According to you, let Sanji rot in WCI is the 'optimal' decision. Since that is the case, I hope you are not one of those insufferable Zorobunch who painted Sanji as a traitor with his decision in Zou.
First of all, drop those Zoro hater glasses, and don't make everything into something that requires Zoro bashing BS. I said it was the optimal decision given the information they have. They have no idea they're going to kill Sanji. They only know Sanji's returning to his family to get married against his will. That's all there is to it. Zoro suggested avoiding a fight with another Yonko. And Zoro was right because it ultimately made things complicated at WCI.
And Luffy went after Sanji without knowing the details although it ultimately ended up being the right decision. However, his decision was stupid based on what they know because Luffy put the lives of his crew in danger while disrespecting Sanji's resolve. Sure, they ultimately survived because they're the main characters.
Realistically speaking, they'd have gotten away with losing Sanji because of Zoro's decision while Luffy's decision would've cost him his life along with every other member that went to WCI if it weren't for the fact that Jinbe conveniently appeared at the right time to save their asses. With Luffy and others dead at WCI, I doubt Zoro, Law, and others would've survived Wano. You guys are equating getting lucky with making the right decisions. That's about as illogical as any logic can get.
Fisher tiger literally invaded mariejois and freed slaves.
If Zoro knew Sanji's exact situation like FT knew the slaves and he still told Luffy to not go to WCI, he'd be a coward.
And what you said is irony. You said they are insecure but at the same time Zoro is insecure by saying what he said. Vivi is not strong enough to survive like Ace if we speak 'optimally' but somehow it is correct thought process. Ace was stronger than Luffy at that time. Again irony. So optimal thought is thinking that Vivi is same as Ace. Good to know.
It's about competence, not fighting strength. Vivi survived GL on her own and did everything she could to ensure her Kingdome survives. She was fighting Crocodile alone before the SHs came along. So Zoro is telling them to believe in her in that context. No one is expecting her to have extreme diff matches with Imu lmao. And it's not like SHs knew it was the WG that is trying to kill them. So what do you suggest that they do? Wage a war against MJ? It's stupider than not doing anything as far as I am concerned.
No choice you make have 100% go in your way. Luck will play role in the so called "realistic" choices too.....Like I said, Sanji being dead is fine according to you.... Don't take risk to save Sanji life because that is the "realistic" thing....they took risk and luck saved them....guess you didn't know "fortune favors the brave".......
yeah end results matter....he was able to save camie and his crew got saved...he was unlucky because admiral targetted only his crew..rest of SN crews escaped....and at the end he lost because Ace died..so yeah, end results matter...that's all people talk...
Bottom line is they have survived...you can whine and cry louder doesn't change the fact that they have survived...you can cry plot armor/ blah blah........you can't question ifs and buts to the winners....bet you didn't like the scene of Zoro trying to get the sword in loguetown because he "gambled" his hand and got "lucky"....
Your choices aren't supposed to be carried by luck 100%, which is what happened at WCI. Again, you can't justify stupid decisions are good decisions because they survived. No one said they shouldn't take risks but there is a thin line b/w taking risks and leaving everything to chances. That's not how people are supposed to work. You could jump off a ship in the middle of the ocean and survive if you got lucky and a boat or ship finds you. But that's still a stupid thing to do even if you survive in the end. Remember, fortune favors the brave but not the stupid. Fortune did favor Luffy's stupid ass at WCI because he's the MC, not because he was making the right decisions while taking calculated risks.
It's funny how you're getting extremely defensive while trying to hide the fact that Luffy's decision almost cost them the entire crew's lives while saying "you think they should've let Sanji rot" lmao. Firstly, they didn't know Sanji was in danger when Luffy decided to go to WCI. The worst that'd have happened to him according to what they know was a family that he doesn't like.
Was letting Sanji go a good decision given the circumstances at Zou? Yes. Do I suggest they should've let Sanji die without doing anything about it when they know his condition? No. That's still the right decision to make but that makes Zoro and the SHs cowards if they decided to leave Sanji knowing he'd die at WCI but they didn't know it. Luffy risked the crew's lives just to get Sanji back when he made that decision. So the most Luffy'd have lost by following Zoro's suggestion was Sanji while the most he'd have lost by following his own idea was the whole crew. Once again, it makes them cowards, but not stupid.
And Luffy lost his brother....and how is Zoro right when he stated Ace example...? Zoro asked luffy to do exactly what he did with Ace....and Ace died at the end....and how Luffy losing Ace was Luffy fault?....this shit example trying to justify Zoro is just a selective bias...never expected this shitty logic from you...
Yes, Luffy lost his brother, so what do you suggest he should do? Stop believing in people in general and deal with their problems on his own because his brother failed once. That's not Luffy. Believing in their Nakama and trusting they can overcome their own issues is how SHs function in general. If Luffy can't trust Vivi with her own shit, then he might as well stop believing in Zoro and fight his fights because Ace died.
zoro Decision is so bad and a hypocrite then wtf did rubber brain and germa sperm listen ??
