Future Events The Structure of One Piece's Final Plotline Has Been Clear For Hundreds of Chapters
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Greg also often talked about the 5 year sentence as well and said that there is in fact pressure from a sales standpoint, hence Jump tries to boost sales in literall every way possible. New box Sets, new ads, Crossover with Cup noodles, Interview and song with arashi, Shibuya station poster, and... comments about the ending
Greg works for the OP team in Japan and writes articles for Shueisha, with theories/analysis. Before they go up online, they get checked by Oda's team, if he's correct about some theories and as a result a major spoiler for fans, they tell him he can't include it. That's one way he knows, the other way is simply that he's developed a relationship with Oda personally and his editors so they may have shared certain details.
Well, his past comments about "progress" have always been around the idea that its never a "measure" of chapters in the story, but a rough measure of Luffy's actual journey. Funny enough, this SBS actually seems to revolve around that exact answer specifically.
Greg is a One Piece columnist. He also knows the editors and Oda personally through his work and sometimes is told when to "not" include something he's mentioned because of reasons. You get the point. Stephen is the VIZ translator. APforums has some generally big people around the series.
No one tries to assume Greg knows literally everything, just that he may be privy to details that we aren't.
Greg is a One Piece columnist. He also knows the editors and Oda personally through his work and sometimes is told when to "not" include something he's mentioned because of reasons. You get the point. Stephen is the VIZ translator. APforums has some generally big people around the series.
No one tries to assume Greg knows literally everything, just that he may be privy to details that we aren't.
Artur is a massive idiot imho.
I used to think positively about him, too, but once you get to know him a bit better, it's clear that he's so full of himself.
All that while actually not knowing more than your average fan and coming up with ridiculous theories, that he defends until death and then gets salty, when they don't turn out to be true (funnily enough he's basically always wrong btw).
Worst part is his overestimation of himself.
Dude is still learning Japanese and once had the audicity to call out Stephen Paul (official translator) on his blog. Stephen deservedly schooled him for that. It was ridiculous.
Artur is an arrogant idiot imho.
That Stephen Paul incident was just madness.
I used to think positively about him, too, but once you get to know him a bit better, it's clear that he's so full of himself.
All that while actually not knowing more than your average fan and coming up with ridiculous theories, that he defends until death and then gets salty, when they don't turn out to be true (funnily enough he's basically always wrong btw).
Worst part is his overestimation of himself.
Dude is still learning Japanese and once had the audicity to call out Stephen Paul (official translator) on his blog. Stephen deservedly schooled him for that. It was ridiculous.
Artur is an arrogant idiot imho.
That Stephen Paul incident was just madness.
Artur changed his views on it btw. Here is Ohara's account of the whole thing:
Even as Ohara defends him (he didn't have to), it still comes off that Artur backpedaled. It went from "This is it: One Piece is 100% ending in 5 years" to "Ah wait, this is just my interpretation and it can be right because the wording is ambiguous, but I didn't know that until I asked my Japanese friends"
Even as Ohara defends him (he didn't have to), it still comes off that Artur backpedaled. It went from "This is it: One Piece is 100% ending in 5 years" to "Ah wait, this is just my interpretation and it can be right because the wording is ambiguous, but I didn't know that until I asked my Japanese friends"
Well I think we can mostly agree that the final war takes place after Luffy becomes PK or makes it to Raftel.
-We're already in the throne wars
-throne wars will escalate when Kaido is beaten
-Luffy makes it to Raftel, winning the throne wars
-Robin cant learn all of true history unless she gets to Raftel
You still have to consider what would cause a world wide war....what can cause the people to revolt against the WG? Only answer is Robin(and likely the Revos) revealing the true history to the world, sparking outrage.
Can all this happen in like 200 chapters? Hell no lol. Oda would have to move extra fast for it all to work unless Oda ups his off panelling game.
-We're already in the throne wars
-throne wars will escalate when Kaido is beaten
-Luffy makes it to Raftel, winning the throne wars
-Robin cant learn all of true history unless she gets to Raftel
You still have to consider what would cause a world wide war....what can cause the people to revolt against the WG? Only answer is Robin(and likely the Revos) revealing the true history to the world, sparking outrage.
Can all this happen in like 200 chapters? Hell no lol. Oda would have to move extra fast for it all to work unless Oda ups his off panelling game.
You have to think about it like this (@Van pretty much has it): Why would you, the reader, care about the allegedly HORRIBLE atrocities of the Void Century after the World Government is beaten?
That's like having Luffy defeat the WG on no motivation, then he goes to Laugh Tale to learn about all the horrible things they did.
