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Peroroncino

Peroroncino

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#402
#402
CarrotForNakama said:
This is a discussion forum.

Discussion means that values are clashing against one anothers. This can be during a powerscaling debate as it can be during the debate around the next Nakama.

This means that political values are ramping EVEN when you don't notice them. Creating sometimes toxic behaviors and toxic point of views and or debates.

You can't exclude politic from a space where everyone is sociallizing with one and other. It's simply naive. It means that you consider that values are not something we should be interested in, that toxicity is just "something that happens" that bad takes on subject are just the result of "bad apples".

Politic is in every choices you make toward society. Which means that here.. politic is everywhere, even if you don't notice it.

You can choose to get away from it, but you can't tell me that this is not the place to bring it to light.

You do understand that I'm advocating for the right of confusionnist poster like Bob to ALSO have the right to post thread.. right ? Or did you just read NOTHING I was saying here ?



I'm not a professionnal, some are more advanced on social struggle than I am. @Uncle Van has a better understanding of some of the political concept that I do, and I was awaiting his expertise on some of the subject. But this is gone now.
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you just said that it corrupts people or whatever, oh well:jordanmf:
 
Uncle Van

Uncle Van

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#403
TheAncientCenturion said:
An entire section on politics/religion (I'll leave out to controversy as people would intentionally bait it with bad faith threads) might be the likely outcome. I can hide the section from appearing on the "What's new" portion of the forum so irritated parties can go on in ignorance.

I won't be able to do it today though, unfortunately. I'm heading out in an hour and I need to get ready. I'll also need to discuss it with the rest of the staff.
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Yeah that would work. Then we gotta bring back the old threads like left space, right space, Bob x58 etc and move them there.
 
Logiko

Logiko

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Peroroncino said:
you just said that it corrupts people or whatever, oh well
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Yes.. but it has the right to exist too.


AL sama said:
I'll keep merging them doesn't matter what tac says
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Uncle Van said:
Yeah that would work. Then we gotta bring back the old threads like left space, right space, Bob x58 etc and move them there.
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I deleted the left space specifically because I understood that this was the wrong approach. I wanted to be more inclusive and positive. Until I was shut down

 
Logiko

Logiko

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#414
As no one is talking, let me grab the conversation for a moment. #ThePostThatStartedTheWar

So you all know that "Hogwarts Legacy" (the Harry Potter Universe's game) is coming up soon on february 10.

While I won't say to you "do not buy the game" (for reasons I will developp later) as you are all entitle to your opinions and choices of freetime, I think it's important to replace this game into its context.

First you must know one thing: People who worked on the game have already been paid. What you might not know on the other hand is that some people will receive money from copyright ownership. In short, the more the game will be sold, the more the money going to them. And among those people is - you guessed it - J K Rowling. Now I will talk about J K Rowling later but I want to talk about another subject first as I will try to be as inclusive as I can on this subject I will start at the basics:


Do you know who Transgender people are ?

It's okay if you don't, until a few years ago, I was completely oblivious to them and their struggles. First, a bit of basic:


As you may have understood here. It's important to separate sex and gender as those notion are scientifically and sociologically different.

Now, what being a Transgender really means ? I won't explain it to you, I will let Trans people tell you all about it:

From a science approach:


To a sociological approach:



It's important to understand that being Transgender is NOT a mental illness.


Therefore, all transgender people are VALID. They ALL deserve the same rights as Cisgender People. They deserve the same right as you and me.

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What is important here, is to understand that Trans people are DISCRIMINATED and OPPRESSED by our differents societies:

For diverse act of violence against trans people:


To people who are trying to criminilize Trans communities or those who help them through moral panics:

https://youtu.be/6r-Uga_oR28

https://youtu.be/oAeKAJFrb0w

https://youtu.be/ErRmflBW4Zk

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This is where we need to talk about J K Rowling.

