Character Discussion A reason to why Kaido didn't use Awakening..

Rootbeer

Rootbeer

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#1
So right away it's not that Kaido didn't use Awakening it's that he can't use it.. And for 2 specific reasons..

The first one Sawyer7mage explains it very well when he touch upon the subject in his
review for One Piece chapter 1061..


The Zoan Awakenings have risk to them.. You can lose yourself to the primal desire of said animals in
certain cases..


This effect can also be noticed in races that have beast like genetics such as the Fishmen and the Minks..
lt was shown with Arlong when he snapped at Luffy his personality completely changed and he had red eyes..
The same with Sulong transformation their pupil turn red and if they stay too long in that state they can go
berserk similar to pre timeskip Monster point..

l believe that Kaido too and his Oni race have the same tendency to unleash their innate monster and the
tendency to not be able to control a Zoan Awakening as they would go on a rampage..


That's why Kaido asked Luffy who he was again while holding his own face to confirm whether his Zoan
had taken over his body or not..



This characteristic can as well be observed in Sea Kings that go astray from the Calm belt they go berserk
with red eyes..


With this explanation at least i can accept Kaido not using Awakening in Wano which was a
big factor that prevented me from moving on and as to how Kaido went down..



lf Kaido was to ever eat a rumble ball and able to go Awakening for 30 minutes..
He would without a doubt be on par or above Prime Whitebeard Roger..
:cheers:
 
Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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Albino 👑 said:
Luffys awakening form
  • Turns white
  • Curly eyebrows
  • Double ringed eyes
  • Hair changes
Kaido stronger form
  • Physically bulks up
  • Curly eyebrows
  • Double ringed eyes
  • Teeth change
  • Nose change
Its a more beast like transformation that makes him stronger and has some similarities to luffy's awakening. Dont think kaido straight up saying he has awakening is necessary. Especially when katakuri had it and acted like him having it was plain obviously something he could do.
Kaido himself even explaining how zoan awakening work to luffy even clarifying the difference between zoan and paramecia awakening. Kaido himself being the strongest zoan

Doflamingo had it, katakuri had it, Like kaido and linlin are obviously awakened
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Albino 👑 said:
Zoan awakening
A stronger more beast like transformation
Something kaido showed

Paramecia
Allows you to use apply your devil fruit abilities to your surroundings outside of you yourself
Sometimes linlin has shown multiple times

We already got the explanation of what each awakening looks like
We already got to see them apply those abilities
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Normal vs awakening
Hybrid vs a more animalistic beast like form


Vs


Normal vs awakening
Using own soul to power herself up, to create her main homies, and incarnations

Using the souls of others
 
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WizardKing

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Rootbeer said:
So right away it's not that Kaido didn't use Awakening it's that he can't use it.. And for 2 specific reasons..

The first one Sawyer7mage explains it very well when he touch upon the subject in his
review for One Piece chapter 1061..


The Zoan Awakenings have risk to them.. You can lose yourself to the primal desire of said animals in
certain cases..


This effect can also be noticed in races that have beast like genetics such as the Fishmen and the Minks..
lt was shown with Arlong when he snapped at Luffy his personality completely changed and he had red eyes..
The same with Sulong transformation their pupil turn red and if they stay too long in that state they can go
berserk similar to pre timeskip Monster point..

l believe that Kaido too and his Oni race have the same tendency to unleash their innate monster and the
tendency to not be able to control a Zoan Awakening as they would go on a rampage..


That's why Kaido asked Luffy who he was again while holding his own face to confirm whether his Zoan
had taken over his body or not..



This characteristic can as well be observed in Sea Kings that go astray from the Calm belt they go berserk
with red eyes..


With this explanation at least i can accept Kaido not using Awakening in Wano which was a
big factor that prevented me from moving on and as to how Kaido went down..



lf Kaido was to ever eat a rumble ball and able to go Awakening for 30 minutes..
He would without a doubt be on par or above Prime Whitebeard Roger..
:cheers:
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He dont even know that luffy has a zoan df fruit
 
Rootbeer

Rootbeer

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soheilhazrat said:
Imagine WSC is scared of a power
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He's not scared, he knows he would go berserk either way..

