Powers & Abilities Why Zoro has two advanced Hakis and Sanji doesn't even have one?

[Buggy D Clown]

Katakuri couldn't see Sanji dodging him in the future that he saw

If shot the jelly bean, it is because he knew it was going to be effective. Thats the whole logic behind the jelly bean being shoot right after Katakuri realized Sanji was going to dodge the priest.

He still missed, then Sanji glared at him exactly as someone who knew what was going to happen.

Want me to repeat or somethin? Maybe im typing in chinese or somethin

No he shot the jelly because he saw the priest miss so he changed that future by throwing the jelly bean. He didnt look into the future beyond the priest thing. What you are claiming doesn't even make sense with how FS works.

You are typing nonsense so no don't repeat anything and actually say something that makes sense

 

[faker]

Why can Sanji still defeat enemies similar to Zoro's opponents without these?

 

[Buggy D Clown]

Why can Sanji still defeat enemies similar to Zoro's opponents without these?

He can't

 

[faker]

He can't

He's done it

 

[pg13]

It always perplexes me for such strength rivals and Chicken Wings

Oda has made it terribly hard to imagine the equality.

Zoro first got Ryou and started launching Haki waves and controlling his Ryou by regulating the flow, fighting against Enma's own pull of his Ryou and shit

Then he showed HUGE ASS BARRIER HAKI

Then he unlocked Advanced Version of Haki that isn't even his specialty

Then he showed even CoC Based Barrier

Mean while Sanji hasn't even show Advanced CoO?
Instead he's just judge's sperm awakening and shit like that??

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I don't even think Sanji is a character who needs Haki to be powerful at this point. Before the exoskeleton maybe but after 1028 I don't see why Oda would bother giving Sanji advanced haki when Kizaru, Greenbull and Fujitora have not shown one ounce of haki.

 

[HA001]

He's done it

No he hasn't.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Kizaru

He has shown Advanced CoA

Greenbull

Black Blade

Fujitora

Advanced CoO

 

[pg13]

He has shown Advanced CoA

Black Blade


Advanced CoO

Your reaching with the Blackblade thing, we'll have to see what it looks like in a color-spread, digitally colored manga or anime. Kizaru has it but we've never seen him use it in actual battle kind of like how Kidd has conquerors but never actually uses it when he fights...... Fujitoras Observation haki again, not used in combat at all from what we've seen. I think you a lot of you guys in this forum don't realize there are very few characters in One Piece who actually use their haki when they fight.

 

[Blazing Lion]

Oda went a different route with Sanji. Zoro and Luffy needed these advanced hakis because they are aiming for the strongest, one has a mythical df and the other has 21 grade swords. Giving Sanji haki based fighting style would just put him against Luffy and Zoro which was never Odas intention. Sanji has haki and very good CoO (FS debatable) just so he can deal with df guys and it is sort of essential to fight in the New World.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Zoro doesn’t have invisibility speed
Zoro can’t fly
Zoro can’t heal broken bones
Zoro can’t use blue flames and lightning

And he's what Zoro has:

The reactions to cut people moving at invisible speeds;​

enough skills to fight and beat people that are better at flying than Sanji;​

can break bones to the point of no return with his attacks;​

has the ability to cut fire and use black lightning.​

With that being said, Zoro has an answer to anything thrown at him by Sanji while Sanji can't even compete with Zoro's CoA, forget about his CoC. In the worst-case scenario, Zoro can take Sanji's attacks, endure them, and force his way to victory. There is a reason why Sanji is so convinced Zoro makes his death wish come true even if he loses his mind.

On a side note: Zoro had blue flames way before it was cool. Sanji's lightning isn't actually a different lightning-like effect. It's his blue flames taking the shape of lightning—it's not a separate element.

 

[comrade]

Not to mention advanced CoO, sensing inanimate objects (breath of all things), later facing an invisible swordsman who might be able to escape usual CoO sensory through awakening by becoming emptiness.

 

[CbShadow]

But it's not lightning.

I might as well say....hey Sanji's ifrit Jambe looks like AdvCoC. So hahaha he has something even better than AdvCoC. Its sounds desperate.

