Powers & Abilities Why Zoro has two advanced Hakis and Sanji doesn't even have one?
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Chapter 882 [pre Merienda]
"I've never had someone avoid so many of my attacks. It's stressful."
All of this when Luffy had nothing other than basic CoO, same as anyone else.
Chapter 886 [post Merienda]
Luffy first expresses his desire to also see a bit into the future and says he will surpass the Billion Berry man at his best.
Chapter 891 [post Merienda]
Luffy starts seeing into the Future a bit.
Doesn't change the fact that Luffy was already stressing out Katakuri by dodging his offense, even when he had nothing but basic CoO.
All of this was before chapter 883 which is where Merienda happens.
Chapter 882 [pre Merienda]
"I've never had someone avoid so many of my attacks. It's stressful."
All of this when Luffy had nothing other than basic CoO, same as anyone else.
Chapter 886 [post Merienda]
Luffy first expresses his desire to also see a bit into the future and says he will surpass the Billion Berry man at his best.
Chapter 891 [post Merienda]
Luffy starts seeing into the Future a bit.
Doesn't change the fact that Luffy was already stressing out Katakuri by dodging his offense, even when he had nothing but basic CoO.
Luffy getting out of the mirror world and thinking more carefully about Katakuri's powers and bringing up Rayleigh's lessons doesn't proves me wrong at all.
"I've never had someone avoid so many of my attacks. It's stressful."
"Yes, it's true... Very infrequently he sees the same future that i do!!"
As i said, he was already acknowledging it
Im still trying to get where does this proves me wrong about the Sanji/jelly bean scene
"Otherwise fatal"
A)Queen lasered himself, Sanji's body had broken bones he didn't die
B)Zoro would kill Sanji with Dressrosa level CoA much less Roof top.
Sanji's body is still fragile enough to bleed like a bitch from getting rammed against the wall by Queen. No way in hell is he not getting put down by Dressrosa mountain buster from Zoro.
A)Queen lasered himself, Sanji's body had broken bones he didn't die
B)Zoro would kill Sanji with Dressrosa level CoA much less Roof top.
Sanji's body is still fragile enough to bleed like a bitch from getting rammed against the wall by Queen. No way in hell is he not getting put down by Dressrosa mountain buster from Zoro.
Luffy doesn't even see the future in the first panel where Katakuri said he was stressing him out.
He even wonders whether he can do that in a later panel.
He barely started seeing the future later on and that's when Katakuri acknowledges that.
He dodged a good chunk of Katakuri's attacks and stressed him out when he couldn't even see the future lmao. Why does Sanji need to see the future to dodge a Jelly Bean when Luffy's dodging Mogura without it?
He even wonders whether he can do that in a later panel.
He barely started seeing the future later on and that's when Katakuri acknowledges that.
He dodged a good chunk of Katakuri's attacks and stressed him out when he couldn't even see the future lmao. Why does Sanji need to see the future to dodge a Jelly Bean when Luffy's dodging Mogura without it?
You can't make this shit up guys
We literally read out and narrated the fucking manga to this guy in every way possible
I did it
@Buggy D Clown did
@Luffy is the mc did it
And he still asks where is wrong.
I am genuinely intrigued by neurological pattern of an average Sanji to have this level of unending delusion towards a fictional story.
Like how can someone with functional mental capacity think like that, its like the most basic of logics man.
It is as easy as understand
If you grab one apple
then you grab another apple
Now you have two apples
Fuck man
Get it together dude.
We literally read out and narrated the fucking manga to this guy in every way possible
I did it
@Buggy D Clown did
@Luffy is the mc did it
And he still asks where is wrong.
I am genuinely intrigued by neurological pattern of an average Sanji to have this level of unending delusion towards a fictional story.
Like how can someone with functional mental capacity think like that, its like the most basic of logics man.
It is as easy as understand
If you grab one apple
then you grab another apple
Now you have two apples
Fuck man
Get it together dude.
Setting his broken bones together =/= Complete regeneration like Marco's fruit lol.
If his body gets wrecked he can set it together later on. Like how Yonji set his face together after getting wrecked by Sanji.
It doesn't give him complete recovery lol. Like the damage is still taken.
And Zoro sure as shit doesn't need CoC to damage Sanji when Queen's Winch and a couple of walls was doing it.
