Le Fishe Thread Zoro is better at using his CoC than Luffy

[Cruxroux]

Arlong park zoro can't BEAT Arlong

Bro was injured from the fight with mihawk.

alabasta zoro can't BEAT crocodile

Luffy found water as an alternative to haki but without it luffy got lol diffed. Zoro would have done better and might have even win given he was using haki pre time skip.

SKYPEIA zoro can't BEAT enel

I swear to god luffy just got lucky. If rubber wasn't natural enemy of electricity. Luffy was getting one shotted. Enel was enemy too powerful at that point.

7 zoro can't BEAT lucci,

Ashura finishes the job lmao.

thriller bark zoro can't BEAT moria

Luffy didn't beat him either. It was nightmare plus whole strawhat combined. And luffy got knocked out after the fight Zoro who had his own damage took Luffy's damage and yet didn't get knocked out and we got legendary Nothing happened. Fuck zoan endurance Zoro human forms better.

zoro would have died in impel down vs magellan

Lmao so did luffy and as always Zoro was using haki pre time skip. He would have fought better than Luffy. Though still have lost.

dressrosa zoro couldn't best doffy

Zoro negged Pica. Yes I said he negged Pica. That king punch was just make Zoro reach there faster. Zoro almost one shotted pica and even went to fight Doflamingo but got interfered by fujitora. Zoro with haki can beat doflamingo. Luffy has nothing as advantage against doflamingo that Zoro doesn't have.

WCI zoro wouldn't beat katakuri and last, but not least

Lmao only reason they didn't took Zoro to WCI is he could have beat katakuri extreme diff , no character has pushed Zoro since post time skip except for kaido. And given Zoro performance in first encounter with yonkou was better than Luffy , start of wano Zoro either mid or high diff kata. Its luffy who needed power up to fight kaido not Zoro.

wano zoro wouldn't beat kaido.

Give Zoro 3 chances with His KOH keeps on getting everytime round. Kaido was fucked. Fuck magma Zoro cuts him down himself.

Zoro loses to ALL Luffy's opponents at the time of their respective arcs

Zoro literally wins every fight except for Enel and magallen, crocodile extreme diff at that time.

Its luffy who got the thickest plot armour to win every battle not to forget luffy runs mid fight. Which is pathetic. Zoro never ran away mid fight. Neither would sanji. Its just luffy hit and run fighting method. This is seriously pathetic.

And with fight with kaido. Luffy finally got awakening. If Zoro unlocks black blade kaido is gonna get sliced like a cake lmao.

 

[NikaInParis]

What are you loling at?

Luffy cant beat Mr1.
Luffy cant beat Ohm.
Luffy cant beat Kaku.
Luffy cant beat Ryuma.
Luffy cant beat Pica.
Luffy cant beat King.

Zoro couldnt beat Arlong thanks to Mihawk's injury. Fresh Zoro eats Arlong alive.

Zoro can absolutely beat Crocodile considering that he pulled haki in Alabasta.

Water 7 Zoro can beat Lucci. When he faced him he was already filled with holes from Kaku's Shigan and without determination.

Beating Moriah is not much of an issue for Zoro who can even rip Oars' stomach open. And Moriah aint a zombie to shrug it off.

Why do you bring up Magellan when Luffy never has beaten him? It's a question if he can beat him now. Zoro for sure can though.

[QUOTE
DR Zoro was about to off Doffy, that's why an Admiral stepped in to protect Doffy.[/QUOTE]

FMI Zoro would have clapped Katakuri, lol.
Zoro absolutely stands a chance vs Kaido. He already bested him and left a scar before pulling aCoC and King of Hell. Luffy cant beat Kaido.

Zamn, the day Oda drew Zoro he gave Gege the blueprint for Gojo

 

[CensoredbyWG]

What are you loling at?

Luffy cant beat Mr1.
Luffy cant beat Ohm.
Luffy cant beat Kaku.
Luffy cant beat Ryuma.
Luffy cant beat Pica.
Luffy cant beat King.

All of them were created to not be beatable by Luffy.
Guess how Mihawk is created?

Zoro couldnt beat Arlong thanks to Mihawk's injury. Fresh Zoro eats Arlong alive.
Zoro can absolutely beat Crocodile considering that he pulled haki in Alabasta.
Zoro versus Enel is one case where I would agree that Zoro would probably fail.
CoO was big advantage back then and Enel's powers take too much of a toll on Zoro back then.
Water 7 Zoro can beat Lucci. When he faced him he was already filled with holes from Kaku's Shigan and without determination.
Beating Moriah is not much of an issue for Zoro who can even rip Oars' stomach open. And Moriah aint a zombie to shrug it off.
Why do you bring up Magellan when Luffy never has beaten him? It's a question if he can beat him now. Zoro for sure can though.
DR Zoro was about to off Doffy, that's why an Admiral stepped in to protect Doffy.
FMI Zoro would have clapped Katakuri, lol.
Zoro absolutely stands a chance vs Kaido. He already bested him and left a scar before pulling aCoC and King of Hell. Luffy cant beat Kaido.

