Future Events Why Zoro and Sanji will face Calamities
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Sanji took a gatling from Oars + Moriah after being stabbed on his shoulder (between the many hits he suffered) 
How is that any more impressive than Zoro taking straight knee to gut and getting rammed in the wall on top?
That stab is hardly impressive when Zoro has been taking stabs all the way since east blue.
It doesn't compare to abuse that taking 100 shadows puts on your body.
He didn't go to coma from a stab from buggy, he pass out due to blood loss, why does every Sanjitard gotta twist facts to their convenience? It was no different than Luffy passing out from Hody's bite despite using Haki.
What do you mean he didn't get the beating from Oars like Sanji? Zoro took a direct knee to gut and was launched?
Gets a part of building slammed on to it
And then kneed inside a stone wall from Oars
Zoro took like three massive hits from Oars, got sent inside buildings meaning took brunt of debris from massive bulding structure.
Where as didn't Sanji only take one gatling which again is not even fully effective against Sanji as Sanji is smaller than Oars punch.
Not to mention he also took Ursa shock just like Sanji did, and had a high level due with Ryuma that was really taxing and fatigue also plays a factor.
Yet he took Luffy's pain which was even more severe than his own pain as it was able to make Luffy pass out and Luffy's endurance although below Zoro's not that far below.
Because feats of past are relevant because Sanji post TS is even worse glass canon than he was pre TS breaking his shin on a trash can like Vergo who isn't even usng Haki, taking damage from a Page One casual slap despite blocking it with his Raid Suit. Where as Zoro has been rammed inside walls by Pica's massive punch and has been crushed by ground destroying gravity
What do you mean he didn't get the beating from Oars like Sanji? Zoro took a direct knee to gut and was launched?
Gets a part of building slammed on to it
And then kneed inside a stone wall from Oars
Zoro took like three massive hits from Oars, got sent inside buildings meaning took brunt of debris from massive bulding structure.
Where as didn't Sanji only take one gatling which again is not even fully effective against Sanji as Sanji is smaller than Oars punch.
Not to mention he also took Ursa shock just like Sanji did, and had a high level due with Ryuma that was really taxing and fatigue also plays a factor.
Yet he took Luffy's pain which was even more severe than his own pain as it was able to make Luffy pass out and Luffy's endurance although below Zoro's not that far below.
Because feats of past are relevant because Sanji post TS is even worse glass canon than he was pre TS breaking his shin on a trash can like Vergo who isn't even usng Haki, taking damage from a Page One casual slap despite blocking it with his Raid Suit. Where as Zoro has been rammed inside walls by Pica's massive punch and has been crushed by ground destroying gravity
Of course he was, Sanji took hits over hits throughout the arc while Zoro was put to rest after a couple of casual hits 
Luffy after lucci was still conscious
Luffy after moriah was instant ko
Meaning all he went through in thriller bark > ennies lobby
Zoro took that and was still conscious
I see that you are the type who are very convinced with their head canons and I think it's no use discussing this further with you
Which part is headcanon?
Did Sanji take out P1? No
Did Sanji use his PU? Yes
So how is Sanji soloing Queen who is several times stronger than P1 when he couldn't take out P1 with his PU?
The attack that defeated Sanji:
The attack that defeated Zoro:
The attack that defeated Zoro:
Lmaooo ya'll really dick riding that attack where Sanji and chopper were portrayed similarly?
Where as Zoro took 3 attacks?
Zoro took 3 attacks
Attack number 1
Attack number 2
Attack number 3
And btw Zoro still got back up seconds later, so he wasn't technically defeated. Neither was Sanji really but I am not arguing defeats here
He gets back up literally seconds later,
Does some insane shit like this
Sanji's AP was virtually useless against Oars even when he used Diamble Jambe, it did zero damage to Oars
And then does this
Takes all that pain after his own pain that made Luffy pass out even before Ursa Shock and Luffy's body took Ursa Shock on top of it.
If you truly wanna dick ride Sanji by trying to scale him up to Zoro, you better avoid Thriller Bark arc, its is the last arc that you wanna use to help your case.
