Spoiler One Piece Chapter 979 Spoilers Discussion

[Brutus]

Really hope we do get the Big Mom Pirates in Wano atire.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Sabo is a smarter, more positive figure than Ace, although they complement each other, Oda hit the right tone with his introduction and character and their contrast. If one reacts so triggered to him, I am just reminded of "Flampe"..

Marty Sue! Alert.

 

[pedxi]

Dudes, Ace has been supassed by Luffy and Sabo.

dude legit a nobody that Oda forced us to believe he is going to be next Ace
what was the point of Ace's death to be replaced by a nobody
I should like him bcz he is going to be stronger than Ace ?

 

[pedxi]

Oden makes Ace look smart Biggest retard in the series tbh

yes yes

 

[Kejon]

Sabo would low diff both Hawkins and Sanji combined @Kejon @pedxi

Low diff Hawkins? Sorry to tell you that but you can't one shot Hawkins like that, it doesn't matter who you are

 

[beardweird]

Marty Sue! Alert.

Sure, not getting into discussing a buzzword like that... Aside from: why should there not be a smarter, positive figure... He mixes things up, and certainly is not perfect. And there are plenty figures like that in literature which provide a more positive or idealistic foil, e.g. side-characters in Dickens.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Hody was an Arlong fanboy who was way in over his head and was a one dimensional villain. Sabo might be Ace's replacement, but he's still his own character. Shitty comparison.

These are fictional characters, what could Sabo have done to hurt you so much my guy?

Nah.. I just mean they are "CHEAP" replacement... they aren't even expensive LOL

 

[Xione]

Actually your comparison lacks the good highlights of Ace...

It's like for example a comparison between X and Z
X: he is so dignified.. so great... blah blah blah... stating all what you like about this character.

Z: He's so scum.. very bad... bla bla blah.. stating all what you hate about the character

So you're comparing the "Good side of a character to the bad side of the other character"
Great comparison to tell me you had more emotional attachment to them

Dude... Ace until this moment... everytime I see his speech with Luffy at his last moments.. I still have drops of tears coming out without controlling it... and I'm not the cry teary guy... I watch people slaughtered and laugh in sadistic way about them.. thus the name "sadistic senpai"... Ace and Robin moment are the TWO MOST highly emotionally not only me.. but MOST PEOPLE got during One Piece.. the epitome of emotions came with those two people with Ace dying and Robin's I want to live moment... LOL

Oden's moment? Yasui Moment? HAVE NO COMPARISON.. and the idea of comparing them is laughable to me...
I will admit that Fisher Tiger though was 100 times more emotional than fucking Oden's or Yasui... so maybe that's a good one.. but honestly the idea of comparing them to Ace.. is mindboggling...
And again... don't compare good sides of character you are attached to them.. to the bad side of the character you are not attached to them

Compare the good with the good... the bad with the bad...

I wasn't comparing the good or the bad, I was comparing the situations that had objectively happened regarding the characters. I also specifically stated that the flashback that added background to Ace made it then more emotional. So no, there was no "good vs bad" going on, there was simply a comparison what actually happened in the manga specifically going on, simply a mentioning of things that had happened up to Ace's death.. and his character's part that was supposed to feel sympathetic but simply wasn't for me. Actually you're sort of the one who does the Good vs Bad, when it comes to Sabo and Ace lol.


Robin's moment.. yes.. why? because of the flashback that added background to her character... If Ace's flashback had happened before his death, I would agree it was as sad as Robin's death situation, but it happened after. And what we are comparing is specifically the moments of death.

Ace's death in the MANGA specifically, not the fuckin anime, was not as sad.. THE SITUATION regarding Ace was sadder.. Why? Because of the Whitebeard pirates.. why? because of fucking luffy.. BUT we are talking about specifically the emotional impact of their death for us, not comparing the overall situation. Surely you can't compare the situation of Yasuie to the near climax of a huge war with Ace's death, the whole grand scene of thousands of pirates fighting a war to save 1 kid and failing at it.. is what makes it a tragedy, the loss of Whitebeard and his failure in saving Ace.. makes it a tragedy... the emotional impact on Luffy is what makes it a huge tragedy.. Ace's death on it's own ? no.

I was def. emotional when the death happened.. but not because of Ace.. but because of what Luffy was going through.



Again you found Ace with no background to be a character you could connect to, I didn't. He wasn't a character I would feel connected to until his flashback happened with Sabo/Ace/Luffy. But because I didn't feel connected doesn't equate Oda writing a shit character, just him writing a character that wasn't for me but for somebody like you.

