One Piece Chapter 1060 "Luffy's Dream"

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Peeps should stop acting like Green Mom used some mind-boggling strategy to save the crew or something. He's merely using common sense while the others are acting out of emotion. If they have any basis to think Vivi is being kept at MJ, Zoro would totally agree to fight WG. He's simply suggesting they shouldn't take stupid risks without any basis.
 
irst of all, drop those Zoro hater glasses, and don't make everything into something that requires Zoro bashing BS. I said it was the optimal decision given the information they have. They have no idea they're going to kill Sanji. They only know Sanji's returning to his family to get married against his will. That's all there is to it. Zoro suggested avoiding a fight with another Yonko. And Zoro was right because it ultimately made things complicated at WCI.
Oh please, they don't know the Vivi situation here too then. They only know Vivi whereabouts are unknown. Drop these Zoro cocksucking and you will see it. It's not like they went to fight another yonko. Things got complicated because they wanted to rescue Germa. If it is just saving Sanji, they could have come back with Sanji. And then probably both Germa and BMP will be after Luffy ass. And if Sanji didn't go, they will do the same. So, even if Luffy didn't pick a fight, end scenario is such that BMP will come after Luffy.

And Luffy went after Sanji without knowing the details although it ultimately ended up being the right decision. However, his decision was stupid based on what they know because Luffy put the lives of his crew in danger while disrespecting Sanji's resolve. Sure, they ultimately survived because they're the main characters.
If you drop Luffy hate glasses, and don't make everything that requires fluffy bashing BS. Luffy went after Sanji that's all. Luffy didn't disrespect Sanji resolve. Reread chapter 815 on why Luffy wanted to go to Sanji in the first place. And he was right. If he ended up not going because of so called 'optimal' decision, then Sanji would have died and we will have to look at what the 'optimal' thinking crew will have after this. You people sure talk about 'realistic scenarios' in a fiction manga as per your convenience. :suresure:

you can't say people are wrong when they have won. Luffy was wrong to pick a fight with Kaidou in chapter 923 because he lost.

They survived. They will survive because they are main characters. That is the case even without Zoro. They will survive because they are main characters. Hence, problem solved. They will survive even in mariejois because they are main characters. So, no argument then. Case closed.
 
Peeps should stop acting like Green Mom used some mind-boggling strategy to save the crew or something. He's merely using common sense while the others are acting out of emotion. If they have any basis to think Vivi is being kept at MJ, Zoro would totally agree to fight WG. He's simply suggesting they shouldn't take stupid risks without any basis.
Considering 99% of One Piece population is brain dead, making common sense is damn near feat of genius in the world of One Piece.
 
What a chapter. I'm glad we finally get the crew interacting with each other. Those banters between Luffy, Nami, Chopper, Sanji and Zoro were hilarious.

I thought Sabo was with Vivi but why is he in Lulucia? Where is Vivi? And the thing that destroyed Lulucia, is that Uranus? Makes me more excited to see who Imu actually is.

AND FINALLY JEWELRY BONNEY TIME :blush: :sweat::neesama:. I'm glad there's no break next week :steef:.
 
Zoro and Sanji knows the harsh facts, both understands Luffy’s decisions.

Whatever Luffy does, Luffy is smarter than people give him credit for.

Zoro just speaks the cold hard fact.
All the decisions the Strawhats makes are good, bad and poor. Luck is a major factor.

I believe that the Luffy’s DF is interacting with him in more ways than we know.
Nothing like that. Luffy is dumbed down.
 
Peeps should stop acting like Green Mom used some mind-boggling strategy to save the crew or something. He's merely using common sense while the others are acting out of emotion. If they have any basis to think Vivi is being kept at MJ, Zoro would totally agree to fight WG. He's simply suggesting they shouldn't take stupid risks without any basis.
People tend to forget that Zoro's one of the more level minded on the crew. In Water 7 for example;

- One Piece Fandom Wiki

"He is also very loyal as he will stand by Luffy's decisions regardless of whether he personally agrees or not, stepping in only to point out the seriousness of a situation where it has been overlooked by his crewmates, most notably when they wanted to bring Usopp back into the crew after Usopp challenged Luffy to a duel over the Going Merry and lost, even willing to quit the crew himself if Luffy just brushed the incident off and treated it as another joke because it betrayed his strong values in loyalty."
 
Zoro and Sanji knows the harsh facts, both understands Luffy’s decisions.

Whatever Luffy does, Luffy is smarter than people give him credit for.

Zoro just speaks the cold hard fact.
All the decisions the Strawhats makes are good, bad and poor. Luck is a major factor.

