Chapter Discussion Are the Beasts Pirates both cooler and notably stronger than the Big Mom Pirates?

[Jo_Ndule]

Page One is seemingly one of the weaker flying six, and already proven a better tank than Oven despite having less plot relevance so far, Daifuku was never portrayed as anything superior to base Sanji either. And Compote is utterly useless. Hell, even the YC2 Smoothie is useless, meanwhile Queen already beat the shit out of the captain.

Doesn’t bode well for the Big Meme crew.

A zoan lol
Zoan are supposed to be tanky especially if you are an ancient zoan!
Yet P1 was screaming from RS Sanji kicks (no named attacks)

Queen got 2 shotted by amnesia BM
Capone lost to sane BM punches
Capone tanked more than Queen lol.

Base Sanji never shown superiority to Daifuku eirher
He never also dominated Oven since he only landed a sneak kick and ran away

Smoothie useless yet in wano,... King has done what for a "YC1' (for now he seems like YC1) ? In 50 chapters, he hasn't done much except kick a ship.
At least Smoothie isnt BM YC1 ...she can be useless but King has been a background character so far, BM only wanted him as race collection similar to brook lol.

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Not really actually, at least before Tea Party started.

While Calamities look more impressive than Sweet Commanders. Before Oda clowned the Big Mom Pirates post Tea Party, I found the Veterans to have more threatening vibes than the Flying Six.
Veterans have that First Son of Big Mom, Perospero. Then the mini Big Mom, Compote. Daifuku and Oven, the Muscular and Older Brothers Duo was also very solid.

Then Big Mom Pirates have that Enraged Army. That panel when they came to fight and capture post Cracker and Sanji fight Luffy. Then Yonji hyping them too, being led by Bobbin. While prior to this chapter, Beast Pirates mostly only have shitty designed members such as Holdem, Batman, and that Hippo guy

When Beast pirates top fighters get trashed by even weak trio ... you will come crying

Kaido Kaido Jr Jack are the only people that matters , queen has a great personality tho

You seem to Hate King but he is the one that fodderised Lig Meme and her crew.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

You seem to Hate King but he is the one that fodderised Lig Meme and her crew.

Yeah sure
I rather hate flampe than a dude who has been noexistant the whole arc, only appeared in few panels

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Yeah sure
I rather hate flampe than a dude who has been noexistant the whole arc, only appeared in few panels

He only needs 2 pages to fodderise Lig Meme and her crew.

 

[Albino 👑]

The bmp did lose the fire tanks and Fishman and maybe even bobbins and pekoms during wci. Which is a pretty big lost all together tbh but even then theyre still close

At least we don't know if they fully lost germa tech

Also the numbers seem to be the big mom pirates equivalent of the brokers. By being allies and not actual crew members. Not saying there equal in strength but usefulness maybe

 

[MarineHQ]

Oven getting trashed around was to highlight his tanky body
That's why he got run by a ship, shot by capone, kicked by Sanji (sneak attack) , ichiji (sneak attack)
...

Like I said

I dont give a damn about Beast pirates ever since WCI how Oda handled Yonko crew.

BMP most important players during WCI :
Kata /Pero /Mont D or /Oven
For BP during Wano arc, it will be : Kaido Jr, Jack , Who Who? Sasaki?

Queen fate is sealed, he's getting snack treatment soon.
King is basically background dude since his intro, even Marco/Shiryu have never been overshadowed by anyone from their crew.

You really think that a YC1 will be tossed aside just like that ?

 

[Dark Hound]

Salut

Oven getting trashed around was to highlight his tanky body
That's why he got run by a ship, shot by capone, kicked by Sanji (sneak attack) , ichiji (sneak attack)
...

Like I said

I dont give a damn about Beast pirates ever since WCI how Oda handled Yonko crew.

BMP most important players during WCI :
Kata /Pero /Mont D or /Oven
For BP during Wano arc, it will be : Kaido Jr, Jack , Who Who? Sasaki?

Queen fate is sealed, he's getting snack treatment soon.
King is basically background dude since his intro, even Marco/Shiryu have never been overshadowed by anyone from their crew.

King basically one shotted the BMPs.

Your denial is hilarious

 

[Don DaSlayer]

You really think that a YC1 will be tossed aside just like that ?

He hates the fact that that YC1 one shottted Big Mom and her crew.

 

[MarineHQ]

The Big mom pirates were absolutely stacked before WCI happened. Definitely superior to the beast pirates at that time.

- Katakuri, Smoothie, Cracker
- Jinbe, Snack
- Capone's castle defence
- veterans etc

 

[Topi Jerami]

Big Mom Pirates' lower subordinates

Enraged Army

Spoiler

Beast Pirates' lower subordinates

Spoiler

For the lower ranked ones, Beast Pirates look like utter shit. While Enraged Army looks pretty dope.

Then for the higher ups, Veterans' design >= Flying Six. Nobody in Flying Six has as much as threatening vibe as Perospero.

But then, Sweet Commanders lose badly against Calamities.
Jack vs Cracker? Lol.
Queen vs Smoothie? Lol.
King vs Katakuri? Lol.

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Big Mom Pirates' lower subordinates

Enraged Army

Spoiler

Beast Pirates' lower subordinates

Spoiler

For the lower ranked ones, Beast Pirates look like utter shit. While Enraged Army looks pretty dope.

Then for the higher ups, Veterans' design >= Flying Six. Nobody in Flying Six has as much as threatening vibe as Perospero.

But then, Sweet Commanders lose badly against Calamities.
Jack vs Cracker? Lol.
Queen vs Smoothie? Lol.
King vs Katakuri? Lol.

Who tf gets a threatening vibe from perospero.

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Big Mom Pirates' lower subordinates

Enraged Army

Spoiler

Beast Pirates' lower subordinates

Spoiler

For the lower ranked ones, Beast Pirates look like utter shit. While Enraged Army looks pretty dope.

Then for the higher ups, Veterans' design >= Flying Six. Nobody in Flying Six has as much as threatening vibe as Perospero.

But then, Sweet Commanders lose badly against Calamities.
Jack vs Cracker? Lol.
Queen vs Smoothie? Lol.
King vs Katakuri? Lol.

Chief did you forget that 95% of Big Mom childeren are fodder.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Who tf gets a threatening vibe from perospero.

Me.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Chief did you forget that 95% of Big Mom childeren are fodder.

Big Mom has 85 children. To say 95% of them are fodder, that means 81 of them are fodder, and only 4 aren't.
Bullshit detected.

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Big Mom has 85 children. To say 95% of them are fodder, that means 81 of them are fodder, and only 4 aren't.
Bullshit detected.

Kata Smoothie Pero an Cracker!

 

[Master OF Haki]

No! The only design that I can call beastly is Jack's design, and he also the only beast pirate that acts as a true beast.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Kata Smoothie Pero an Cracker!

Oven
Daifuku
Snack
Amande
Mont Dor

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Oven
Daifuku
Snack
Amande
Mont Dor

fodder Rs sanji and enma Zoro can low diff all of them!

 

[Topi Jerami]

fodder Rs sanji and enma Zoro can low diff all of them!

Page One, the Veteran equivalent for Beasts, was seen healthy after fighting RS Sanji.
Yet now he can low diff Oven or Daifuku?

 

[Guan Yu]

Kaido > BM
Calamities > SC
Tobbi Roppo > Veterans