the Viz translator at the start of OP and Viz was known for its horrible translations. He was later made the official translator after which Viz had pretty consistent quality. These translations are his from when he was not a viz translator but doing it for the community.
I'm telling you again and again.
Mihawk has not one but 2 epithets.
"Sekaiichi no Daikengou" - "Greatest SwordMaster in the World" or " #1 Daikengou"
"Sekai SAIKYO no Kenshi" - "Worlds STRONGEST Swordsman."
Zoro's dream is to become the Greatest/#1 Daikengou, and he himself interprets it as becoming the Strongest Kenshi.
In the recent chapter, TCB fucked up and used the former when the epithet used was the later. Viz later on corrected it.
I'm telling you again and again.
Mihawk has not one but 2 epithets.
"Sekaiichi no Daikengou" - "Greatest SwordMaster in the World" or " #1 Daikengou"
"Sekai SAIKYO no Kenshi" - "Worlds STRONGEST Swordsman."
Zoro's dream is to become the Greatest/#1 Daikengou, and he himself interprets it as becoming the Strongest Kenshi.
In the recent chapter, TCB fucked up and used the former when the epithet used was the later. Viz later on corrected it.
OMG, the copium, the sheer desperation that people are now willing to put Shanks below even Vista so as to somehow save him from being weaker than Zoro EOS and Mihawk.
A Kengo (Swordmaster) or a Dai Kengo (Great Swordmaster) are still Kenshi (Swordsmen), if somebody is the WSS then they are stronger than all Kenshis, Kengos and Dai Kengos. Before people were arguing that Shanks is not a swordsman but OP tried his level best to establish that both Zoro and Shanks are indeed swordsmen by virtue of being referred to as Kengo (Swordmaster) which in turn puts them below Mihawk since he is the WSS.
A Kengo (Swordmaster) or a Dai Kengo (Great Swordmaster) are still Kenshi (Swordsmen), if somebody is the WSS then they are stronger than all Kenshis, Kengos and Dai Kengos. Before people were arguing that Shanks is not a swordsman but OP tried his level best to establish that both Zoro and Shanks are indeed swordsmen by virtue of being referred to as Kengo (Swordmaster) which in turn puts them below Mihawk since he is the WSS.
well some people have comprehension problems, you cannot convince them no matter how you argument or what you say. it doesn't matter to them if it is logical or not.
the matter is when we Shanks it was always about his Haki but when saw Mihawk it was always about his swordsmanship. i think it is already obvious but whatever.
the matter is when we Shanks it was always about his Haki but when saw Mihawk it was always about his swordsmanship. i think it is already obvious but whatever.
Even if it is true, the difference is Yasopp's a better shot. Mihawk is the Strongest Swordsman.
Who's a better marksman is determined by who can accurately shoot a farther target.
Who's the WSS is decided by who beats tthe current WSS in a duel (how Zoro aims to take the title).
In Yasopp's vc, his marksmanship is hyped by his ability to shoot even antennae off of an ant, etc,. It has nothing to do with proving superiority in 1v1 duel.
Who's a better marksman is determined by who can accurately shoot a farther target.
Who's the WSS is decided by who beats tthe current WSS in a duel (how Zoro aims to take the title).
In Yasopp's vc, his marksmanship is hyped by his ability to shoot even antennae off of an ant, etc,. It has nothing to do with proving superiority in 1v1 duel.
Not going into the "shanks vs mihawk" debate, because I'm just chilling watching y'all go at each other, but Yasopp's marksmanship is often stated as worldly renowned in vivre cards, etc.
Meanwhile we just learned that Beckmann uses some rifle to fight, despite the fact that we only saw using his gun as a baseball bat, except for the RED movie.
He pointed the gun at Kizaru, but Roux shot the thug in the flashback, etc.
Trying to say that Yasopp is not a better shooter than Beckmann, just to preserve the argument for the Shanks vs Mihawk debate, is kinda wack, IMO.
Anyway, gonna let you all go back to the fandom war.
Meanwhile we just learned that Beckmann uses some rifle to fight, despite the fact that we only saw using his gun as a baseball bat, except for the RED movie.
He pointed the gun at Kizaru, but Roux shot the thug in the flashback, etc.
Trying to say that Yasopp is not a better shooter than Beckmann, just to preserve the argument for the Shanks vs Mihawk debate, is kinda wack, IMO.
Anyway, gonna let you all go back to the fandom war.
Not going into the "shanks vs mihawk" debate, because I'm just chilling watching y'all go at each other, but Yasopp's marksmanship is often stated as worldly renowned in vivre cards, etc.
Meanwhile we just learned that Beckmann uses some rifle to fight, despite the fact that we only saw using his gun as a baseball bat, except for the RED movie.
He pointed the gun at Kizaru, but Roux shot the thug in the flashback, etc.
Trying to say that Yasopp is not a better shooter than Beckmann, just to preserve the argument for the Shanks vs Mihawk debate, is kinda wack, IMO.
Anyway, gonna let you all go back to the fandom war.
Meanwhile we just learned that Beckmann uses some rifle to fight, despite the fact that we only saw using his gun as a baseball bat, except for the RED movie.
He pointed the gun at Kizaru, but Roux shot the thug in the flashback, etc.
Trying to say that Yasopp is not a better shooter than Beckmann, just to preserve the argument for the Shanks vs Mihawk debate, is kinda wack, IMO.
Anyway, gonna let you all go back to the fandom war.
As for Shanks is a swordman or not, eh i'm not getting into that discussion.
Nothing i can said hasnt already been said by others like @ConquistadoR and better
I'm too deep into this shit that may or may not backfire horribly like ZKK anyways
I'm too deep into this shit that may or may not backfire horribly like ZKK anyways
Nothing i can said hasnt already been said by others like @ConquistadoR and better
I'm too deep into this shit that may or may not backfire horribly like ZKK anyways
I'm too deep into this shit that may or may not backfire horribly like ZKK anyways
I'm the only winner here I get to enjoy chaos
But actually Mihawk>Shanks
Hey you can still start trolling and instituting stuff between both sides like me
I'm the only winner here I get to enjoy chaos
But actually Mihawk>Shanks
I'm the only winner here I get to enjoy chaos
But actually Mihawk>Shanks
But knowing Oda's tendancy to fuck everything i care and believe in sideways, ...
Nothing i can said hasnt already been said by others like @ConquistadoR and better
I'm too deep into this shit that may or may not backfire horribly like ZKK anyways
I'm too deep into this shit that may or may not backfire horribly like ZKK anyways
Wouldn't worry too much about this one.
Unless the Straw Hats fight Cross Guild before the Red Hair Pirates.
In which case I would worry a lot.
I think Mihawk>Shanks is a much safer bet than ZKK.
Wouldn't worry too much about this one.
Unless the Straw Hats fight Cross Guild before the Red Hair Pirates.
In which case I would worry a lot.
Wouldn't worry too much about this one.
Unless the Straw Hats fight Cross Guild before the Red Hair Pirates.
In which case I would worry a lot.
Oda can clown on Mihawk and make him sweat from seeing Kizaru or something. I'm embracing myself from the worst now
You'll have to see hordes of retarded characters no gives a shit about and having Zoro vs Mihawk fight rushed because of it.