I believe that the Luffy’s DF is interacting with him in more ways than we know.
If his DF is the Dumu Dumu no Mi :suresure:

Luffy is a lot smarter when it comes to battling, but not as smart when it comes to other things.

Does he have his moments? Of course. Every protagonist does. But his inability to think of the best solutions to problems overshadows his intelligence most of the time.
 
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Luffy is dumb as fuck
Not really. At least not when it is important. Like telling momo to stand up for himself or getting rid of immediate threats like Katakuri from the crew when they were in shock of Pedro's death, like the entire chapter 949 to slap the reality in samurai faces, etc. But these moments are overshadowed by stupid writing.
And Like you said he is the one who told about Ace and he is the one who now has to listen to another person about what he said before. It is like pre-skip Luffy telling to current Luffy.
 

Gol D. Roger

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Oh please, they don't know the Vivi situation here too then. They only know Vivi whereabouts are unknown. Drop these Zoro cocksucking and you will see it. It's not like they went to fight another yonko. Things got complicated because they wanted to rescue Germa. If it is just saving Sanji, they could have come back with Sanji. And then probably both Germa and BMP will be after Luffy ass. And if Sanji didn't go, they will do the same. So, even if Luffy didn't pick a fight, end scenario is such that BMP will come after Luffy.
Not knowing Vivi's situation makes Zoro more right lmao. Are you even thinking before writing or are you just typing whatever to bash Zoro and the people you associate with him? You can't prove a point with irrational tantrums. I don't give a rats ass about Zoro being right. If he said the same things that Luffy says, then I'd call him stupid too while I can't say the same about you given how desperate you're getting to justify Luffy's irrational behavior, which is well-known even within the manga.

Things didn't get complicated because they tried to save Germa. Luffy by himself wouldn't have made it to the Tea Party in the first place. He lost track of the crew as soon as he entered the island and then he himself got captured only to be conveniently rescued by Jinbe, which also conveniently happened to be at the right place at the right time lmao. What Big Mom wanted was Germa's technology, not Sanji's. If she couldn't get Sanji, she could just invite Judge to the Tea Party in the name of an alliance and murder him there. They only needed marriage to gather Germa in one place. The Tea Party would serve that purpose without the marriage.


If you drop Luffy hate glasses, and don't make everything that requires fluffy bashing BS. Luffy went after Sanji that's all. Luffy didn't disrespect Sanji resolve. Reread chapter 815 on why Luffy wanted to go to Sanji in the first place. And he was right. If he ended up not going because of so called 'optimal' decision, then Sanji would have died and we will have to look at what the 'optimal' thinking crew will have after this. You people sure talk about 'realistic scenarios' in a fiction manga as per your convenience. :suresure:
you can't say people are wrong when they have won. Luffy was wrong to pick a fight with Kaidou in chapter 923 because he lost.

They survived. They will survive because they are main characters. That is the case even without Zoro. They will survive because they are main characters. Hence, problem solved. They will survive even in mariejois because they are main characters. So, no argument then. Case closed.
I don't dedicate every other post to bitch about Luffy and his fans, so whatever you said doesn't apply to me. And you don't have to be a hater to say something stupid is stupid lmao. He did disrespect Sanji's revolve because he went after him knowing full well that's what Sanji wanted. Luffy legit confirms he doesn't care about Germa or Sanji's marriage—He even learned why Sanji was forced to accept Big Mom's invitation and that Sanji's marriage won't make him Big Mom's underling. He ignored everything simply because he wanted to get Sanji back regardless of his reasons. That's the only reason he went after him because he didn't know they were going to kill him until he got to WCI. Luffy made his decisions selfishly without respecting Sanji's decision.

And you can call a wrong decision wrong even if they won. That's how logic works for normal people—although I can't say the same about blind wankers. Of course, they'd have a happy ending because they're the main characters, but that's not gonna change their stupid decisions into some groundbreaking strategies. This isn't Luffy-specific if that's what you're so insecure about. The same rules apply to Zoro or any given character if that makes sense to you.

Not really. At least not when it is important. Like telling momo to stand up for himself or getting rid of immediate threats like Katakuri from the crew when they were in shock of Pedro's death, like the entire chapter 949 to slap the reality in samurai faces, etc. But these moments are overshadowed by stupid writing.
And Like you said he is the one who told about Ace and he is the one who now has to listen to another person about what he said before. It is like pre-skip Luffy telling to current Luffy.
Zoro told Luffy to follow his own decision from pre-skip when it failed—>Zoro is dumbass.

Luffy is now following his own decision from two years ago—>Luffy is a genius.

Lmao, can this get any more ridiculous? And you think you're some justice warrior who calls out Zoro cucks for being hypocrites.
 
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