You are severely mentally ill or Just a troll, luffy beats ALL zoro's opponents including zoro himself.

As a matter of fact, If zoro pushed luffy to G4 It would already bê a huge feat for him.

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Bro was injured from the fight with mihawk.


Luffy found water as an alternative to haki but without it luffy got lol diffed. Zoro would have done better and might have even win given he was using haki pre time skip.


I swear to god luffy just got lucky. If rubber wasn't natural enemy of electricity. Luffy was getting one shotted. Enel was enemy too powerful at that point.



Ashura finishes the job lmao.


Luffy didn't beat him either. It was nightmare plus whole strawhat combined. And luffy got knocked out after the fight Zoro who had his own damage took Luffy's damage and yet didn't get knocked out and we got legendary Nothing happened. Fuck zoan endurance Zoro human forms better.



Lmao so did luffy and as always Zoro was using haki pre time skip. He would have fought better than Luffy. Though still have lost.



Zoro negged Pica. Yes I said he negged Pica. That king punch was just make Zoro reach there faster. Zoro almost one shotted pica and even went to fight Doflamingo but got interfered by fujitora. Zoro with haki can beat doflamingo. Luffy has nothing as advantage against doflamingo that Zoro doesn't have.



Lmao only reason they didn't took Zoro to WCI is he could have beat katakuri extreme diff , no character has pushed Zoro since post time skip except for kaido. And given Zoro performance in first encounter with yonkou was better than Luffy , start of wano Zoro either mid or high diff kata. Its luffy who needed power up to fight kaido not Zoro.



Give Zoro 3 chances with His KOH keeps on getting everytime round. Kaido was fucked. Fuck magma Zoro cuts him down himself.



Zoro literally wins every fight except for Enel and magallen, crocodile extreme diff at that time.

Its luffy who got the thickest plot armour to win every battle not to forget luffy runs mid fight. Which is pathetic. Zoro never ran away mid fight. Neither would sanji. Its just luffy hit and run fighting method. This is seriously pathetic.

And with fight with kaido. Luffy finally got awakening. If Zoro unlocks black blade kaido is gonna get sliced like a cake lmao.

Of course, kaido gonna stand there waiting for zoro to recharge his CoC lol.

Zoro coated his sword with coc when he slashed kaido and the most he could do was a would on his body.

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

What are you loling at?

Luffy cant beat Mr1.
Luffy cant beat Ohm.
Luffy cant beat Kaku.
Luffy cant beat Ryuma.
Luffy cant beat Pica.
Luffy cant beat King.

All of them were created to not be beatable by Luffy.
Guess how Mihawk is created?

Zoro couldnt beat Arlong thanks to Mihawk's injury. Fresh Zoro eats Arlong alive.
Zoro can absolutely beat Crocodile considering that he pulled haki in Alabasta.
Zoro versus Enel is one case where I would agree that Zoro would probably fail.
CoO was big advantage back then and Enel's powers take too much of a toll on Zoro back then.
Water 7 Zoro can beat Lucci. When he faced him he was already filled with holes from Kaku's Shigan and without determination.
Beating Moriah is not much of an issue for Zoro who can even rip Oars' stomach open. And Moriah aint a zombie to shrug it off.
Why do you bring up Magellan when Luffy never has beaten him? It's a question if he can beat him now. Zoro for sure can though.
DR Zoro was about to off Doffy, that's why an Admiral stepped in to protect Doffy.
FMI Zoro would have clapped Katakuri, lol.
Zoro absolutely stands a chance vs Kaido. He already bested him and left a scar before pulling aCoC and King of Hell. Luffy cant beat Kaido.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

[QUOTE
DR Zoro was about to off Doffy, that's why an Admiral stepped in to protect Doffy.

Zamn, the day Oda drew Zoro he gave Gege the blueprint for Gojo[/QUOTE]
Thx for answering this lol, 1000+ chapters and they still haven't accepted that zoro is and will ALWAYS be inferior to luffy hence why one is the CAPTAIN and the other the sidekick.

 

[Cruxroux]

Of course kaido gonna stand there waiting for zoro to recharge his CoC lol.

Zoro coated his sword with coc when he slashed kaido and the most he could do was a would on his body.

