Powers & Abilities Did Oden Have KoH?

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  • Zoro is the only KoH user, and manifested it in an instant

    Votes: 42 87.5%
  • Oden also had it, and Zoro managed to match his best feat within a few days

    Votes: 6 12.5%

  • Total voters
    48
#45
How do you fail so easily at something so simple?
Enma demands from Zoro more than it ever demanded from Oden because Zoro's ambitions are far above Oden's.
Thus, CoA control over Enma which worked perfectly on rooftop is no longer working vs King while CoA was always enough for Oden.
You cannot compare anyone's ambition with Zoro's and thus a overflowing haki state like King of Hell exists only for Zoro and it isnt for Enma alone, it is for all of his swords.


Oden couldnt release as much as Zoro does, we literally saw his strongest attack and it never had any fumes nor KOH naming.


There is no proof that Zoro used aCoC whatsoever. Until someone presents it, it is nothing but headcanon.

Yes, Oden's feat has narrative wank, Zoro's doesnt. Nothing new here, we saw it too many times with Luffy already.
Doesnt change the fact that both achieved the same thing with their strongest attacks - just a scar. And Zoro's feat is far more impressive.
He cant cry about Zoro's scar when he already went through that experience with Oden's scar nor can he look for a swordsman like Zoro if he is dead, lol.


Based on Oden having no clue about aCoC for decades and based on lack of haki fumes and based on lack of KOH naming.
Nobody in the world has a better haki portrayal than Zoro when he is in KOH state and it is not even close.
Judging by Asura, KOH too will remain a Zoro unique thing.
:risiup:
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#47
Enma didn’t feel the need to pull out Odens haki as much as zoro because Oden was already powerful enough to satisfy the blade.
When someone wants to beat Ashura Doji, his test is easy and Enma is satisfied with CoA alone.
But when you want to be strongest in the world, Enma isnt satisfied until you pour so much haki that aCoC flows on top of CoA fumes.
There are levels to this. :goyea:
 
#52
koh is the term zoro uses to decribe when he maxes out the output of his haki to his swords primarily to keep enma under control .
Oden fought similarly at his peak but didnt give it a name since he was essentially using the sword when he was a child
and had tamed the blamed by the time he was a teenager . sometime during his years as a pirate he would further improve on his ability to coat his attacks in conquerors.


tho as to why oden could fight with enma casually
and zoro seems to over exert himself atm , am not exactly sure.
haki is finite regardless so KOH is inefficient just like with gear 4 and realistically no one should fight that way constantly. Honestly leaning towards coc being a factor in taming enma not exactly just ryou which would explain why oden could use it as a kid and why it calmed down during the king fight when zoro used his. Dont imagine zoro will continue to fight this way till the end of the series. some efficiency is needed.
 
#60
the enma copers always find new ways to redefine delusion and foolery
This one is a pure brainlet, I've seen him post things like Queen is more durable than King.
Oden and Zoro's scars against different versions of Kaido are worlds apart but Queen destroying a couple of paper walls is about the same thing as King destroying 1/5 of Onigashima with one move! :kobeha:
 
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