The baiting Room

[Ssg super suit coby]

A person's Haki level isn't determined by their choice of weapon or fighting style. Haki mostly depends on their potential. And the reason why most swordsmen are high-level Haki users is that they prefer not eating a devil's fruit while most hand-to-hand combat users opt for a devil's fruit. The only exception to this rule is Garp and he's as good at Haki as any other non-DF user.

Cute now find where I stated "haki level increases with a weapon". Exactly read.

A person fist is naturally not going to be as lethal as a weapon. A kaido punching with his fist is going to be less impact full than a kaido swinging a club why? Because the club is naturally more lethal.

It's why all to tiers in the entire verse use weaponry. It's not that they cut fight without it. It's that having a weapon increases lethality and potentcy naturally.

Rayleigh
Roger
Kaido
Bigmom
Mihawk
Shanks
Oden
Whitebeard

ALL USE WEAPONS!!!!!! why? Because they can coat their fruit ability and haki onto an object more lethal than just their fists

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So what are you arguing for?

My point was to prove you can't class Whitebeard as a swordsman because he uses a bladed weapon therefore you can't say Mihawk > Whitebeard because derp strongest swordsman.

You seem to be trying to argue for the sake of arguing with this point.

The hell? Your point was that whitebeard attacks with his fist are more destructive than with his weapon. That is factually incorrect. That was my only point

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Garp a different breed

Only fists no DF or weapon

It's a matter of affinity. Luffy, for example, doesn't have much talent with weapons. So using a weapon when you don't have a talent for it may end up hindering your potential.

 

[zzShinichi]

Alright it's getting toxic now, can we move the thread to Ground Floor. It's dead af and people just mistook it for a powerscailing thread I miss the pre-spoiler memes

 

[Nerve74]

How can he think the tittle of Yonko is beneath him and there was 2 Yonkos with titles above him and they're depicted as all being comparable.

You're not making any sense

Its simple. Yonko titles have way more variation then Worlds Strongest title.
Kaido and WB were Yonko but also WS. Shanks, BM, BB, and Luffy are Yonko but not WS. Mihawk is WS but not Yonko.
He views the Yonko title ALONE as nothing serious. This why he has no interest in fighting Shanks. He knows he stronger then him. WS titles are a different game. That's his level.
:cheers:

 

[Warback]

What is the peak of swordsmanship tho?
"I won't answer because I'm part of the cringe club that spams that Mihawk doesn't have haki or that he doesn't excel at it"

Why don't you answer me first tho? What is swordmanship?

Is it sitting in a dojo untill you learn Haki somehow?

Sani: Zeff teach me how to figth by kicking
Zeff: I can't boy, you don't know haki, it's pointless

 

[Lor D. Coast]

keep coping retard

This kid admitted to be part of the twilight fandom...this is the type of people that talk shit about Mihawk.

 

[Adamxero]

Cute did we see her blitz him on panel? No.

All we saw was that he noticed it. Nothing suggest that he would not be able to counter or atleast dodge it. That's the point.

He is in shock that his subordinates and colleagues are useless. He then turns his attention to the pacifists ordering them not to attack to harm his comrades. Nothing suggests that she was going to get that hit on him.

So it's clear you are reaching

What!? the panel of her saying perfume which means she's preparing a kick attack like you conceded earlier not a beam attack which you previously thought but quickly back tracked and coped.

This panel is right next to the Coby panicking panel not next to the one of him worrying about the other marine fodder. How you can read that page and see something thats completely clear is baffling to say the least.

Hancock: Perfume

Coby: 'Shit she's going to hit me'

Blackbeard grabs her.

Why would Blackbeard and Hancock be right in front of Coby if she hadn't made her way there to kick him please explain that.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

It's a matter of affinity. Luffy, for example, doesn't have much talent with weapons. So using a weapon when you don't have a talent for it may end up hindering your potential.

He has a fruit that increases his fists potency.

Ok let's make this easy if luffy picked up a black blade or better yet a diamond club ad he coats all of his haki types on to that piece of diamond bat. What do you think is going to hit harder. Him simply punching your or him hitting you with something coated with his haki that's naturally more destructive than just his fist?

