Speculations Suke Suke no Mi, inspired by Hokuto No Ken, is a special devil fruit
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Yes, they are Awakened, it's just Readers expect everyone to shout "This is my Awakening! As if it's Bankai"
As I said Dozens of Characters showed Awakening, it's just that no one talks about it cuz it's something every Veteran knows, Oda simply made Doflamingo say it cuz it was time to let Fans realize it's existence, that's all
As I said Dozens of Characters showed Awakening, it's just that no one talks about it cuz it's something every Veteran knows, Oda simply made Doflamingo say it cuz it was time to let Fans realize it's existence, that's all
invisibility isn't as easy to counter as the fandom thinks
Both Sanji and Queen are haki users. Sanji is even a CoO specialist. None were able to simply use CoO to instantly detect the other when they went invisible. Queen outright didn't even try to detect sanji, whereas Sanji waited for Queen to move and cause the floorboards to creak.
Kaido's awakening= buff hybrid form and flame dragon form
Big Mom's awakening = weather manipulation
Both Sanji and Queen are haki users. Sanji is even a CoO specialist. None were able to simply use CoO to instantly detect the other when they went invisible. Queen outright didn't even try to detect sanji, whereas Sanji waited for Queen to move and cause the floorboards to creak.
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Kaido's awakening= buff hybrid form and flame dragon form
Big Mom's awakening = weather manipulation
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Suke Suke no Mi is underwhelming
Many people consider suke suke no mi to be one of the most useless devil fruits and its hard to disagree with them. We already saw its weakness when Absalom used it:
On top, the idea of CoO wasnt introduced when Absalom used this fruit. Imagine Absalom fighting someone with basic CoO let alone FS.
Suke Suke No Mi's awakening: Nothingness
It doesnt make sense for an end game opponent to have a useless power. Shiryu believes he got a very nice power for himself =>
There is a theory floating around that Shiryu will awaken his devil fruit and it will turn him into nothingness. The idea originated from Koshiro flashback during Mr. 1 fight where the "ability to cut NOTHING" was mentioned three times (Please check the Stephen Paul's translation, ViZ translation was garbage).
Blackbeard and Suke Suke no mi
The theory of nothingness is cool, but I didnt pay much attention initially. Then some intriguing information came to my attention:
(1) In Ace Novel, Volume 2, Chapter 5, Thatch claims that Blackbeard wants to eat the Suke Suke no Mi. Out of all the fruits in the series, why did Thatch think Teach wants the Suke Suke no Mi?
I dont usually pay attention to novels as they are not written by Oda. For example, this volume was written by Tatsuya Hamazaki. But what makes this interesting is, a member of the Blackbeard pirates eventually gets the Suke Suke no mi. This Ace volume was released five months before chapter 925, where Shiryu shows his suke suke no mi powers. This cant be a coincidence. There is a possibility that Oda passed this information to Tatsuya.
(2) From databook Green (the only databook completely supervised by Oda), Blackbeard was originally named Everything D. Teach
(3) In chapter 577, Blackbeard says, Yami Yami no mi turns everything to nothingness
Connecting all these dots, is it possible Oda originally planned suke suke no mi for Blackbeard where the pirate Everything D. Teach was supposed to turn himself into nothingness? If that is true, then the suke suke no mi has to be a very special fruit that was reserved for the most important antagonist in the series.
Inspiration for "Nothingness": Hokuto No Ken
Hokuto No Ken or the Fist of the North Star is an 80s manga that inspired many famous mangakas. The protagonist Kenshiro is known for his iconic phrase "omae wa mou shindeiru" or "you are already dead". Oda recently paid homage to Hokuto No Ken through Queen =>
This is not the first time Oda referenced Hokuto No Ken. Back in chapter 72 SBS =>
The ultimate technique of Kenshiro is called Musō Tensei. This technique allows the user to achieve a state of "nothingness", impervious to attacks. Kenshiro could harness the techniques of his fallen comrades. He can glide through air and space. It comes from the same principle as Ultra Instinct of Dragon Ball. Musō Tensei is so broken that the only way to counter it was to extremely distort the space and time.
