Le Fishe Thread Zoro is better at using his CoC than Luffy

hey smart ass
how would kaido know zoro has conquerors
smart ass either a leak of CoC got released which Kaido identified

Or

CoC is the embodiment of the spirit




Asura is the manifestation of the spirit itself .


Asura itself had the similarity of what CoC was identified .

am not on your weird fanboy logic, I do not care if you take it as an insult to luffy
end of the day one is fighting toe to toe with kaido
and one needs to draw out all his haki to beat a yc1.
Ur smart ass got no arguments the same as always talking outta ur ass
That's the one page for Yamato and Kaido clashing there's no other instances of her using the no touch and considering how she couldn't break her cuffs she cant do it
No panel of close range when Kaido and Yamato clashed like Luffy and Kaido ? where is that panel ?
 
ok why would he speculate that
after that attack
but not the other ones.


what was different about that attack.
he did that with scabbards too
do scabbards actually have Oden's Ryou
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Folks: Nika was the biggest ass-pull in all of history of Shounen.

Also same folks: Zoro pulling Adv CoC in the heat of battle despite Zoro doesn't know anything about it is one of the best development for Zoro. Zoro is such da Goat. My G.
How is that wrong?
Zoro has always been naturally far more talented than Luffy
 
smart ass either a leak of CoC got released which Kaido identified

Or

CoC is the embodiment of the spirit




Asura is the manifestation of the spirit itself .


Asura itself had the similarity of what CoC was identified .


Ur smart ass got no arguments the same always talking outta ur ass
mind reading your own argument?

Your conclusion is ashura fits the description of what coc is ( personally idk but lets go off what you've said)
zoro uses it in his attack
but his attack is not coated in conquerors......


process that again
am sure you will catch the error you've made.


perhaps these will help







why wasn't that attack too shallow fenanker
fill in the clues yet?
 
mind reading your own argument?

Your conclusion is ashura fits the description of what coc is ( personally idk but lets go off what you've said)
zoro uses it in his attack
but his attack is not coated in conquerors......
Coating in Conqueror's Haki /=/ using Asura .

Unless you think using CoC to koe fodders = CoC Coating smart ass ?

CoC Coating needs Coating mastery .
process that again
am sure you will catch the error you've made.


perhaps these will help
let me help ur smart ass :


where is coc coating here in his VC ?


Nah better than that where is CoC in the Haki segment for Zoro if he used CoC Coating ?

why wasn't that attack too shallow fenanker
fill in the clues yet?


this will help u what did kaido say here ? Power ? or you need CoC Coating ?
 
Luffy unlocked CoC before Zoro mate. So Luffy is more gifted than Zoro. And see my post above.
How does that make sense when Zoro unlocked Ryou before Luffy even knew what CoA was
When Luffy took 2 years and Kaido's training wheels to use advCoC while Zoro is using AdvCoC while controlling a horrible sword at the same time.

Its like Luffy has training wheels (Kaido, Katakuri, Joy Boy Sperm)
Zoro has a huge crutch that makes him weak (Enma)

Take Enma away and Zoro's CoC has no time limit.
 
Coating in Conqueror's Haki /=/ using Asura .

Unless you think using CoC to koe fodders = CoC Coating smart ass ?

CoC Coating needs Coating mastery .

let me help ur smart ass :


where is coc coating here in his VC ?


Nah better than that where is CoC in the Haki segment for Zoro if he used CoC Coating ?




this will help u what did kaido say here ? Power ? or you need CoC Coating ?
not sure how the databooks disputes all I said
clearly states zoro puts everything he had left into the attack which is what he does to tame the blade against king.



"this will help u what did kaido say here ? Power ? or you need CoC Coating ?"

this is why two panels were posted. read the second panel
why did they lack power
what was luffy able to figure out.

to help you visualize
a base punch from luffy coated in coc wasn't shallow
but a gear 4 attack with ryou was. its clear which one has more physical power but at the same time its shallow............
 
How does that make sense when Zoro unlocked Ryou before Luffy even knew what CoA was
When Luffy took 2 years and Kaido's training wheels to use advCoC while Zoro is using AdvCoC while controlling a horrible sword at the same time.

Its like Luffy has training wheels (Kaido, Katakuri, Joy Boy Sperm)
Zoro has a huge crutch that makes him weak (Enma)

Take Enma away and Zoro's CoC has no time limit.
Ryou back in Alabasta? LOL that was clearly a retconned.

Zoro unlocked CoC in the heat of battle against Kaido. And Adv CoC against King.
 
not sure how the databooks disputes all I said
clearly states zoro puts everything he had left into the attack which is what he does to tame the blade against king.
when Luffy used CoC Coating in his attacks :

that same VC is all about that CoC Coating and how he used it .


> When we believe smart asses who say Zoro used CoC Coating :


No mention of CoC Coating in the VC .