"Oh, well I already beat them"
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You can even frame it with everything else they are supposed to find out:
- Why would you care learning about the Will of D. after Joy Boy/Roger's will already has Luffy change the world in defeating the WG?
- Why would you care learning about the function of the Ancient Weapons after they are used in Final War already anyway?
- Why would you care about finding out what One Piece is when its sole purpose seems to be the key to "challenging the world", which will have been done by that point.
See why it doesn't even make logical sense for the War to (fully) happen before Laugh Tale? Why it doesn't make sense for finding out what One Piece is at the absolute last moments of the manga?
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Greg will discuss the SBS question later (5-6 hours idk)
That's like having Luffy defeat the WG on no motivation, then he goes to Laugh Tale to learn about all the horrible things they did.
"Oh, well I already beat them"
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You can even frame it with everything else they are supposed to find out:
- Why would you care learning about the Will of D. after Joy Boy/Roger's will already has Luffy change the world in defeating the WG?
- Why would you care learning about the function of the Ancient Weapons after they are used in Final War already anyway?
- Why would you care about finding out what One Piece is when its sole purpose seems to be the key to "challenging the world", which will have been done by that point.
See why it doesn't even make logical sense for the War to (fully) happen before Laugh Tale? Why it doesn't make sense for finding out what One Piece is at the absolute last moments of the manga?
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Greg will discuss the SBS question later (5-6 hours idk)
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Possibly, but I don't even want to give Oda the benefit of the doubt. In a few more years, things will finally be clearer anyway.
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Greg talked about it:
He believes Oda means he wants the series to end here, however, the wording can be interpreted as "just this part of Luffy's story" (however Greg thinks rather its the whole thing, but Japanese words can be fun). Anyway, Greg himself goes onto say he doubts it due to
1. Pacing. Purely the fact that we are still in Wano and "that" War hasn't been initiated/set up/begun as of yet.
2. Chapter release. Frequent breaks will prevent him from getting there when he thinks (~200 chapters away)
3. Slyly tacking in another year. He said 5 years last September. He said 5 years in this volume. He just added another year lol.
4. 30th anniversary. Greg believes he won't NOT try and hit that milestone. (He may not even have a choice lol.)
5. Greg thinks the ending, from what he knows or once knew, is fairly ambitious (aka, Lots of plot/content/whatever) and doesn't think it will be achieved in a quick or swift manner.
6. Greg doesn't believe Oda is a prophet.
Anyway. I vibe with it. It all comes down to how Oda does it, or you can still reframe the argument to be made that "Luffys adventure to find One Piece is over, but that doesn't mean the story is over".
Idk, I'll slowly count down the years, and also see when the war actually starts/how it starts to properly guage if I can believe in Oda finishing when he thinks he will. If it takes us another ~40 or 50 chapters to finish Wano, then Oda brings us to Elbaf or some other unknown island next, without remotely trying to have the crew find the last RP, im going to doubt this timeline heavily.
Also, do note that Greg, being an OP columnist and someone who is relatively close to these people, has called Oda's "5 year" comment a marketing move. Take that as you will.
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Greg talked about it:
He believes Oda means he wants the series to end here, however, the wording can be interpreted as "just this part of Luffy's story" (however Greg thinks rather its the whole thing, but Japanese words can be fun). Anyway, Greg himself goes onto say he doubts it due to
1. Pacing. Purely the fact that we are still in Wano and "that" War hasn't been initiated/set up/begun as of yet.
2. Chapter release. Frequent breaks will prevent him from getting there when he thinks (~200 chapters away)
3. Slyly tacking in another year. He said 5 years last September. He said 5 years in this volume. He just added another year lol.
4. 30th anniversary. Greg believes he won't NOT try and hit that milestone. (He may not even have a choice lol.)
5. Greg thinks the ending, from what he knows or once knew, is fairly ambitious (aka, Lots of plot/content/whatever) and doesn't think it will be achieved in a quick or swift manner.
6. Greg doesn't believe Oda is a prophet.
Anyway. I vibe with it. It all comes down to how Oda does it, or you can still reframe the argument to be made that "Luffys adventure to find One Piece is over, but that doesn't mean the story is over".
Idk, I'll slowly count down the years, and also see when the war actually starts/how it starts to properly guage if I can believe in Oda finishing when he thinks he will. If it takes us another ~40 or 50 chapters to finish Wano, then Oda brings us to Elbaf or some other unknown island next, without remotely trying to have the crew find the last RP, im going to doubt this timeline heavily.
Also, do note that Greg, being an OP columnist and someone who is relatively close to these people, has called Oda's "5 year" comment a marketing move. Take that as you will.
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@Paperchampion23 does your view change based on the news we got or you still stick with your thread?