Shiryu turning into nothingness will be another homage to Hokuto No Ken. Imagine Shiryu with abilities similar to Musō Tensei.
How broken Shiryu will be?
Some tags: @Garp the Fist @Celestial D. Dragon @Bogard @HeroesNZ @Buggy D Clown
Shiryu Downplayers: @ZenZu @Seth
Zenzu's number 1 fan: @Gol D. Roger
Blackbeard gang: @Blackbeard @Erkan12 @Reborn
Real Shiryu cheerleader: @HA001 OF THE RAIN
Fake Shiryu cheerleader: @TheAncientCenturion
Many people consider suke suke no mi to be one of the most useless devil fruits and its hard to disagree with them. We already saw its weakness when Absalom used it:
On top, the idea of CoO wasnt introduced when Absalom used this fruit. Imagine Absalom fighting someone with basic CoO let alone FS.
Suke Suke No Mi's awakening: Nothingness
It doesnt make sense for an end game opponent to have a useless power. Shiryu believes he got a very nice power for himself =>
There is a theory floating around that Shiryu will awaken his devil fruit and it will turn him into nothingness. The idea originated from Koshiro flashback during Mr. 1 fight where the "ability to cut NOTHING" was mentioned three times (Please check the Stephen Paul's translation, ViZ translation was garbage).
Blackbeard and Suke Suke no mi
The theory of nothingness is cool, but I didnt pay much attention initially. Then some intriguing information came to my attention:
(1) In Ace Novel, Volume 2, Chapter 5, Thatch claims that Blackbeard wants to eat the Suke Suke no Mi. Out of all the fruits in the series, why did Thatch think Teach wants the Suke Suke no Mi?
I dont usually pay attention to novels as they are not written by Oda. For example, this volume was written by Tatsuya Hamazaki. But what makes this interesting is, a member of the Blackbeard pirates eventually gets the Suke Suke no mi. This Ace volume was released five months before chapter 925, where Shiryu shows his suke suke no mi powers. This cant be a coincidence. There is a possibility that Oda passed this information to Tatsuya.
(2) From databook Green (the only databook completely supervised by Oda), Blackbeard was originally named Everything D. Teach
(3) In chapter 577, Blackbeard says, Yami Yami no mi turns everything to nothingness
Connecting all these dots, is it possible Oda originally planned suke suke no mi for Blackbeard where the pirate Everything D. Teach was supposed to turn himself into nothingness? If that is true, then the suke suke no mi has to be a very special fruit that was reserved for the most important antagonist in the series.
Inspiration for "Nothingness": Hokuto No Ken
Hokuto No Ken or the Fist of the North Star is an 80s manga that inspired many famous mangakas. The protagonist Kenshiro is known for his iconic phrase "omae wa mou shindeiru" or "you are already dead". Oda recently paid homage to Hokuto No Ken through Queen =>
This is not the first time Oda referenced Hokuto No Ken. Back in chapter 72 SBS =>
The ultimate technique of Kenshiro is called Musō Tensei. This technique allows the user to achieve a state of "nothingness", impervious to attacks. Kenshiro could harness the techniques of his fallen comrades. He can glide through air and space. It comes from the same principle as Ultra Instinct of Dragon Ball. Musō Tensei is so broken that the only way to counter it was to extremely distort the space and time.
Shiryu turning into nothingness will be another homage to Hokuto No Ken. Imagine Shiryu with abilities similar to Musō Tensei.
How broken Shiryu will be?
Some tags: @Garp the Fist @Celestial D. Dragon @Bogard @HeroesNZ @Buggy D Clown
Shiryu Downplayers: @ZenZu @Seth
Zenzu's number 1 fan: @Gol D. Roger
Blackbeard gang: @Blackbeard @Erkan12 @Reborn
Real Shiryu cheerleader: @HA001 OF THE RAIN
Fake Shiryu cheerleader: @TheAncientCenturion
Although I like the theory.
