Future Events The Structure of One Piece's Final Plotline Has Been Clear For Hundreds of Chapters
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Agreed!
It was obvious that remaining one piece story is too long to be over in 3-4 years. So, oda talking about Luffy's adventure or mysteries to be finished within this timeframe makes more sense.
Also, Luffy becoming PK would be followed by war against WG which oda made it clear when we found out Roger surrendered himself to kick start Great Pirate era because he failed to achieve something after getting one piece.
Luffy will become PK in next 3-4 years and we will learn about Void century and one piece ------> Final war between Luffy with
his alliance vs World Government
It was obvious that remaining one piece story is too long to be over in 3-4 years. So, oda talking about Luffy's adventure or mysteries to be finished within this timeframe makes more sense.
Also, Luffy becoming PK would be followed by war against WG which oda made it clear when we found out Roger surrendered himself to kick start Great Pirate era because he failed to achieve something after getting one piece.
Luffy will become PK in next 3-4 years and we will learn about Void century and one piece ------> Final war between Luffy with
his alliance vs World Government
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The core of the thread is spot on.
Whoever still believes that 1200 chapters theory (600 pre TS - 600 post TS) is just dumb at this point.
Following Egghead we have AT LEAST Elbaf, Lodestar, Laugh Tale and Final War (New Marineford + Mary Geoise..?)
Only thing I still don't know is the Shanks thing tbh, not about the alignment (I agree on that) but rather the role as final enemy.
I'm not excluding it, but not envisioning it either.
Whoever still believes that 1200 chapters theory (600 pre TS - 600 post TS) is just dumb at this point.
Following Egghead we have AT LEAST Elbaf, Lodestar, Laugh Tale and Final War (New Marineford + Mary Geoise..?)
Only thing I still don't know is the Shanks thing tbh, not about the alignment (I agree on that) but rather the role as final enemy.
I'm not excluding it, but not envisioning it either.
Imo, since this thread is 2 years old at this point, all depends on BB and Shanks' roles from now until Laugh Tale.
Ultimately, seeing BB (currently) have more focus than Shanks is...interesting if you believe that tackling him first will lead to his downfall first.
I still believe Blackbeard is the primary antagonist between now and the actual Road to LT and Pirate King, but was never meant to be the final antagonist, just the first major roadblock to PK. On that same note, I just don't see Akainu being the endgame antagonist either, just a major antagonist during the Final War.
Which leaves, personally to me, Im or Shanks. Now the former is a very obvious and I think the safer guess to make. It makes sense based on the structure Whitebeard has laid out (i.e. PK first, final war after). But what this doesn't take into account ultimately Shanks' motives, which is is why I "can" believe he might be true endgame. But yeah, this depends on Shanks' role up until Laugh Tale and what he does before or after this.
Ultimately, seeing BB (currently) have more focus than Shanks is...interesting if you believe that tackling him first will lead to his downfall first.
I still believe Blackbeard is the primary antagonist between now and the actual Road to LT and Pirate King, but was never meant to be the final antagonist, just the first major roadblock to PK. On that same note, I just don't see Akainu being the endgame antagonist either, just a major antagonist during the Final War.
Which leaves, personally to me, Im or Shanks. Now the former is a very obvious and I think the safer guess to make. It makes sense based on the structure Whitebeard has laid out (i.e. PK first, final war after). But what this doesn't take into account ultimately Shanks' motives, which is is why I "can" believe he might be true endgame. But yeah, this depends on Shanks' role up until Laugh Tale and what he does before or after this.
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Less an actual reason, moreso that it's the physical end of the GL. I doubt we'll skip it, even if it's like 10 chapters at most.
The main reason why Oda started the RP shit earlier was to not let this be unknown prior to WCI and Wano. Narratively, it makes little sense for nobody to know about the RPs until Lodestar.
The island can also have further relevance outside of that.
Imo though, yes, Fullalead and Lodestar do not "need" to happen unlike Elbaf, Laugh Tale and the Final War. Though many people didn't think "Egghead" or a Vegapunk centric arc was necessary either, and here we are lol
The main reason why Oda started the RP shit earlier was to not let this be unknown prior to WCI and Wano. Narratively, it makes little sense for nobody to know about the RPs until Lodestar.
The island can also have further relevance outside of that.
Imo though, yes, Fullalead and Lodestar do not "need" to happen unlike Elbaf, Laugh Tale and the Final War. Though many people didn't think "Egghead" or a Vegapunk centric arc was necessary either, and here we are lol
You are trying to logic your way through something that fundamentally has no answer yet lmao. Also not sure how having a Lodestar arc will double the effective time the series has left but OK. You make it seem like you know what Oda wants to actually draw and what is fundamentally "unnecessary" in your eyes.
Oda could just want to the crew to go there. Luffy could want to go there because he just wants to. No logic is needed because you think it doesn't service the story.
