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Yes he did.I will google the correct quote.I didn't lie.Just stated the correct expression of human sexuality to be between man and woman.
https://www.crossway.org/articles/what-does-jesus-think-about-homosexuality/
https://www.esv.org/verses/Matt. 5:28; 15:19/
https://www.esv.org/verses/Genesis 2:24/
https://www.esv.org/verses/Matt. 19:5/
https://www.esv.org/verses/Mark 10:7–8/
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There are translation issues and some non-catholic christians don't accept certain books as cannon.Obey the 10 commandements and search up what Jesus himself said and you will be fine.
Also,check out @Udell thread about heaven and stuff.We discuss religion there.This is a politics thread.
No thanks. I‘m not all that interested in religion. I just wanted to point out a historical fact which people tend to overlook and don‘t put into the equation since religion was heavily used as a political tool in the past.
 



There's clear biblical narrative against the homosexual. This is reaffirmed by all creed and Christians theologians view throughout the Centuries. It's one the most consistent stance over all denomination


As you probably know, in modern times people took the revisionists approach of all religions and their issues on certain positions to keep the line with liberal humanism but this approach gain heavy polemics, massive debates and in many ways unorthodox approach to how the texts is being interpreted
yes,they want to seculiraze the church and incorporate marxism/left wing bullshido into it.Society that needs to go back to tradition,its not tradition that needs to change.Well,Brazil is a Christian country,there also lots of gay people here.The Church sticks to tradition and so do most people.
 
No thanks. I‘m not all that interested in religion. I just wanted to point out a historical fact which people tend to overlook and don‘t put into the equation since religion was heavily used as a political tool in the past.
But of course it is,life is religion and it is also politics.States might be separated from religion now.But the people are not(at least outside of Europe).So society has its norms,despite what the state claims to be the law.Homosexuality is frowned upon by popular culture in Brazil.I will say this again,if any christian bad mouths,cheats or uses violence against someon because of their sexuality,they are sinning.Period.That is not what Jesus preached.
 
There's clear biblical narrative against the homosexual. This is reaffirmed by all creed and Christians theologians view throughout the Centuries. It's one the most consistent stance over all denomination
Important to note that story is from Old Testament which isn't Christianity per say but it is the part of Bible church likes to use to keep people in line
 

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yes,they want to seculiraze the church and incorporate marxism/left wing bullshido into it.Society that needs to go back to tradition,its not tradition that needs to change.Well,Brazil is a Christian country,there also lots of gay people here.The Church sticks to tradition and so do most people.
I'd probably try to make both the Secularist/Atheist and Religious reconcile and moderate their position on contentious issues without each other forcing moral high ground on the other

But yeah, the revisionist approach is secularizing people and over time people just threw the faith away or make it very insignificant. If you're religious person that's probably not your interests

Also it's in many ways faulty too.

If You're saying Homosexual is right then you probably gonna argue Christians got it wrong for 2 millennium and now you suddenly got it right
 
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The core of Christianity is forgiveness, love and peace. The push against homosexuality was started by Church officials in the Middle Ages because they needed people to have kids, so they had enough soldiers for their wars. Giving birth was difficult enough back then for commoners, so homosexuality would have only reduced the birth rates further which they didn‘t want. Please consider WHEN something was written. The first translated versions of the Bible were published in the late Middle Ages and the texts have been in the hands of the Clerus which was made of Aristocrats who didn‘t get mundane power for a very long time, so they‘re obviously filled with their agendas and no longer the original texts.
Bible is made out of two parts.

Old Testament which is events before Jesus - a lot of Judaism and a lot of what would become Muslim religion

New Testament which is events during and post Jesus - this in essence is what Christianity should be

And it was in early years, then as politics progressed church was adopted as a way to control masses more and more. It caused A LOT of division and internal struggles.

Wheres Jesus was preaching liberty, love, acceptance, respect in New Testament, Old Testament was all about control and conservatism - which suits rulers of ancient times more.

First split of Christianity was between Catholicism and Orthodoxy - because one believed Church isn't what it is supposed to be

Second split of Christianity was between Protestants and Catholics - because protestants believed Church is too corrupt (which it was and still is)

Catholic Church now - and mind you i was raised in strict catholic house - Is very corrupt and very anti Jesus while pro old Testament. Hell Jesus said being wealthy is fine as long as you give portion of wealth to those in need - guess which organization doesn't pay taxes, is insanely wealthy and used to sell church positions for money while also forcing people to pay money for sins to be forgiven

Hence why you can't say Church is Jesus while you can say Jesus is the Church



There's clear biblical narrative against the homosexual. This is reaffirmed by all creed and Christians theologians view throughout the Centuries. It's one the most consistent stance over all denomination


As you probably know, in modern times people took the revisionists approach of all religions and their issues on certain positions to keep the line with liberal humanism but this approach gain heavy polemics, massive debates and in many ways unorthodox approach to how the texts is being interpreted
The Catholic church was the most powerful and influential organization for centuries. They made up plenty of things like the circles of hell to scare the populace and maintain power. Never underestimate the greed and fear of humans.
That's why orthodox Christian church is the best.
Okay thanks for the explanation.


I understood few things

Catholic Church is orthodox and based on Old Testament which was written prior to Jesus was born

Protestants are based on New Testament and follows the teachings of Jesus.

Catholic Church goes against homosexuals but Protestants don't as Jesus never talked about it.




Don't want to meddle between these two groups but why follow what Church says when the one whom you treat as God - Jesus advocate something opposite? Why not go with what your God says?
 
Don't want to meddle between these two groups but why follow what Church says when the one whom you treat as God - Jesus advocate something opposite? Why not go with what your God says?
Deep rooted institutionalism

Church is very powerful organisation. Like really powerful.

In essence if you are of Christian faith you should follow Jesus cause he is the founder of the Religion
 
You meant catholic right?
Currently there are 3 types of Christianity

Catholicism - Italy, Spain, Brazil, Argentina, Croatia, Slovenia, South Germany, France, Portugal

Orthodoxy - Ukraine, Serbia, Russia, Bulgaria, Greece

Protestant - North Germany, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, UK, i think Nethersland too not sure
 
Okay thanks for the explanation.


I understood few things

Catholic Church is orthodox and based on Old Testament which was written prior to Jesus was born

Protestants are based on New Testament and follows the teachings of Jesus.

Catholic Church goes against homosexuals but Protestants don't as Jesus never talked about it.




Don't want to meddle between these two groups but why follow what Church says when the one whom you treat as God - Jesus advocate something opposite? Why not go with what your God says?
Because in the Middle Ages at least the Bible was written in Latin which the common folk couldn‘t understand. Only the Church and Nobles could, so the normal people could only take their word for it. But one day Martin Luther translated the Bible into English and German, so normal citizens could read it.
 
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