Anyone else finds Andrew Tate's downfall absolutely hilarious?
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As I said, you either get people that'll ask you to believe everything or people who deny everything. What we believe and what we don't believe is up to us. A similar incident happened a while back, he was accused of beating a woman and most media outlets believed it and propagated it only for the girl to come out and say it was a part of role-play. People that don't like Tate still believe he paid her to say it while his fans believe the girl's telling the truth.
Even some girls that were mentioned as victims in his recent case allegedly came out and said they're not victims on their national media. We don't know how true it is and based on how these girls will respond in court, some of the charges might drop. People are being unnecessarily hasty with this just because they hate or like the guy.
Even some girls that were mentioned as victims in his recent case allegedly came out and said they're not victims on their national media. We don't know how true it is and based on how these girls will respond in court, some of the charges might drop. People are being unnecessarily hasty with this just because they hate or like the guy.
It doesnt matter whether we believe it. It is if (The court) believes it to be true based off what is presented. Also I have no idea how Romanian Judicial system works
What certain people believe based off what evidence is presented makes them come off as ignorant idiots though
My point earlier that you replied to was posting a youtube video and using it as evidence to get people to believe a side. A youtube video isn't evidence it's bias to convince you even more upon which side you do believe.
What certain people believe based off what evidence is presented makes them come off as ignorant idiots though
My point earlier that you replied to was posting a youtube video and using it as evidence to get people to believe a side. A youtube video isn't evidence it's bias to convince you even more upon which side you do believe.
You say work in a court, you are sure as hell know, as well as I do, that they can't use your online boasting as evidence to convict you. A simple I was lying to get famous will invalidate the whole thing. Courts often need rock-solid evidence to reach a verdict. The best we can hope for is that since the Romanian government is obviously trying to put Tate behind bars, the juries may not scrutinize the evidence too much.
But you do know what is bias and unbias in this case (Which is why they were arrested). The investigation is still ongoing from there that's where opinions form etc.
Tate... who probably knew he was going to be arrested made previous statements that they (The Matrix) will come after him.
They were investigating him since April.
Tate... who probably knew he was going to be arrested made previous statements that they (The Matrix) will come after him.
They were investigating him since April.
I understand what you're saying, and I am saying this is all we have to use as evidence either against Tate or in favor of him. None of us know what's truly going on. We're all using whey we see or read from these so-called YouTube videos and online articles and pretending we're qualified enough to decide whether he's guilty or innocent.
It's one thing to have an opinion based on what we learned—I, for one, think he's guilty—but to sit here and attack people just for having different views is asinine. But people love doing exactly that.
It's one thing to have an opinion based on what we learned—I, for one, think he's guilty—but to sit here and attack people just for having different views is asinine. But people love doing exactly that.
1. Chill. Don't threaten me.
2. The saying that all opinions are equal is a fallacy. Never forget that.
Basically developping the myth that men can be strong by themself. This is not a positive.
By creating men full of toxic masculinity traits. I saw the content mate. That pizza turd do not advocate for a positive masculinity, he instead propagate myth that men:
- Men Should ignore there weaknesses/trauma and grow stronger
- Men Rich and powerful are the alpha
- That women don't deserve respect
- That toxic masculinity is a good thing.
None of that is positive.
Actually positive masculinity is more the thing of a average left. This is the basic to be a good person mate.
Everyone who know about the state of victimhood knows that its common for victims to defends their abusers. That's precisely why we must be careful with call out, because call-out can be hurtfull to the victims and obligate them to defends their actual oppressor to survive (because of a lot of different factor : Manipulation/financial hostage etc.)
Just imagine being the victim of a guy who has ties with the mafia and this guy is being called out with you as the victim... what are you gonna say?
2. The saying that all opinions are equal is a fallacy. Never forget that.
Basically developping the myth that men can be strong by themself. This is not a positive.
By creating men full of toxic masculinity traits. I saw the content mate. That pizza turd do not advocate for a positive masculinity, he instead propagate myth that men:
- Men Should ignore there weaknesses/trauma and grow stronger
- Men Rich and powerful are the alpha
- That women don't deserve respect
- That toxic masculinity is a good thing.
None of that is positive.
Actually positive masculinity is more the thing of a average left. This is the basic to be a good person mate.
Everyone who know about the state of victimhood knows that its common for victims to defends their abusers. That's precisely why we must be careful with call out, because call-out can be hurtfull to the victims and obligate them to defends their actual oppressor to survive (because of a lot of different factor : Manipulation/financial hostage etc.)
Just imagine being the victim of a guy who has ties with the mafia and this guy is being called out with you as the victim... what are you gonna say?