You see J K Rowling is now an well know anti Trans activist. She is what we call a "TERF", "a Trans-exclusionary radical feminist". "A person whose views on gender identity are considered hostile to transgender people, or who opposes social and political policies designed to be inclusive of transgender people."

https://youtu.be/_GBUArD51KY?t=817

Terf are known to be transphobe, this is not a news. But what is starting to become more concerning is the fact that this transphobe ideology (and JK Rowling as well as her followers) is starting to flirt with really DARK movements: the alt-right and fascist kinds.

(This following one is actually quite horrific)

https://youtu.be/Ou_xvXJJk7k

https://youtu.be/XyODMw6Xm-8


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This is where WE can have an influence:

You see, by refusing to finance those people, we are actually lessening the probabilities of those dark transphobes ideology to be shared. That's why it's important to understand where your money will go once you buy property owned by those type of people.

https://youtu.be/rdfNQIOIReU

This is not a thread meant to culpabilize you. You would be completely legitimate to buy a game like Hogward Legacy, after all it looks like a cool game and I would LOVE to play it also.. but...

At least, you have the context.

While it might be the best Harry Potter game. Buying that game, is beneficial to the anti trans politics.

Now, You have all the informations to make a good choice.
 
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Bisoromi Bear

Bisoromi Bear

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#415
#415
CarrotForNakama said:
As no one is talking, let me grab the conversation for a moment.

So you all know that "Hogwarts Legacy" (the Harry Potter Universe's game) is coming up soon on february 10.

While I won't say to you "do not buy the game" (for reasons I will developp later) as you are all entitle to your opinions and choices of freetime, I think it's important to replace this game into its context.

First you must know one thing: People who worked on the game have already been paid. What you might not know on the other hand is that some people will receive money from copyright ownership. In short, the more the game will be sold, the more the money going to them. And among those people is - you guessed it - J K Rowling. Now I will talk about J K Rowling later but I want to talk about another subject first as I will try to be as inclusive as I can on this subject I will start at the basics:


Do you know who Transgender people are ?

It's okay if you don't, until a few years ago, I was completely oblivious to them and their struggles. First, a bit of basic:


As you may have understood here. It's important to separate sex and gender as those notion are scientifically and sociologically different.

Now, what being a Transgender really means ? I won't explain it to you, I will let Trans people tell you all about it:

From a science approach:


To a sociological approach:



It's important to understand that being Transgender is NOT a mental illness.


Therefore, all transgender people are VALID. They ALL deserve the same rights as Cisgender People. They deserve the same right as you and me.

-----

What is important here, is to understand that Trans people are DISCRIMINATED and OPPRESSED by our differents societies:

For diverse act of violence against trans people:


To people who are trying to criminilize Trans communities or those who help them through moral panics:

https://youtu.be/6r-Uga_oR28

https://youtu.be/oAeKAJFrb0w

https://youtu.be/ErRmflBW4Zk

-----

This is where we need to talk about J K Rowling.

You see J K Rowling is now an well know anti Trans activist. She is what we call a "TERF", "a Trans-exclusionary radical feminist". "A person whose views on gender identity are considered hostile to transgender people, or who opposes social and political policies designed to be inclusive of transgender people."

https://youtu.be/_GBUArD51KY?t=817

Terf are known to be transphobe, this is not a news. But what is starting to become more concerning is the fact that this transphobe ideology (and JK Rowling as well as her followers) is starting to flirt with really DARK movements: the alt-right and fascist kinds.

(This following one is actually quite horrific)

https://youtu.be/Ou_xvXJJk7k

https://youtu.be/XyODMw6Xm-8


------

This is where WE can have an influence:

You see, by refusing to finance those people, we are actually lessening the probabilities of those dark transphobes ideology to be shared. That's why it's important to understand where your money will go once you buy property owned by those type of people.

https://youtu.be/rdfNQIOIReU

This is not a thread meant to culpabilize you. You would be completely legitimate to buy a game like Hogward Legacy, after all it looks like a cool game and I would LOVE to play it also.. but...

At least, you have the context.

While it might be the best Harry Potter game. Buying that game, is beneficial to the anti trans politics.

Now, You have all the informations to make a good choice.
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This sounds like a campaign text mate
 
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