Exactly most he could do with that body was better than anyone on the rooftop. Healthy Zoro easily does better than pre g5 luffy.

Luffy got plot armour on his side. Kaido already killed him like twice.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Sanji has coc he just hasn't shown it yet. Zoro doesn't have adcoc if he did believe me every gayboy on this forum would have that moment as their avatar/signature.

You can change your avatar and sig now. :cheers:

 

[Psychiatrist]

Exactly most he could do with that body was better than anyone on the rooftop. Healthy Zoro easily does better than pre g5 luffy.

Luffy got plot armour on his side. Kaido already killed him like twice.

Do you believe zoro if not as a straw hat pirate would come this far, without him rubbing his captains plot armor?

 

[IsaziSempi]

You can change your avatar and sig now. :cheers:

?

 

[Cruxroux]

Do you believe zoro if not as a straw hat pirate would come this far, without him rubbing his captains plot armor?

Do you think luffy would come this far without Zoro? He would died pre time skip only. Only reason luffy is this far is 80% Plot armour , 10 % skills and 10% his crew.

Where as Zoro. Who was either gonna enocunter mihawk later or sooner.
Mihawk is known as marine hunter and Zoro probably still remained with his status of pirate hunter and climbed up on that. No where in the journey luffy is the reason Zoro survived anything.

 

[nik87]

DR Zoro was about to off Doffy, that's why an Admiral stepped in to protect Doffy

Was I wrong about any of it?
Waiting for an argument if you think so.

You are severely mentally ill or Just a troll

That or I just know how to power scale?

 

[Psychiatrist]

Do you think luffy would come this far without Zoro? He would died pre time skip only. Only reason luffy is this far is 80% Plot armour , 10 % skills and 10% his crew.

Where as Zoro. Who was either gonna enocunter mihawk later or sooner.
Mihawk is known as marine hunter and Zoro probably still remained with his status of pirate hunter and climbed up on that. No where in the journey luffy is the reason Zoro survived anything.

Zoro end was sealed in captain morgans arc only if luffy had not intervened the bullet.
Has zoro beaten any enemy stronger than luffys on panel? We dont count on headcanons. Zoros enemy most of them were of sanji's level. Thats why together they are called wings of the pirate king.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Do you think luffy would come this far without Zoro? He would died pre time skip only. Only reason luffy is this far is 80% Plot armour , 10 % skills and 10% his crew.

Where as Zoro. Who was either gonna enocunter mihawk later or sooner.
Mihawk is known as marine hunter and Zoro probably still remained with his status of pirate hunter and climbed up on that. No where in the journey luffy is the reason Zoro survived anything.

Zoro and these 2 goats would lead a Yonkou level crew full of bounty hunters.
The Strawhats have done nothing but hold Zoro back.

 

[NikaInParis]

Was I wrong about any of it?
Waiting for an argument if you think so.


That or I just know how to power scale?

The characters out of those you mentioned that Zoro could have beaten are only Moria and maybe Arlong.

Everyone else was way out of Zoro's league at that point in time.

I feel like you're using the things Zoro ended up doing in later arcs as justification for him being able to beat the Main Villains from arcs before. While you would deny that privilege to other characters.

Alabasta Zoro has no answer for Crocodile's logia.

Nor does Sabaody Zoro have an answer for Magellan, who notoriously doesn't give a fuck and just attacks the moment he sees you.

And Lucci, Doffy, and Katakuri are especially laughable as possible Zoro Ws. They all soundly beat him in their respective arcs.

 

[nik87]

The characters out of those you mentioned that Zoro could have beaten are only Moria and maybe Arlong.

Everyone else was way out of Zoro's league at that point in time.

I feel like you're using the things Zoro ended up doing in later arcs as justification for him being able to beat the Main Villains from arcs before. While you would deny that privilege to other characters.

Alabasta Zoro has no answer for Crocodile's logia.

Nor does Sabaody Zoro have an answer for Magellan, who notoriously doesn't give a fuck and just attacks the moment he sees you.

And Lucci, Doffy, and Katakuri are especially laughable as possible Zoro Ws. They all soundly beat him in their respective arcs.

Crocodile out of Zoro's league? You do know that before Alabasta, Luffy and Zoro clashed and it was Zoro who powered up since then?
I dont deny any privilege to Luffy, he didnt pull Haki until post-TS. Alabasta Zoro at the worst case has same answer Luffy had - blood.
Idk why yall mention Magellan considering that Luffy never stood a chance against him...
Lucci is the easiest target of them all. Cocky and wants to tank stuff that he cant tank...
Doffy was protected by an Admiral is a fact while having no issues trashing everyone else aside from Zoro and Sabo - the two he cant beat.
Katakuri has never been a problem for anyone who has AOEs...

