Character Discussion Sad Man, the Moon, Blackbeard's Ancestor, betrayed and Eclipsed Joy Boy, the Sun, to cause the Void Century

[Albino 👑]

No lol
The Moon has a much bigger significance, not just for Blackbeard
Also there is Crescent Moon & Full Moon, they don't represent the same thing

As for people thinking Luffy is The Sun & he gonna replace Earth (Imu)
Why do they follow the far-fetched Idea when we already have seen a Sun replacing an Earth that had Five Original Humans connected by it

Didn't Straw Hat Crew start with Five Members? Didn't they have an Original Ship that was replaced by a Ship called "Thousand Sunny"?!
Now let me ask you, Five Original Planets were named after:

God of Travel
God of Love
God of War
King of The Gods
God of Agriculture

Doesn't this remind you of Luffy? (King) Zoro? (War) Nami? (Travel) Usopp (Agriculture) & Sanji? (Love)
So we have Main's Story Original Five Planets & Going Merry represent their Earth which was later replaced by Thousand Sunny that represents The Sun, how many SHs did they Recruit "After" Thousand Sunny was built? Three ofc, they recruited Franky, Brook & Jinbe

So we also have our Three New Planets
That only leaves us with Robin & Chopper who apparently represent Full Moon & Crescent Moon

However, while it's Symbolic with SHs, in World Government side, it's Literal!
The Earth & Sun aren't represented by Characters, Gorosei are indeed the ones believed to rule the World (Earth)

But apparently they want "Earth" to be replaced by "Sun". The Literal Sun
Suggesting that there is a Kingdom inside the Sun & that's where Gorosei want WG to rule from
However, in doing so, they will end up abandoning Earth

Oda literally hinted at this Plot in almost every Arc
Enel wanted to Rule The Moon instead & he was gonna destroy Skypiea
Blackbeard wanted to take over WB's Territory & he was gonna destroy Marineford
Kaidou wanted to create New Onigashima & he was gonna destroy Wano Capital
Shiki in Film Strong World
Krieg replacing his Ship with Baratie
Kuro abandoning his Crew cuz he wanted to take over Kaya's Place
And many other examples

The Idea is that Villains wanna transition to a New Kingdom that suits them better & in doing so, they will abandon the old one.
Haven't you seen Ennies Lobby Sun? It's Permanant
It's obvious that WG Worship the Sun, it's no their Enemy, they even call themselves "Celestial Dragons"
You think they call themselves Celestial but don't dream of going beyond this Blue Planet?
You think they resemble Astronauts but only dream of living in some Castle on a Red Mountain?
Why do you think they want Lunarians?

The Sun isn't Luffy & Earth isn't Imu, they are the Literal Earth & Sun
And just like Gorosei worship The Sun, Three others named after Remaining Planets also worship The Sun or at least show Great Love for

Which leaves us with Full Moon & Crescent Moon
And just like Robin & Chopper did sail on Going Merry, but when it reached it's End, Chopper was still with them while Robin left
That means there are two others who are Ruling the World alongside Gorosei but when their Plan to change the World starts, one is gonna stand with them, while one is gonna abandon them

And just like Moon have Two Sides, this is someone who also has Two Sides & is ruling alongside Gorosei & that's none other than Imu.
Who i explained before means both Adam + Eve (Chopper ate Human DF hinting at Adam Role & Robin obviously represents Eve)

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Conclusion:

Original Five SHs = Five Original Planets
Going Merry = Earth
Chopper = Earth's Full Moon (Adam)
Robin = Earth's Crescent Moon (Eve)
Three Last SHs = Three New Planets
Thousand Sunny = The Sun

This was a Foreshadowing for:

Gorosei = Five Original Planets
Imu = Full Moon & Crescent Moon (Two Persons in One)

Gorosei wants to replace "Earth" with "Sun"
Male Version of Imu will remain with Gorosei (Meaning he is Evil)
Female Version of Imu will Betray the Gorosei (Meaning She is Good)

Just like this Picture:

Luffy sun God

People used to think the planets revolved around the earth. It surprisingly doesn't but resolves around the sun instead

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Wait, Tama is a Kurozumi? Is this confirmed?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1533826926409809922

This combined with the purple hair was enough for me.

I think Yamato and Tama are going to have a bad time in Wano once people realize that Yamato is Kaido's child and Tama is a Kurozumi.

