General & Others This is absolutely shameless
- Thread starter Monkey D Theories
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This was nothing to complain about chief, it made sense that he doesn’t reveal it. It will be one of the last motivations after finding One Piece. Whether it’s a lame reveal or not also won’t matter that much anyways. The fact that it’s also Roger’s unfinished dream means it’s the benchmark that Luffy surpassed Roger in accomplishments. I mean think about becoming Pirate King nowadays, it’s just finding an island that Roger Pirates already went to. Sanji’s dream of finding the all blue is similar but more grandiose ‘cause he’ll be the first to do it (probably).
"Why don't they tell who the killer is at the start of the movie?"
Luffy's dream isn't a real mystery. Literally every major character knows about it, but the reader doesn't. Oda needs to go out of his way to conceal Luffy's dream from the reader, which is why its so fucking bad.
Really? I never got any foreshadowing that Luffy has any dreams other than pirate king, especially, when his dream was established since chapter 1 =>
and when Oda doubled down Luffy's dream in this iconic panel =>
Then he said the same thing immediately after timeskip to Rayleigh =>
"Rayleigh, I am gonna do it. I am gonna be the king of pirates"
Then he said the same to Big Mom and Kaido. He said his pirate king dream so many times that I have never really considered that his real dream could be something else.
and when Oda doubled down Luffy's dream in this iconic panel =>
Then he said the same thing immediately after timeskip to Rayleigh =>
"Rayleigh, I am gonna do it. I am gonna be the king of pirates"
Then he said the same to Big Mom and Kaido. He said his pirate king dream so many times that I have never really considered that his real dream could be something else.
Luffy gained a brother out of nowhere and that brother was revealed to be the son of Roger. Then he had another brother out of nowhere who was revealed to be the right hand of his mysterious dad who then turned out to be the second coming of Ace. You may not like some or any of it, but that's by design and not a flaw ont the story being told.
One Piece is a story where we find out things of characters we've known for decades. I can't tell you the shock post enies lobby when fucking Garp showed up and said oh yeah Dragon's your dad.
We have always known enough for Luffy to work. You can assume he likes pirate shit and wants to be the best, the most free. And that's really enough. This is just to add more context, which any fucking person should have expected. Remember when Shanks was astonished to tell Ray that Luffy said the same words as Roger? What's so amazing about a kid just saying they want to accomplish some pretty cool pirate shit in the age of pirates in itself? Would he give his arm for teach or Kaido since they're also the most ambitious of pirates?
Chapter one Luffy said he wanted to outdo Shanks. Weird example but Drake's dad also said his kid started out by looking at his music career and saying he wanted to be bigger and better than his dad. But is that enough to make his whole life? Years and decades of effort just to be better than some guy who kinda impresses you?
1060 chapters
and we still know shit
Oda skipped many important events and has still his silhouette fetish
Yes he can keep a secret what the OP is but Oda can show us for example Imu's design, some info about Dragon or Shanks etc.
The meaning of the D. could’ve been revealed in Wano
Oda will probably solve every single mystery at once (in Laugh Tale) but this is not " good writing"
It’s been 1060 chapters and 25 years man, it’s time
and we still know shit
Oda skipped many important events and has still his silhouette fetish
Yes he can keep a secret what the OP is but Oda can show us for example Imu's design, some info about Dragon or Shanks etc.
The meaning of the D. could’ve been revealed in Wano
Oda will probably solve every single mystery at once (in Laugh Tale) but this is not " good writing"
It’s been 1060 chapters and 25 years man, it’s time
Mysteries are good when they feel natural. But this isn't natural. This just seems like Oda is baiting the readers.
This is the closest example I can think of where another manga did something even remotely similar to what Oda has been doing. But even this is incomparable. Because:
This is the closest example I can think of where another manga did something even remotely similar to what Oda has been doing. But even this is incomparable. Because:
- Dabi isn't the main character
- This is the first time Dabi has revealed his identity
- Horikoshi tells us who Dabi is within this very arc
- The blacked out speech bubble and Hawks's stare afterwords adds to the tension of the scene
I am glad you have your ad hoc definition of Mistery, but I can make you countless examples of misteries that everybody knows that are still misteries for the reader.
Like Naruto being the hokage son, or who Void is in berserk, a ton of people in universe know the mistery yet it's still a mistery for the reader.
Near's plan in death note is a mistery to the reader, but all his colleagues know it.
Like Naruto being the hokage son, or who Void is in berserk, a ton of people in universe know the mistery yet it's still a mistery for the reader.
Near's plan in death note is a mistery to the reader, but all his colleagues know it.
Didn't you say you were dropping the manga like months ago? Or was that proclamation just fkr attention like this post is.
Its not "the worst writing" anyone has ever seen, its obviously an integral part to the conclusion lf the story. At this point, why are you even still reading it other than to hate read it?
Its not "the worst writing" anyone has ever seen, its obviously an integral part to the conclusion lf the story. At this point, why are you even still reading it other than to hate read it?
After 1059 chapters and 25 years, finally Oda is naming a chapter “Luffy’s dream”. For any long time readers this means that in this chapter we will know what Luffy’s dream is (even tho it was suppose to be being PK).
But in the chapter Luffy does not reveal his dream. After 1059 chapters and 25 years we still don’t know what is Luffy true dream.
“But Oda cannot reveal Luffy’s dream now because it will spoil the EOS”
So why the fuck he named the chapter “Luffy’s dream” if he did not intended to reveal it?
To bait the audience, to make people do theories and theories. There was no narrative sense to named the chapter like this for not revealing the dream in it thus why it is bad writting.
Note that Oda is meticulously destroying a lot of things that he has established in chapter one:
-Shanks refused kids on his boat => Nope just Luffy
-Luffy’s dream is to be the Pirate king => Nope that just one step
-Luffy ate the gomu gomu no mi, a stupid paramecia => Nope Luffy ate a Zoan which is a very hax fruit
I wonder what will be next ?
But in the chapter Luffy does not reveal his dream. After 1059 chapters and 25 years we still don’t know what is Luffy true dream.
“But Oda cannot reveal Luffy’s dream now because it will spoil the EOS”
So why the fuck he named the chapter “Luffy’s dream” if he did not intended to reveal it?
To bait the audience, to make people do theories and theories. There was no narrative sense to named the chapter like this for not revealing the dream in it thus why it is bad writting.
Note that Oda is meticulously destroying a lot of things that he has established in chapter one:
-Shanks refused kids on his boat => Nope just Luffy
-Luffy’s dream is to be the Pirate king => Nope that just one step
-Luffy ate the gomu gomu no mi, a stupid paramecia => Nope Luffy ate a Zoan which is a very hax fruit
I wonder what will be next ?