Albino 👑 said:
Normal vs awakening
Hybrid vs a more animalistic beast like form


Vs


Normal vs awakening
Using own soul to power herself up, to create her main homies, and incarnations

Using the souls of others
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That's not Awakening, it's Kaido's Oni side manifesting, that's why if he did transform into Awakening his Oni traits would be consumed by the Dragon inside of him..

WizardKing said:
He dont even know that luffy has a zoan df fruit
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He said in the video that Luffy is a zoan..:seriously:
 
Rootbeer

Rootbeer

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Albino 👑 said:
Why would you think its oni blood awakening when we know zoan awakenings are an actual thing. His awakening makes him more beast like which that form does
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Same with Arlong when his eyes turned red or Sulong some races have beast like predispositions.. lf it was Awakening it would be very apparent in the distinction not only minimal facial difference or a little bulkier..
 
Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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Rootbeer said:
Same with Arlong when his eyes turned red or Sulong some races have beast like predispositions.. lf it was Awakening it would be very apparent in the distinction not only minimal facial difference or a little bulkier..
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His transformation is all about him getting more beast like
  • Physically bulks up
  • Curly eyebrows
  • Double ringed eyes
  • Teeth change
  • Nose change
An oni transformation doesn't go off anything we know about. Arlong only got more angry with no physical change and sulong is super to make you bigger and more beast like
 
Jailer

Jailer

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#14
#14
That doesn't make sense as Kaido has the whole beast theme, so his senses becoming more dragon like would make sense, but also Dragons are legendary creatures, simply make his zoan smarter then, depending on trope they aren't portrayed as brainless animals at all, so we have the complete Wisdom King.
 
ShadowStyle369

ShadowStyle369

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#17
#17
Rootbeer said:
So right away it's not that Kaido didn't use Awakening it's that he can't use it.. And for 2 specific reasons..

The first one Sawyer7mage explains it very well when he touch upon the subject in his
review for One Piece chapter 1061..


The Zoan Awakenings have risk to them.. You can lose yourself to the primal desire of said animals in
certain cases..


This effect can also be noticed in races that have beast like genetics such as the Fishmen and the Minks..
lt was shown with Arlong when he snapped at Luffy his personality completely changed and he had red eyes..
The same with Sulong transformation their pupil turn red and if they stay too long in that state they can go
berserk similar to pre timeskip Monster point..

l believe that Kaido too and his Oni race have the same tendency to unleash their innate monster and the
tendency to not be able to control a Zoan Awakening as they would go on a rampage..


That's why Kaido asked Luffy who he was again while holding his own face to confirm whether his Zoan
had taken over his body or not..



This characteristic can as well be observed in Sea Kings that go astray from the Calm belt they go berserk
with red eyes..


With this explanation at least i can accept Kaido not using Awakening in Wano which was a
big factor that prevented me from moving on and as to how Kaido went down..



lf Kaido was to ever eat a rumble ball and able to go Awakening for 30 minutes..
He would without a doubt be on par or above Prime Whitebeard Roger..
:cheers:
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i find it hilarious that you watch someone like sawyer and yet... zoro still has no adv coc to you :milaugh:
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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#18
#18
It’s simple, Kaidos not strong mentally. Awakening occurs when ones body and mind can fully handle the devil fruit power.

For example, Choppers body is too weak so his rumble awakening breaks him. The jailer beasts minds were too weak so their forced awakening causes them to lose themselves.

If kaido forced an awakening he’d go bersedo.
 
Paperchampion23

Paperchampion23

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Inb4 Oda confirms he did in an SBS and its just his ability to seemlessly transform between forms, including the buff dragon one. Kaido's definition of awakening implies it has to do with DF mastery than "just" a transformation. Technically Luffy unlocking it once means he's awakened his power and has now technically mastered his fruit in the end, so he might be able to jump to G5 seemlessly or use G5 attacks without directly transforming in the future, especially moves that affect the environment

I.e. he might be able to make the ground rubber in his current form.
 
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