If his body gets wrecked he can set it together later on. Like how Yonji set his face together after getting wrecked by Sanji.
It doesn't give him complete recovery lol. Like the damage is still taken.
And Zoro sure as shit doesn't need CoC to damage Sanji when Queen's Winch and a couple of walls was doing it.
Let me show you what actually damaged Sanji
If you think a guy who can cut 100s Shells harder than steel with simple Tornado, can behead a Dragon undamaged by Luffy's Haki, obliterate a mountain and a man coated in Full Body Haki can't damage and kill the guy damaged by rammed against a fucking wall.
A fucking wall, no Haki, no special moves, you are genuinely damaged goods and need proper reading comprehension lessons
If you think a guy who can cut 100s Shells harder than steel with simple Tornado, can behead a Dragon undamaged by Luffy's Haki, obliterate a mountain and a man coated in Full Body Haki can't damage and kill the guy damaged by rammed against a fucking wall.
A fucking wall, no Haki, no special moves, you are genuinely damaged goods and need proper reading comprehension lessons
Bro that named fodder from Capone's crew blocked it. It's completely reactable to everyone above complete trash level.
Even if Julius somehow managed to show some FS nonsense(which he can't because its clear to everyone but him what was shown in the manga), it's still a fodder move. No amount of FS would make a jelly bean undodgeable for a Veteren level character. He is arguing a completely losing point
Even if Julius somehow managed to show some FS nonsense(which he can't because its clear to everyone but him what was shown in the manga), it's still a fodder move. No amount of FS would make a jelly bean undodgeable for a Veteren level character. He is arguing a completely losing point
You can't make this shit up guys
We literally read out and narrated the fucking manga to this guy in every way possible
I did it
@Buggy D Clown did
@Luffy is the mc did it
And he still asks where is wrong.
I am genuinely intrigued by neurological pattern of an average Sanji to have this level of unending delusion towards a fictional story.
Like how can someone with functional mental capacity think like that, its like the most basic of logics man.
It is as easy as understand
If you grab one apple
then you grab another apple
Now you have two apples
Fuck man
Get it together dude.
We literally read out and narrated the fucking manga to this guy in every way possible
I did it
@Buggy D Clown did
@Luffy is the mc did it
And he still asks where is wrong.
I am genuinely intrigued by neurological pattern of an average Sanji to have this level of unending delusion towards a fictional story.
Like how can someone with functional mental capacity think like that, its like the most basic of logics man.
It is as easy as understand
If you grab one apple
then you grab another apple
Now you have two apples
Fuck man
Get it together dude.
Stop trying to play dumb and trying to look unbiased Shishio, please
Simple, Sanji's scene was straight up focused in the fact that Katakuri specifically saw the future and acted to make sure Sanji was going to get hit.
This goes back to what im saying in my past 10 comments: Katakuri getting countered means he is getting countered. Luffy countered Katakuri by improving his Observation throughout the fight, that was the only way to do it, unless you have speed + a tricky movement, like Luffy needed by coming up with the Snakeman form, on top of the future sight, that was still not as a good as Katakuri's.
He didn't need to say "Well this guy is going to dodge the priest's shot, so i need a vertical angle of 42 degrees with an air speed of 10 meters per second to the west so i can hit that guy" "Oh shit, i missed". This didn't happened even once
Every single time Katakuri stopped to properly see a sequence of events in the future, he either:
- Managed to prevent it from happening somehow
- Was stopped from preventing it from happening because of other character's interference, but the event still happened in a way or another.
What you guys are trying to tell here is that this whole logic changed when the priest/jelly bean scene happened
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Stop trying to play dumb and trying to look unbiased Shishio, please
Simple, Sanji's scene was straight up focused in the fact that Katakuri specifically saw the future and acted to make sure Sanji was going to get hit.
This goes back to what im saying in my past 10 comments: Katakuri getting countered means he is getting countered. Luffy countered Katakuri by improving his Observation throughout the fight, that was the only way to do it, unless you're have speed + a tricky movement, like Luffy needed by coming up with the Snakeman form.