I believe posting a bias youtube video as evidence is ignorance. If there are articles of what have been found to be false, etc I would love to read them even if I disagree with them
If there is evidence and you are going against the evidence you're not using the evidence it's just ignorant bias
We literally do know what's going on, you're right in regards to not knowing the full depth of the case as well as not having any idea how the investigation will end.
If there is evidence and you are going against the evidence you're not using the evidence it's just ignorant bias
We literally do know what's going on, you're right in regards to not knowing the full depth of the case as well as not having any idea how the investigation will end.
That's a valid route of thinking what I'm talking about is credible sources. Yes youtube itself isnt generally a good sournce you can find those who addresses sources.. Check the video out he's a Lawyer from Romania with the material from the judge that he breaks down in it.
From what i get Andrew is in trouble with regards to some chargers made which all depend on hiw thw trial goes about it.
The prosecutors and increases the duration of his stay in prison if they think they haven't yet gatherer enough evidence..
From what i get Andrew is in trouble with regards to some chargers made which all depend on hiw thw trial goes about it.
The prosecutors and increases the duration of his stay in prison if they think they haven't yet gatherer enough evidence..
Straw man, you can show disagreement but not condescension for having an opinion.
You have been warned.
They can
Self-education, abstinence, self-introspection
Are terms i think you aren't fimilar off
And yes we do need help that what tate's advices are for.. But the rest is up to us
this isn't it
You don't know crap
The problem with left is the segmentation of everything into positives and negatives based on what's adequate to your ideology
Masculinity is masculinity every trait that is inherently masculine..
If a man is beibg a douchebag then he is one there is no point in categorising personality issues into gender specific ones
You don't understand masculinity by analogizing reductionist movie-built stereotypes.
There are nuances that seem to go over you head.
You have been warned.
They can
Self-education, abstinence, self-introspection
Are terms i think you aren't fimilar off
And yes we do need help that what tate's advices are for.. But the rest is up to us
this isn't it
You don't know crap
The problem with left is the segmentation of everything into positives and negatives based on what's adequate to your ideology
Masculinity is masculinity every trait that is inherently masculine..
If a man is beibg a douchebag then he is one there is no point in categorising personality issues into gender specific ones
You don't understand masculinity by analogizing reductionist movie-built stereotypes.
There are nuances that seem to go over you head.
I understand where you're getting at but you cannot look at this from an emotional angle. Courts don't think like us. If the victims come out and say they're not victims, then there isn't much they can do unless they're willing to go against the norms to convict Tate.
Most of what we know as evidence is the evidence being propagated by the people who wanna see the guy fall. We don't know how much of it is true or at least how much of it can be used against him in court. Most of them lack context for us to reach a conclusion. This is what most of the kids on the Internet(and WG)don't understand. What you see online isn't what's going to be used in court. Most of it can't even be used as evidence. I know it's frustrating to accept, but that's just how it is.
I'll give you an example: Read this article: Judge quashed trial of two Toronto hospital guards in death of a maskless woman. There was video evidence to suggest they assaulted her. She allegedly didn't wake up after the assault but the trial was quashed.
Similar shit happened when he was accused of being a women beater. There was evidence, everyone believed it and his fans supported him like they always did. But the girl came out and said it was all fake. We don't even know if the girl is telling the truth in all honesty. He was also arrested for keeping a girl hostage. Turns out, she was partying with them willingly and lied to his boyfriend about it.
Most of what we know as evidence is the evidence being propagated by the people who wanna see the guy fall. We don't know how much of it is true or at least how much of it can be used against him in court. Most of them lack context for us to reach a conclusion. This is what most of the kids on the Internet(and WG)don't understand. What you see online isn't what's going to be used in court. Most of it can't even be used as evidence. I know it's frustrating to accept, but that's just how it is.
I'll give you an example: Read this article: Judge quashed trial of two Toronto hospital guards in death of a maskless woman. There was video evidence to suggest they assaulted her. She allegedly didn't wake up after the assault but the trial was quashed.
Similar shit happened when he was accused of being a women beater. There was evidence, everyone believed it and his fans supported him like they always did. But the girl came out and said it was all fake. We don't even know if the girl is telling the truth in all honesty. He was also arrested for keeping a girl hostage. Turns out, she was partying with them willingly and lied to his boyfriend about it.
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I'd say you don't have to prove you're mentally ill just to admit you're lying in court. Courts don't go like, "Oh, you said you're not a liar in a YT video, it must be true." He could get away by admitting he's lying to get views if there's no solid evidence. He's an influencer. Lying to influencers is about as common as breathing. I am sure, the courts understand it pretty well.
I think Tate is getting charged either way. Even if every allegation that is floating around isn't proven with evidence, I think they have enough evidence to lock him up in one way or another.
I think Tate is getting charged either way. Even if every allegation that is floating around isn't proven with evidence, I think they have enough evidence to lock him up in one way or another.