Zoro doesnt have flames nor lightning.

Sanji doesn't have lightning either. Until proven otherwise that is a lighting-like effect. That type of stuff is common in OP. We have never heard anybody say that that was actually lightning or he can create plasma some believe. It's still fire.

What do you mean Zoro doesn't have flames. Zoro has possessed a technique that create flames since pre TS.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

When will zorofans understand that haki isn't the only power in one piece, sanji can defeat a commender without any special haki just shows u can be how strong oda wants you too.

Nooooo you cant be strong without an advanced haki only zoro and luffy has it wooowww

Umm because that commander is dog shit who Dressrosa Zoro mid diffs at worst??

 

[Peroroncino]

Because oda wanted to separate their power sets?
Why can’t Zoro break swords with his skin?
Why can’t Zoro turn invisible?
Why can’t Zoro use ifrit jambe?

It’s a powerset thing.

cause zoro is not a lab rat, but everyone can use haki so why can't use sanji use their adv versions?

 

[Herrera95]

First of all Zoro learned Eyou back at Alabasta.

Second, Ryou and/or Barrier Haki is not advanced armament. Internal Damage is. And we are not sure how it works with blades to say if Zoro has it or not.

I don't know why fandom invents so many terms out of their head that were never told in manga. CoC barrier?

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Because oda wanted to separate their power sets?

Why can’t Zoro break swords with his skin?

Why can’t Zoro turn invisible?

Why can’t Zoro use ifrit jambe?



It’s a powerset thing.

Why can't Sanji cut water

Why can't Sanji cut Fire

Why can't Sanjis blue flames burn people into crisp like Zoros

Why can't Sanji produce a tornado or cuts where each cut is stronger than Sanjis strongest infrit Jambe attack



Don't give me this bullshit

Zoro's arsenal is already more variable than Sanji. Everything he showed up till Dressrosa is enough for Zoro to counter every single thing Sanji has.



Zoro has gotten God Tier abilities..the bread and butter of One Piece top tier power set and Sanji has become just a lab rat

 

[Herrera95]

When will zorofans understand that haki isn't the only power in one piece, sanji can defeat a commender without any special haki just shows u can be how strong oda wants you too.

Nooooo you cant be strong without an advanced haki only zoro and luffy has it wooowww

Sanji literally said his armament training helped him with IF.

 

[Peenix]

He has the ability and he already used it nore than once, thats the difference

Unless they SAY he has it, then he doesn’t have it

“B-b-but this one time he dodged a jellybean”
Nope

 

[Soyz]

And he's what Zoro has:

The reactions to cut people moving at invisible speeds;​

enough skills to fight and beat people that are better at flying than Sanji;​

can break bones to the point of no return with his attacks;​

has the ability to cut fire and use black lightning.​

With that being said, Zoro has an answer to anything thrown at him by Sanji while Sanji can't even compete with Zoro's CoA, forget about his CoC. In the worst-case scenario, Zoro can take Sanji's attacks, endure them, and force his way to victory. There is a reason why Sanji is so convinced Zoro makes his death wish come true even if he loses his mind.

On a side note: Zoro had blue flames way before it was cool. Sanji's lightning isn't actually a different lightning-like effect. It's his blue flames taking the shape of lightning—it's not a separate element.

the fanboyism is reeking from you, all he said is things that sanji have and zoro dont no need to get pressed and write a post

 

[ShishioIsBack]

the fanboyism is reeking from you, all he said is things that sanji have and zoro dont no need to get pressed and write a post

He was literally being nice as fuck to Sanji and being anti Zoro with that post

Zoro has shown a lot more remarkable abilities by Dressrosa than Sanji has up till now.

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The point here isn't what Sanji dodged, but the fact he saw a future which Katakuri couldn't see

Its like saying Zoro saw the future that Kaido didn't when he used Tatsumaki lmao































































































































































































































































Sanji literally just dodged a slow ass fodder move.































































































































Katakuri used future sight to predict one event of the future which was s..anji being fast enough to dodge a move from one of the fodder. To remedy that he used jelly bean which in his mind was faster than move from a fodder.







He never bothered looking into second event of future where whether or not sanji will dodge jelly bean