He didn't need to say "Well this guy is going to dodge the priest's shot, so i need a vertical angle of 42 degrees with an air speed of 10 meters per second to the west so i can hit that guy" "Oh shit, i missed". This didn't happened even once
Every single time Katakuri stopped to properly see a sequence of events in the future, he either:
- Managed to prevent it from happening somehow
- Was stopped from preventing it from happening because of other character's interference, but the event still happened in a way or another.
What you guys are trying to tell here is that this whole logic changed with the jelly bean scene happened
Simple, Sanji's scene was straight up focused in the fact that Katakuri specifically saw the future and acted to make sure Sanji was going to get hit.
This goes back to what im saying in my past 10 comments: Katakuri getting countered means he is getting countered. Luffy countered Katakuri by improving his Observation throughout the fight, that was the only way to do it, unless you're have speed + a tricky movement, like Luffy needed by coming up with the Snakeman form.
He didn't need to say "Well this guy is going to dodge the priest's shot, so i need a vertical angle of 42 degrees with an air speed of 10 meters per second to the west so i can hit that guy" "Oh shit, i missed". This didn't happened even once
Every single time Katakuri stopped to properly see a sequence of events in the future, he either:
- Managed to prevent it from happening somehow
- Was stopped from preventing it from happening because of other character's interference, but the event still happened in a way or another.
What you guys are trying to tell here is that this whole logic changed with the jelly bean scene happened
Did he use Future Sight himself or he shat on Katakuri's future sight?
What exactly happened according to your interpretation?
These two are not true lol. Please re-read that arc.
As i've been repeating 3x now, Luffy was stressing Katakuri by dodging even before he started improving his observation. He could never hit Katakuri but he could dodge a lot of his offense, that's how he was stressing him out & that was even before he understood Katakuri's powers fully.
You don't need to see the future, to dodge an attack aimed at you.
Luffy needed to improve his observation to surpass Katakuri and to effectively start hitting him.
He was dodging Mogura Thrusts with the same basic CoO as any other character and that's what stressed Katakuri out.
As i've been repeating 3x now, Luffy was stressing Katakuri by dodging even before he started improving his observation. He could never hit Katakuri but he could dodge a lot of his offense, that's how he was stressing him out & that was even before he understood Katakuri's powers fully.
You don't need to see the future, to dodge an attack aimed at you.
Luffy needed to improve his observation to surpass Katakuri and to effectively start hitting him.
He was dodging Mogura Thrusts with the same basic CoO as any other character and that's what stressed Katakuri out.
Stop trying to play dumb and trying to look unbiased Shishio, please
Simple, Sanji's scene was straight up focused in the fact that Katakuri specifically saw the future and acted to make sure Sanji was going to get hit.
This goes back to what im saying in my past 10 comments: Katakuri getting countered means he is getting countered. Luffy countered Katakuri by improving his Observation throughout the fight, that was the only way to do it, unless you're have speed + a tricky movement, like Luffy needed by coming up with the Snakeman form.
He didn't need to say "Well this guy is going to dodge the priest's shot, so i need a vertical angle of 42 degrees with an air speed of 10 meters per second to the west so i can hit that guy" "Oh shit, i missed". This didn't happened even once
Every single time Katakuri stopped to properly see a sequence of events in the future, he either:
- Managed to prevent it from happening somehow
- Was stopped from preventing it from happening because of other character's interference, but the event still happened in a way or another.
What you guys are trying to tell here is that this whole logic changed when the priest/jelly bean scene happened
Simple, Sanji's scene was straight up focused in the fact that Katakuri specifically saw the future and acted to make sure Sanji was going to get hit.
This goes back to what im saying in my past 10 comments: Katakuri getting countered means he is getting countered. Luffy countered Katakuri by improving his Observation throughout the fight, that was the only way to do it, unless you're have speed + a tricky movement, like Luffy needed by coming up with the Snakeman form.
He didn't need to say "Well this guy is going to dodge the priest's shot, so i need a vertical angle of 42 degrees with an air speed of 10 meters per second to the west so i can hit that guy" "Oh shit, i missed". This didn't happened even once
Every single time Katakuri stopped to properly see a sequence of events in the future, he either:
- Managed to prevent it from happening somehow
- Was stopped from preventing it from happening because of other character's interference, but the event still happened in a way or another.
What you guys are trying to tell here is that this whole logic changed when the priest/jelly bean scene happened
No nothing has changed for the priest scene it's the same as the Luffy fight, you just don't understand both