 

[bennbeckman]

Is the Zoro intimidating Smoothie thing real or not?

haters (sanji fans) will say it's fake

on the real take all spoilers at face value until you see the full chapter/ pictures or 3/4 main leakers telling you their fake

 

[Winsmoke Sanji]

haters (sanji fans) will say it's fake

on the real take all spoilers at face value until you see the full chapter/ pictures or 3/4 main leakers telling you their fake

-_- are u serious right now

 

[pedxi]

Yikes, you know a Sanji fan is insecure when a stronger blonde with better fire powers appears in the manga upsets them greatly

if u like strong and blonde men u should fangirl Weevil and Jack they shit on Sabo in every aspect

 

[Finalbeta]

Yikes, you know a Sanji fan is insecure when a stronger blonde with better fire powers appears in the manga upsets them greatly

Sabo will show who truly deserves blond hair :cheers:

 

[Ace]

Sabo is trash

 

[bennbeckman]

-_- are u serious right now

The first line no, the second line take spoilers at face value it makes it more fun, there's no harm in choosing to believe whatever spoilers you want.

 

[Xione]

Sabo is trash

 

[Power]

Nah.. I just mean they are "CHEAP" replacement... they aren't even expensive LOL

The only reason certain people dislike Sabo is cuz he replaced Ace. That has nothing to do with Sabo's character but rather Oda's writing.

Sabo is literally one of the few characters in the entire manga who is an overpowered badass that has normal parents. Ace's dad was the pirate king, Luffy's dad was revolutionary army leader, Dragon's dad was hero of marines, Sanji's dad is leader of Germa, etc... But Sabo got where he is through fodder blood running through his veins.

I personally thought Ace was a cool character (I love the cool big brother anime archetype since I look up to my brother so much), but let's be real here, Ace was a dumbass who got himself, his captain, and so much of his crew killed and in the process he almost got his little brother killed too. Sabo is a stronger, smarter, and better role model for our main character. Comparing him to Hody, the absolute garbage version of Arlong, is laughable.

 

[The Penguin]

dude legit a nobody that Oda forced us to believe he is going to be next Ace
what was the point of Ace's death to be replaced by a nobody
I should like him bcz he is going to be stronger than Ace ?

They're brodas.

 

[Ace]

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

I wasn't comparing the good or the bad, I was comparing the situations that had objectively happened regarding the characters. I also specifically stated that the flashback that added background to Ace made it then more emotional. So no, there was no "good vs bad" going on, there was simply a comparison what actually happened in the manga specifically going on, simply a mentioning of things that had happened up to Ace's death.. and his character's part that was supposed to feel sympathetic but simply wasn't for me. Actually you're sort of the one who does the Good vs Bad, when it comes to Sabo and Ace lol.


Robin's moment.. yes.. why? because of the flashback that added background to her character... If Ace's flashback had happened before his death, I would agree it was as sad as Robin's death, but it happened after. And what we are comparing is specifically the moments of death.

Ace's death in the MANGA specifically, not the fuckin anime, was not as sad.. THE SITUATION regarding Ace was sadder.. Why? Because of the Whitebeard pirates.. why? because of fucking luffy.. BUT we are talking about specifically the emotional impact of their death for us, not comparing the overall situation. Surely you can't compare the situation of Yasuie to the near climax of a huge war with Ace's death, the whole grand scene of thousands of pirates fighting a war to save 1 kid and failing at it.. is what makes it a tragedy, the loss of Whitebeard and his failure in saving Ace.. makes it a tragedy... the emotional impact on Luffy is what makes it a huge tragedy.. Ace's death on it's own ? no.

I was def. emotional when the death happened.. but not because of Ace.. but because of what Luffy was going through.



Again you found Ace with no background to be a character you could connect to, I didn't. He wasn't a character I would feel connected to until his flashback happened with Sabo/Ace/Luffy. But because I didn't feel connected doesn't equate Oda writing a shit character, just him writing a character that wasn't for me but for somebody like you.

You can't blame me on Sabo though
He sucks
as simple as that

 

[bennbeckman]

Someone also posted this on REDDIT: SH managed to slip in and Zoro is lost. He met Smoothie and Perospero. Smoothie and perospero are put on guard because of Zoro's aura and said the beast pirate are strong/strange.

@stairs-kun proving haters wrong