That's why Oda had this crazy, borderline racist shit at the end of Wano:

He's setting up Tama being hunted down as a Kurozumi, to show that Wano is still crazy and racist. Because Wano is still crazy and racist (and sexist, too). Luffy librerated the place, but they sure as hell haven't learned why trying to murder the entire Kurozumi clan was a dumb idea in the first place.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

No lol
The Moon has a much bigger significance, not just for Blackbeard
Also there is Crescent Moon & Full Moon, they don't represent the same thing

As for people thinking Luffy is The Sun & he gonna replace Earth (Imu)
Why do they follow the far-fetched Idea when we already have seen a Sun replacing an Earth that had Five Original Humans connected by it

Didn't Straw Hat Crew start with Five Members? Didn't they have an Original Ship that was replaced by a Ship called "Thousand Sunny"?!
Now let me ask you, Five Original Planets were named after:

God of Travel
God of Love
God of War
King of The Gods
God of Agriculture

Doesn't this remind you of Luffy? (King) Zoro? (War) Nami? (Travel) Usopp (Agriculture) & Sanji? (Love)
So we have Main's Story Original Five Planets & Going Merry represent their Earth which was later replaced by Thousand Sunny that represents The Sun, how many SHs did they Recruit "After" Thousand Sunny was built? Three ofc, they recruited Franky, Brook & Jinbe

So we also have our Three New Planets
That only leaves us with Robin & Chopper who apparently represent Full Moon & Crescent Moon

However, while it's Symbolic with SHs, in World Government side, it's Literal!
The Earth & Sun aren't represented by Characters, Gorosei are indeed the ones believed to rule the World (Earth)

But apparently they want "Earth" to be replaced by "Sun". The Literal Sun
Suggesting that there is a Kingdom inside the Sun & that's where Gorosei want WG to rule from
However, in doing so, they will end up abandoning Earth

Oda literally hinted at this Plot in almost every Arc
Enel wanted to Rule The Moon instead & he was gonna destroy Skypiea
Blackbeard wanted to take over WB's Territory & he was gonna destroy Marineford
Kaidou wanted to create New Onigashima & he was gonna destroy Wano Capital
Shiki in Film Strong World
Krieg replacing his Ship with Baratie
Kuro abandoning his Crew cuz he wanted to take over Kaya's Place
And many other examples

The Idea is that Villains wanna transition to a New Kingdom that suits them better & in doing so, they will abandon the old one.
Haven't you seen Ennies Lobby Sun? It's Permanant
It's obvious that WG Worship the Sun, it's no their Enemy, they even call themselves "Celestial Dragons"
You think they call themselves Celestial but don't dream of going beyond this Blue Planet?
You think they resemble Astronauts but only dream of living in some Castle on a Red Mountain?
Why do you think they want Lunarians?

The Sun isn't Luffy & Earth isn't Imu, they are the Literal Earth & Sun
And just like Gorosei worship The Sun, Three others named after Remaining Planets also worship The Sun or at least show Great Love for

Which leaves us with Full Moon & Crescent Moon
And just like Robin & Chopper did sail on Going Merry, but when it reached it's End, Chopper was still with them while Robin left
That means there are two others who are Ruling the World alongside Gorosei but when their Plan to change the World starts, one is gonna stand with them, while one is gonna abandon them

And just like Moon have Two Sides, this is someone who also has Two Sides & is ruling alongside Gorosei & that's none other than Imu.
Who i explained before means both Adam + Eve (Chopper ate Human DF hinting at Adam Role & Robin obviously represents Eve)

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Conclusion:

Original Five SHs = Five Original Planets
Going Merry = Earth
Chopper = Earth's Full Moon (Adam)
Robin = Earth's Crescent Moon (Eve)
Three Last SHs = Three New Planets
Thousand Sunny = The Sun

This was a Foreshadowing for:

Gorosei = Five Original Planets
Imu = Full Moon & Crescent Moon (Two Persons in One)

Gorosei wants to replace "Earth" with "Sun"
Male Version of Imu will remain with Gorosei (Meaning he is Evil)
Female Version of Imu will Betray the Gorosei (Meaning She is Good)

Just like this Picture:

**** what?

 

[Salah WG]

Luffy sun God

People used to think the planets revolved around the earth. It surprisingly doesn't but resolves around the sun instead

Proceeds by showing me a Panel of Luffy in middle of Full Moon
And if Luffy is The Sun, so that means Gorosei will become Luffy's Underlings? lol

 

[Reborn]

No lol
The Moon has a much bigger significance, not just for Blackbeard
Also there is Crescent Moon & Full Moon, they don't represent the same thing

As for people thinking Luffy is The Sun & he gonna replace Earth (Imu)
Why do they follow the far-fetched Idea when we already have seen a Sun replacing an Earth that had Five Original Humans connected by it

Didn't Straw Hat Crew start with Five Members? Didn't they have an Original Ship that was replaced by a Ship called "Thousand Sunny"?!
Now let me ask you, Five Original Planets were named after:

God of Travel
God of Love
God of War
King of The Gods
God of Agriculture

Doesn't this remind you of Luffy? (King) Zoro? (War) Nami? (Travel) Usopp (Agriculture) & Sanji? (Love)
So we have Main's Story Original Five Planets & Going Merry represent their Earth which was later replaced by Thousand Sunny that represents The Sun, how many SHs did they Recruit "After" Thousand Sunny was built? Three ofc, they recruited Franky, Brook & Jinbe

