Anyone else finds Andrew Tate's downfall absolutely hilarious?
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1. Don't threaten me.
2. All opinions are not equal. There is no strawmanning is that fact. And right now, your opinion is biased toward A.T and his masculinist rethoric. A.T opinion's on masculinity are higly toxic and highly dangerous, those are not "just another" opinions equal to others, there are dangerous and must be denounced. Period.
No. The myth that men should become strong by themselve is precisely the reason why men today are not seeking the help they need in term of mental illness. This is a retrograde and toxic and dengerous ideology for the public health.
In fact I know it, as I know A.T's ideology.
ANd it smells bad.
Open your eyes.
Sure
There is multiple masculinities mate.
Men are product over their environment and their genetic. So if a lot of men are being douchebag, it means that there is most probably a overall system that produce them that way. This is exactly what A.T is, a pure product of patriarchy. In fact I would go as far as saying that he is the embodiement of it.
Wuat ?
Oh don't worry about that. I understand each T.'s nuances. They are all problematic.
Without emotion, you don't fight for victims. Emotion must be ruled out during the justice treatment, not before or after.
But that's indeed a problem. That's why - on the left - we are trying to reduce call outs that are not coming from the victims.
2. All opinions are not equal. There is no strawmanning is that fact. And right now, your opinion is biased toward A.T and his masculinist rethoric. A.T opinion's on masculinity are higly toxic and highly dangerous, those are not "just another" opinions equal to others, there are dangerous and must be denounced. Period.
No. The myth that men should become strong by themselve is precisely the reason why men today are not seeking the help they need in term of mental illness. This is a retrograde and toxic and dengerous ideology for the public health.
In fact I know it, as I know A.T's ideology.
ANd it smells bad.
Open your eyes.
Sure
There is multiple masculinities mate.
Men are product over their environment and their genetic. So if a lot of men are being douchebag, it means that there is most probably a overall system that produce them that way. This is exactly what A.T is, a pure product of patriarchy. In fact I would go as far as saying that he is the embodiement of it.
Wuat ?
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Oh don't worry about that. I understand each T.'s nuances. They are all problematic.
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Without emotion, you don't fight for victims. Emotion must be ruled out during the justice treatment, not before or after.
But that's indeed a problem. That's why - on the left - we are trying to reduce call outs that are not coming from the victims.
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Again I understand you multiple points you are bringing across in regards to whether or not people believe what is presented
My "example" of evidence was literally statements made by the police, investigations going on etc. This was MY SOLE POINT. Which again no one knows the depths of it.
The article proves the point which I believe both of us have made in that it does not matter what we think. It only matters what the judge thinks or in other instances "the jury"
Your last paragraph, yes there have been instances of that on numerous occasions and that is unfortunate.
To your point Probably the best example is OJ Simpson
You are asking me to check out a breakdown video of someone who doesnt believe Tate is guilty?
My "example" of evidence was literally statements made by the police, investigations going on etc. This was MY SOLE POINT. Which again no one knows the depths of it.
The article proves the point which I believe both of us have made in that it does not matter what we think. It only matters what the judge thinks or in other instances "the jury"
Your last paragraph, yes there have been instances of that on numerous occasions and that is unfortunate.
To your point Probably the best example is OJ Simpson
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You are asking me to check out a breakdown video of someone who doesnt believe Tate is guilty?
I don't think you understand or think twice before typing
The first one is a strawman I'm not taking aboit credibility and authenticity of opinions I'm talking about the attitude..
THEY CAN ISN'T THEY MUST GROW BY THEMSELVES.. Again strawman
Again don't project your views of your schism on me you have made it complicated for yourself we haven't
A man us a man and a woman is a woman with their respective attributes..to you it might not be and i couldn't care less but its clearly bigoted that you hate him for having a different view on masculinity which intrinsically isn't even toxic.
And no you don't know crap
Bring out any clip from the net that pertains to whatever you are calming dor me to debunk it.
Someone who hasn't come to a conclusions based on a preexisting bias*
I won't be recommending it if it was coz i'd look dumb
The first one is a strawman I'm not taking aboit credibility and authenticity of opinions I'm talking about the attitude..
THEY CAN ISN'T THEY MUST GROW BY THEMSELVES.. Again strawman
Again don't project your views of your schism on me you have made it complicated for yourself we haven't
A man us a man and a woman is a woman with their respective attributes..to you it might not be and i couldn't care less but its clearly bigoted that you hate him for having a different view on masculinity which intrinsically isn't even toxic.
And no you don't know crap
Bring out any clip from the net that pertains to whatever you are calming dor me to debunk it.
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Someone who hasn't come to a conclusions based on a preexisting bias*
I won't be recommending it if it was coz i'd look dumb
I didn't even know who Andrew Tate was until about a month ago when he got arrested(Tyrone Magnus made a video and I'm subscribed to the guy) and there seems to be 3 types of people:
1) Those who love him and don't believe any accusation agaisnt him
2) Those who hate him and believe every accusation against him
3) Those along for the ride and think he can be guilty or innocent depending on how it goes
Apparently he admitted to the crimes he committed, some of the crimes turned out to the made up, some of the clears are believed to be bribed, he has connections to the mafia etc. etc. It just goes on and on. Media gonna push either side of the extreme cause that's what's gonna get the viewership.
1) Those who love him and don't believe any accusation agaisnt him
2) Those who hate him and believe every accusation against him
3) Those along for the ride and think he can be guilty or innocent depending on how it goes
Apparently he admitted to the crimes he committed, some of the crimes turned out to the made up, some of the clears are believed to be bribed, he has connections to the mafia etc. etc. It just goes on and on. Media gonna push either side of the extreme cause that's what's gonna get the viewership.
https://www.lacriminaldefenseattorn...xt=This is a term used,he is put into custody.
https://lawreview.uchicago.edu/publication/defining-flight-risk
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/intimidatingAwitness.cfm
You can pick any law book you want and look for flight risk and witness tampering
But you wont, cause you are a fanboy and will only believe what fits your narrative
https://lawreview.uchicago.edu/publication/defining-flight-risk
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/intimidatingAwitness.cfm
You can pick any law book you want and look for flight risk and witness tampering
But you wont, cause you are a fanboy and will only believe what fits your narrative
Still no. I wasn't even talking about your point on attitude, I discarded your point completely. I was making a overall point about opinions in general.
Let me repeat that because you seems to have a problem with it:
All opinions are not equal.
Again, no. They can't. Growing healthy by ourselve is impossible by essence. We are a social specie, we need other people to survive. No strawmaning here, just reality.
I don't even understand what you are writing dude..
What does this even means ? You have said nothing here.
I love getting different views on masculinities. I just don't accept toxic ones. A.T's standpoint on masculinity is toxic. Simple. Easy to understand.
Damn.. You like this pizza turd that much ? Dude's toxicity is all over the internet.
Friendly advice: Click "play" on the video on my signature.