 

[NikaInParis]

Crocodile out of Zoro's league? You do know that before Alabasta, Luffy and Zoro clashed and it was Zoro who powered up since then?
I dont deny any privilege to Luffy, he didnt pull Haki until post-TS. Alabasta Zoro at the worst case has same answer Luffy had - blood.
Idk why yall mention Magellan considering that Luffy never stood a chance against him...
Lucci is the easiest target of them all. Cocky and wants to tank stuff that he cant tank...
Doffy was protected by an Admiral is a fact while having no issues trashing everyone else aside from Zoro and Sabo - the two he cant beat.
Katakuri has never been a problem for anyone who has AOEs...

If you want to belive that, hey, it's your preorgative.

Doesn't make it true though.

But still, you are at least easy to talk to compared to some others from the Zoro FC whose opening line is some variation of "idiot/retard/dumbass" etc

Kudos for keeping it real and civil, that's what I like about you, arguments aside:cheers:

 

[Monster Luffy]

Do you think luffy would come this far without Zoro? He would died pre time skip only. Only reason luffy is this far is 80% Plot armour , 10 % skills and 10% his crew.

Where as Zoro. Who was either gonna enocunter mihawk later or sooner.
Mihawk is known as marine hunter and Zoro probably still remained with his status of pirate hunter and climbed up on that. No where in the journey luffy is the reason Zoro survived anything.

Lol, Zoro saved Luffy like many other people. Yes, Luffy will go any far without Zoro. You would have known this if you read whole one piece not just Zoro panels (Marineford, Impel down, and WCI), a recurring problem of many zorostans. Luffy plot armor is an indirect plot armor for the whole crew.

Not just Zoro, many others saved Luffy many times. Don't rub as if it is only Zoro. Only in Wano, Zoro had a chance to really save Luffy. And Luffy returned the favor by saving the whole country including SH by defeating the big bad.

Irony that you use so many headcanons to talk about what would have happened to Zoro lol. Same can be said for Luffy. Of course you people always use headcanons and imaginary scenarios.

 

[Hades]

Ah yes, the earth is flat. Kudos for saying "roundabout" way that the earth is flat.

 

[nik87]

If you want to belive that, hey, it's your preorgative.

Doesn't make it true though.

But still, you are at least easy to talk to compared to some others from the Zoro FC whose opening line is some variation of "idiot/retard/dumbass" etc

Kudos for keeping it real and civil, that's what I like about you, arguments aside:cheers:

My arguments are the best part though.
And it's not me believing that, it's facts.
If blood works for Luffy, it works for Zoro too.
Lucci factually cant tank Zoro's firepower.
Doffy getting protection from an Admiral is a fact.
Katakuri being helpless vs AOEs is also a fact.

 

[Cruxroux]

Zoro end was sealed in captain morgans arc only if luffy had not intervened the bullet.
Has zoro beaten any enemy stronger than luffys on panel? We dont count on headcanons. Zoros enemy most of them were of sanji's level. Thats why together they are called wings of the pirate king.

That's the point luffy is the mc he gets the thick plot armour.
Zoro was either ready to fight big bad himself majority of the time.

Also i have already said if Zoro died at that point i would still consider him as the best no matter cuz he didn't go back on his word. Man of pride. It wasn't because he was weak that he died.

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Lol, Zoro saved Luffy like many other people. Yes, Luffy will go any far without Zoro. You would have known this if you read whole one piece not just Zoro panels (Marineford, Impel down, and WCI), a recurring problem of many zorostans. Luffy plot armor is an indirect plot armor for the whole crew.

Not just Zoro, many others saved Luffy many times. Don't rub as if it is only Zoro. Only in Wano, Zoro had a chance to really save Luffy. And Luffy returned the favor by saving the whole country including SH by defeating the big bad.

Irony that you use so many headcanons to talk about what would have happened to Zoro lol. Same can be said for Luffy. Of course you people always use headcanons and imaginary scenarios.

I give a simple logical reasoning when plot armour isn't with you. Luffy is fucked and worse than Zoro if plot armour wasn't there. Y'all count in all the plot armour/luck this guy got.
I give simple logical assumption if such luck isn't in your favour. Zoro could easily Have gone to sea Alone and survived. And also same goes for luffy strength wise. Zoro getting lost and luffy being brain dead is the only reason they couldn't have grown even a bit. Zoro is still fine with one person for direction purpose luffy isn't.

Keep crying on your excuses of headcannon. If exact lore/plot wise stuff you want discuss then yea luffy>Zoro cuz oda will give every bullshit of his make luffy win ni matter what. I guess mc priviliges.