 

[Meeyori]

The superior tag.

now just gotta wait 3 years before I actually reach it

 

[Warback]

Its simple. Yonko titles have way more variation then Worlds Strongest title.
Kaido and WB were Yonko but also WS. Shanks, BM, BB, and Luffy are Yonko but not WS. Mihawk is WS but not Yonko.
He views the Yonko title ALONE as nothing serious. This why he has no interest in fighting Shanks. He knows he stronger then him. WS titles are a different game. That's his level.
:cheers:

Completly incongruent with what you said before that he views Yonko has beneath him when 50% of the Yonkos we're above him but ok

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

What!? the panel of her saying perfume which means she's preparing a kick attack like you conceded earlier not a beam attack which you previously thought but quickly back tracked and coped.

This panel is right next to the Coby panicking panel not next to the one of him worrying about the other marine fodder. How you can read that page and see something thats completely clear is baffling to say the least.

Hancock: Perfume

Coby: 'Shit she's going to hit me'

Blackbeard grabs her.

Why would Blackbeard and Hancock be right in front of Coby if she hadn't made her way there to kick him please explain that.

Yes now show the panel of him not being able to avoid it because the kick was already in his face?

Infact him saying shit she is gonna hit me means he already perceived her attack with his observation so he knew it was coming lol

Your reading comprehension is poor.

She was going to kick coby. Ok now show the panel on which he couldn't perceive it. Show the panel in which he would not be able to clash it or avoid it. Show the panel in which she spead blitzed him and he had to be saved by bb..

Exactly. Read before responding.

Infact your point gives more hype to coby since she was only going to attack him since her longed ranged attack that got vice admirals and bb commanders failed to work on him in the first place for her to need to attack him lol

 

[Nerve74]

Why don't you answer me first tho? What is swordmanship?

Is it sitting in a dojo untill you learn Haki somehow?

Sani: Zeff teach me how to figth by kicking
Zeff: I can't boy, you don't know haki, it's pointless

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Completly incongruent with what you said before that he views Yonko has beneath him when 50% of the Yonkos we're above him but ok

Can't distinguish between Yonko title and Individual Yonkos the hold titles higher then yonko.

 

[Adamxero]

Yes now show the panel of him not being able to avoid it because the kick was already in his face?

Infact him saying shit she is gonna hit me means he already perceived her attack with his observation so he knew it was coming lol

The fact the Blackbeard grabbed Hancock and Coby hadn't moved implies he wasn't going to avoid it. If Oda wanted to show us Coby could avoid that kick he would have but he didn't he had someone stop her.

You can perceive an attack but still not be quick enough to do anything about it.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

So, is the name of the thread to be taken literally? Can we post some stuff? I need answers.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Why don't you answer me first tho? What is swordmanship?

Is it sitting in a dojo untill you learn Haki somehow?

Sani: Zeff teach me how to figth by kicking
Zeff: I can't boy, you don't know haki, it's pointless

He can't answer what the peak of swordsmanship is...
Lanji is irrelevant to this discussion, kid Zoro learned haki concepts that Lanji will never have but you wouldn't know this since you're another illiterate redditor.

Watch as the redditor has no idea what this means.

 

[Kingslayer]

Would shanksfans consider this swordsmanship if it was shanks instead of zoro? be honest

 

[Adamxero]

So, is the name of the thread to be taken literally? Can we post some stuff? I need answers.

Please do

 

[Gol D. Roger]

He has a fruit that increases his fists potency.

Ok let's make this easy if luffy picked up a black blade or better yet a diamond club ad he coats all of his haki types on to that piece of diamond bat. What do you think is going to hit harder. Him simply punching your or him hitting you with something coated with his haki that's naturally more destructive than just his fist?

His punch would hit harder because he doesn't have the talent to channel his powers into a weapon properly. I get where you're coming from. You're not wrong, neither is the other dude. You guys are arguing different things. With that being said, yes, weapons increase an attack's overall lethality but not all weapon-based attacks are stronger than bare-fisted attacks. If two attacks are fueled equally with the same physical attributes and Haki while one is a punch while the other is a sword slash, the slash would always end up being more lethal, which I think is what you're saying and it's true.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

The fact the Blackbeard grabbed Hancock and Coby hadn't moved implies he wasn't going to avoid it. If Oda wanted to show us Coby could avoid that kick he would have but he didn't he had someone stop her.

You can perceive an attack but still not be quick enough to do anything about it.

He also didn't show her attack remotely landing or being in the area of his face.

Infact I can argue him not moving means he was going to clash with it or tank it completely with tekkai infused with armament haki

 

[zzShinichi]

I hope Oda does him justice in the Final War tho. White Chaser is a cool title.