> No mention of CoC in Zoro's Haki segment despite the so called adv CoC Feats , what's funny is Kidd himself was just said to have it by Kaido , No feats were seen but :


But he had it in his VC , nah more than funny , Pre TS Luffy had used CoC uncontrollably, he didn't know shit about it but :

But his VC had CoC on it .
:denzimote:

VCs which considered by Oda as a canon guide that helps at understanding the story since Oda can't explain them :


> So No Visuals to show Zoro using adv CoC ( black lightning , no touch .when he clashed against Kaido's club ... )
> No mention in Zoro's VC at him being a conqueror or using CoC Coating
> No mention of Zoro using CoC Coating By Kaido .
> Kaido mocking luffy because of the idea of him using CoC Coating whilst he just saw his subordinate using it according to fans .

I don't know what that means
:youcraz:

this is why two panels were posted. read the second panel
why did they lack power
what was luffy able to figure out.
So Admirals wouldn't injure Kaido badly since they need CoC Coating ? :kobeha:
:kawak:

to help you visualize
a base punch from luffy coated in coc wasn't shallow
but a gear 4 attack with ryou was. its clear which one has more physical power but at the same time its shallow............
that's for Luffy genius , don't apply them to others since his Ryuo is trash .

it doesn't mean others wouldn't do no shallow damage because Luffy's Ryuo couldn't :denzimote:
 
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Pirate King= The one who conquers the seas/the greatest conqueror of the era
Kaido: "In the end a strong devil fruit power isn't enough to conquer the seas."
"Look at Roger, he had no devil fruit power and still brought the world to heel. Such hurdles can only be overcome with haki."

So if we take Kaido as an authority, he himself is telling us that conquering the seas/ becoming the pirate king requires one to have the most indominable haki and the haki directly associated with conquering is Kings haki, meaning the one who Conquers the seas and takes the title of Pirate king has the most powerful Kings haki.
 
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ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
This is one of those threads which suffers from having bait-ish title and an author who baits a lot, taking away from what he actually said in the OP post of the thread which is true.

Zoro canonically did pick up weaponizing his CoC a lot quicker than Luffy did, when you compare the time that they've spent after they both unlocked CoC. Probably has to do with Zoro having solid fundamentals about Haki flow from his Time Skip training since CoC flow depends on how well you flow your Haki.
 
Zoro unlocked his latent CoC and was able to make it flow/coat and leak a few minutes later and ultimately unleashed it on King.

Luffy unlocked his latent CoC 2 years before being able to make it flow and leak and use it to flow/coat on a attack.

"CoC cant be trained it can only grow in battles"

Luffy had a lot sparring with a CoC user Rayleigh
Luffy fought CoC user Don Chinjao
Luffy fought CoC user Doffy
Luffy fought CoC user Katakuri
Luffy fought/clashed CoC user big Mom
Luffy fought/clashed CoC user Kaido

Luffy's Affinity is CoC

Meanwhile, Zoro only fought CoC user Kaido and Big Mom

Luffy had more experience and battles with CoC users and couldn't figure that you can use it to coat your own attacks.

Zoro immediately was able to figure it out maybe because Zoro's affinity is CoA??
or is Zoro better at using haki overall as a pure hakiman??

Zoro always observes in battle (uptime, intent sense, breath of all things, power sense, half blind)
Zoro have the most armament release in the series so far
Zoro figured out the secrets of conquerors in a matter of minutes

As a Jimbei fan, I want a better Hakiman captain for my favorite fishman.

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First u need to prove zoro even has Ad CoC to begin with. As per the story zoro dont know how to use ad CoC. Having black lighting doesnt mean zoro has ad CoC either. Just because luffy did something doent mean zoro can do it. There is a reason why zoro works under luffy. A lackey will always be a lackey :cheers:
 
This is one of those threads which suffers from having bait-ish title and an author who baits a lot, taking away from what he actually said in the OP post of the thread which is true.

Zoro canonically did pick up weaponizing his CoC a lot quicker than Luffy did, when you compare the time that they've spent after they both unlocked CoC. Probably has to do with Zoro having solid fundamentals about Haki flow from his Time Skip training since CoC flow depends on how well you flow your Haki.
before ch. 1035 :
-acoc is the strongest power
-only "coc haki specialist" have acoc
-no black lightning on asura Which means zoro didn't use acoc haki , zoro will never have it
-kaido was only talking about regular coc haki not acoc haki
-
oden's haki
:risitavirus:
after ch. 1035 :
-acoc is overrated
-asura is an acoc haki attack and it could only leave a small scar on kaido which means zoro's acoc is weak
-zoro can't use acoc haki without enma
-zoro can only use acoc for 1 min
- IT'S NOT ACOC IT'S ENMA'S COA HAKI SWORDMANSHIP MODE
 
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