Thriller Bark Zoro royally shits on Luffy when it comes to feats, Sanji is the last person you wanna compare him to. Zoro's endurance in TB made Luffy vs Katakuri look cute lmao if we look at difference in power levels of TB Zoro and WCI Luffy.
Perfect, if you had the time to look for so many pictures you have certainly seen the panels in which Sanji took way more damage than that 2 casual hits from Oars.
Have fun wanking the man that survived two kicks ignoring Sanji superior performance
Have fun wanking the man that survived two kicks ignoring Sanji superior performance
Because they were not named they were casual?
I suppose you agree Zoro is a casual mountain buster then?
Zoro took arguably more damage than Sanji even before taking Luffy's pain.
Sanji took same attack that Chopper of all people took lmao. If I were you, I won't use that to dick ride Sanji lol
I think the issue with this thread and the mid trio vs tobi roppo thread is that there is this incorrect assumption that wano kuni is somehow a straw hat focused arc and that it will basically be like the enies lobby of the new world. That luffy will become an equal to the other yonko this arc and that post wano there is nothing left for Luffy to do but fight blackbeard.
This kinda makes zero sense when you look at it. Wano isn't a straw hat vs beast pirates arc. Rather, unlike any other arc except maybe marineford, you have a coalition of many different factions coming together to defeat the beast pirates. Hence, in such an arc, does it really make sense for the straw hats to steal all the good fights?
If the monster trio fights the calamities and the mid and weak trio fight the tobi roppo, what will everyone else do?
the fact of the matter is that we aren't going to transition immediately from Wano to fighting blackbeard. Luffy isn't going to have to become a yonko overnight. There is still one arc we can say with 95% certainty will happen between Wano and the blackbeard war. That is a fight with the marines.
It's next arc, the marine arc, where Luffy teams up with Dragon to save sabo, hancock, and vivi, which will be the enies lobby of the new world. At that point, Luffy will be strong enough to 1v1 akainu, the monster trio will be forced to fight the strongest members of the SSG, and so forth.
Zoro doesn't need to become YC1 before he's had a chance to fight a single high tier, neither does sanji. There's still time for them. Rather than have the straw hats fight characters radically stronger than them, on a level they've never faced before, why not have progressive and incremental growth while respecting other characters and not making the entire universe focus around the straw hats?
Why should Zoro or Sanji 1v1 Calamities if Kidd, who is portrayed as a rival of Luffy, has yet to have a single fight? This just doesnt make any sense whatsoever. I feel like fans want to just ignore the story to reinforce their own powerlevel headcanons
This kinda makes zero sense when you look at it. Wano isn't a straw hat vs beast pirates arc. Rather, unlike any other arc except maybe marineford, you have a coalition of many different factions coming together to defeat the beast pirates. Hence, in such an arc, does it really make sense for the straw hats to steal all the good fights?
If the monster trio fights the calamities and the mid and weak trio fight the tobi roppo, what will everyone else do?
the fact of the matter is that we aren't going to transition immediately from Wano to fighting blackbeard. Luffy isn't going to have to become a yonko overnight. There is still one arc we can say with 95% certainty will happen between Wano and the blackbeard war. That is a fight with the marines.
It's next arc, the marine arc, where Luffy teams up with Dragon to save sabo, hancock, and vivi, which will be the enies lobby of the new world. At that point, Luffy will be strong enough to 1v1 akainu, the monster trio will be forced to fight the strongest members of the SSG, and so forth.
Zoro doesn't need to become YC1 before he's had a chance to fight a single high tier, neither does sanji. There's still time for them. Rather than have the straw hats fight characters radically stronger than them, on a level they've never faced before, why not have progressive and incremental growth while respecting other characters and not making the entire universe focus around the straw hats?
Why should Zoro or Sanji 1v1 Calamities if Kidd, who is portrayed as a rival of Luffy, has yet to have a single fight? This just doesnt make any sense whatsoever. I feel like fans want to just ignore the story to reinforce their own powerlevel headcanons