There COULD be story there in due time. I literally gave you examples (i.e. the 4th Road Poneglyph being there or just not found before they reach Lodestar), and you brushed it off.
If you actually want logic though, Oda has teased the island twice by name, yet never has shown it off. God Valley is similar in this regard, and that might just be shown off in a flashback.
Currently the trajectory leads them to lodestar. Even the whole scene at the end of Wano with Law, Kid and Luffy was about who'd have a head start to that island first lol.
Not sure why this bothers you.
Oda could just want to the crew to go there. Luffy could want to go there because he just wants to. No logic is needed because you think it doesn't service the story.
There COULD be story there in due time. I literally gave you examples (i.e. the 4th Road Poneglyph being there or just not found before they reach Lodestar), and you brushed it off.
If you actually want logic though, Oda has teased the island twice by name, yet never has shown it off. God Valley is similar in this regard, and that might just be shown off in a flashback.
Currently the trajectory leads them to lodestar. Even the whole scene at the end of Wano with Law, Kid and Luffy was about who'd have a head start to that island first lol.
Not sure why this bothers you.
No one should believe oda's time frame. Wano took around 3+ years to end.
Oda is even expanding egghead arc also it looks like its gonna be series of mini arcs before a major arc .
Pirate island arc
Elbaf
Lodestar
One of the island where 4th poneglyph is situated
Laughtale
I dont think Shanks is bad . Talking to Gorosei does not equate he is buddies with them . Oda will make it friendly rivalry fight between luffy and Shanks.
Shanks dropping hat to chase poneglyph gives out to me he will be one of final hurdles before luffy journeys laugh tale.
Oda is even expanding egghead arc also it looks like its gonna be series of mini arcs before a major arc .
Pirate island arc
Elbaf
Lodestar
One of the island where 4th poneglyph is situated
Laughtale
I dont think Shanks is bad . Talking to Gorosei does not equate he is buddies with them . Oda will make it friendly rivalry fight between luffy and Shanks.
Shanks dropping hat to chase poneglyph gives out to me he will be one of final hurdles before luffy journeys laugh tale.
I agree with the structure, but the problem with this mentality about Shanks/Gorosei is that there really is no logical reason to discuss really any matter with them if they are direct antagonists.
It's not at all like Sengoku's respect for Shanks, since we know Sengoku is a decent person with decent morals. We know the Gorosei blindly follow a hidden leader who gladly eliminates entire islands at a whim or enslaves groups of people.
Anyway, my personal theory that there is a level of antagonism going on with Shanks, but I don't expect everyone to believe it lol. However, I really don't see him and Luffy being in "friendly" competition. Considering there is written dialogue about Luffy wanting to physically defeat Shanks (Punk Hazard and Wano), and considering Shanks' ominous looks in regards to Luffy and meeting him, I don't think it's really friendly at all.
Just him going after One Piece already means he is an antagonist to Luffy by definition, because an Antagonist serves to hinder the protagonist. He doesn't have to be "evil", just an obstacle. Plus, we still have zero idea what Shanks' true motivations are.
It's not at all like Sengoku's respect for Shanks, since we know Sengoku is a decent person with decent morals. We know the Gorosei blindly follow a hidden leader who gladly eliminates entire islands at a whim or enslaves groups of people.
Anyway, my personal theory that there is a level of antagonism going on with Shanks, but I don't expect everyone to believe it lol. However, I really don't see him and Luffy being in "friendly" competition. Considering there is written dialogue about Luffy wanting to physically defeat Shanks (Punk Hazard and Wano), and considering Shanks' ominous looks in regards to Luffy and meeting him, I don't think it's really friendly at all.
Just him going after One Piece already means he is an antagonist to Luffy by definition, because an Antagonist serves to hinder the protagonist. He doesn't have to be "evil", just an obstacle. Plus, we still have zero idea what Shanks' true motivations are.
what about luffys first bounty? shanks was in a really good mood there, partying with mihawk ?
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i would argue that wano would took even longer, if he hadnt to match the story to film red, the extended resolution of wano would have took min. 20 chapters
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i mean its possible, oda also trimmed the whole ending of wano, the arc with the most importance, the most build up so far, its def. a possibility
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i would argue that wano would took even longer, if he hadnt to match the story to film red, the extended resolution of wano would have took min. 20 chapters
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i mean its possible, oda also trimmed the whole ending of wano, the arc with the most importance, the most build up so far, its def. a possibility
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Literally his first face has the dark shading/menacing look I'm talking about lol. Go back and read it
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Thats beside the point, read the rest of the thread and it's title. I merely used the SBS as an opening. The series is most definitely not ending the moment OP is found, considering the story has point blank told us that it will be used for something.
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We dont need those translations. We now have the official translation which directly says:
the series will end -> when I've finished drawing the most exciting part -> which is what One Piece is
the series will end -> when I've finished drawing the most exciting part -> which is what One Piece is