Well, Shiryu is special among the Blackbeard pirates, so it makes sense why he got a special fruit.
- Out of all the Blackbeard pirates, only Shiryu got a silhouette even before his intro =>
- Shiryu is the only member we saw Blackbeard inviting and recruiting on panel at Impel Down. The rest of the crew didnt get such a buildup.
- Then we get the tidbit that Shiryu is the 2nd ship captain of Blackbeard pirates paralleling him to the 2nd division commander of Whitebeard, Oden
- In chapter 925, we got Blackbeard's bounty and Devon's devil fruit. But the biggest reveal in that chapter was Shiryu getting the suke suke no mi
Oda is building up this antagonist carefully in parallel with Blackbeard.
When did I say pre skip Shiryu = admiral? I said =>
Werent Magellan and pre-skip Shiryu closer to admirals than the likes of Katakuri and King?
- Out of all the Blackbeard pirates, only Shiryu got a silhouette even before his intro =>
- Then we get the tidbit that Shiryu is the 2nd ship captain of Blackbeard pirates paralleling him to the 2nd division commander of Whitebeard, Oden
- In chapter 925, we got Blackbeard's bounty and Devon's devil fruit. But the biggest reveal in that chapter was Shiryu getting the suke suke no mi
Oda is building up this antagonist carefully in parallel with Blackbeard.
When did I say pre skip Shiryu = admiral? I said =>
Werent Magellan and pre-skip Shiryu closer to admirals than the likes of Katakuri and King?
Well, Shiryu is special among the Blackbeard pirates, so it makes sense why he got a special fruit.
- Out of all the Blackbeard pirates, only Shiryu got a silhouette even before his intro =>
- Shiryu is the only member we saw Blackbeard inviting and recruiting on panel at Impel Down. The rest of the crew didnt get such a buildup.
- Then we get the tidbit that Shiryu is the 2nd ship captain of Blackbeard pirates paralleling him to the 2nd division commander of Whitebeard, Oden
- In chapter 925, we got Blackbeard's bounty and Devon's devil fruit. But the biggest reveal in that chapter was Shiryu getting the suke suke no mi
Oda is building up this antagonist carefully in parallel with Blackbeard.
When did I say pre skip Shiryu = admiral? I said =>
Werent Magellan and pre-skip Shiryu closer to admirals than the likes of Katakuri and King?
- Out of all the Blackbeard pirates, only Shiryu got a silhouette even before his intro =>
- Then we get the tidbit that Shiryu is the 2nd ship captain of Blackbeard pirates paralleling him to the 2nd division commander of Whitebeard, Oden
- In chapter 925, we got Blackbeard's bounty and Devon's devil fruit. But the biggest reveal in that chapter was Shiryu getting the suke suke no mi
Oda is building up this antagonist carefully in parallel with Blackbeard.
When did I say pre skip Shiryu = admiral? I said =>
Werent Magellan and pre-skip Shiryu closer to admirals than the likes of Katakuri and King?
Point 2:- Does that really make him special. I guess compared to the Impel Down recruits....but not the original crew tho.
Point 3:- Nope he parralels Ace, Queen, Roo, etc.
Point 4:- Literally was not the biggest reveal. You making stuff up now
You never talked about individual potrayal before. BBPs habe always moved as a unit. And im pretty sure Blackbeard himself has got many himself. And who needs your own silhoutte when you literally played as an antagonist for an arc and fought the YC1 of the Revos.
He parralels Ace in that case. The YC2 that joined before Shiryu was Laffite.
Ace was near as strong as BB pre timeskip and used to be his leader, so he sees him as a rival/near equal. So thats even better for Burgess.
Theirs a difference when its the strength of Ace or the heiarchy of Ace. Shiryu is heiarchially in Ace's position.
He parralels Ace in that case. The YC2 that joined before Shiryu was Laffite.
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Burgess parallels Ace
Theirs a difference when its the strength of Ace or the heiarchy of Ace. Shiryu is heiarchially in Ace's position.