So we also have our Three New Planets
That only leaves us with Robin & Chopper who apparently represent Full Moon & Crescent Moon

However, while it's Symbolic with SHs, in World Government side, it's Literal!
The Earth & Sun aren't represented by Characters, Gorosei are indeed the ones believed to rule the World (Earth)

But apparently they want "Earth" to be replaced by "Sun". The Literal Sun
Suggesting that there is a Kingdom inside the Sun & that's where Gorosei want WG to rule from
However, in doing so, they will end up abandoning Earth

Oda literally hinted at this Plot in almost every Arc
Enel wanted to Rule The Moon instead & he was gonna destroy Skypiea
Blackbeard wanted to take over WB's Territory & he was gonna destroy Marineford
Kaidou wanted to create New Onigashima & he was gonna destroy Wano Capital
Shiki in Film Strong World
Krieg replacing his Ship with Baratie
Kuro abandoning his Crew cuz he wanted to take over Kaya's Place
And many other examples

The Idea is that Villains wanna transition to a New Kingdom that suits them better & in doing so, they will abandon the old one.
Haven't you seen Ennies Lobby Sun? It's Permanant
It's obvious that WG Worship the Sun, it's no their Enemy, they even call themselves "Celestial Dragons"
You think they call themselves Celestial but don't dream of going beyond this Blue Planet?
You think they resemble Astronauts but only dream of living in some Castle on a Red Mountain?
Why do you think they want Lunarians?

The Sun isn't Luffy & Earth isn't Imu, they are the Literal Earth & Sun
And just like Gorosei worship The Sun, Three others named after Remaining Planets also worship The Sun or at least show Great Love for

Which leaves us with Full Moon & Crescent Moon
And just like Robin & Chopper did sail on Going Merry, but when it reached it's End, Chopper was still with them while Robin left
That means there are two others who are Ruling the World alongside Gorosei but when their Plan to change the World starts, one is gonna stand with them, while one is gonna abandon them

And just like Moon have Two Sides, this is someone who also has Two Sides & is ruling alongside Gorosei & that's none other than Imu.
Who i explained before means both Adam + Eve (Chopper ate Human DF hinting at Adam Role & Robin obviously represents Eve)

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Conclusion:

Original Five SHs = Five Original Planets
Going Merry = Earth
Chopper = Earth's Full Moon (Adam)
Robin = Earth's Crescent Moon (Eve)
Three Last SHs = Three New Planets
Thousand Sunny = The Sun

This was a Foreshadowing for:

Gorosei = Five Original Planets
Imu = Full Moon & Crescent Moon (Two Persons in One)

Gorosei wants to replace "Earth" with "Sun"
Male Version of Imu will remain with Gorosei (Meaning he is Evil)
Female Version of Imu will Betray the Gorosei (Meaning She is Good)

Just like this Picture:

Bro you are thinking too much.

Oda won't complex things like that.


There is only one who fits in being the moon and that is BB


He doesn't sleep and we have picture of him sitting in front of moon

A D and was marked by IMU which means he is highly significant and also has ties with the past because everyone marked by IMu had role during ancient kingdom in someway

He is polar opposite of luffy - with luffy being nika - sun god, BB being moon fits well because


1)when sun appears moon disappear or not visible during day

2)Moon is visible only at night (remember BB doesn't sleep and has dark theme)

3)Two celestial bodies clearly visible from earth are - Sun and Moon and both appear on opposite time of the day/night

 

[Redboy776]

TLDR: Blackbeard's ancestor Sad Man/Moon was jealous, and betrayed Joy Boy/Sun. Sad Man used his Darkness powers to Eclipse Joy Boy's powers, allowing Im/Uranus and the Gorosei to defeat Joy Boy, and replace him as "Gods". Sad Man was then betrayed by Imu, and Rocks/Blackbeard want to get revenge on the World Government for denying them the God-hood they were promised.

Blackbeard is controlled by Sad Man, and Luffy will defeat Sad Man in order to free Blackbeard from his Ancestor's sins, making Blackbeard become Marshall D. Teach. The D clan, the Dawn tribe, will reunite, Joy Boy will forgive Sad Man for his betrayal, and they will stand together to defeat the false Gods who caused the Eclipse that created the Void Century: the century void of light.

The recent astrological/astronomical focus in One Piece made me realize (like many others) that if Luffy is the Sun, Blackbeard is most likely the Moon. While it's possible Imu could be the moon, since Imu seems to be connected to the Ancient Weapon Uranus, it's much more likely Imu serves as Uranus, with Shirahoshi being Neptune, and Momo being Pluto.

So, let's say Blackbeard is the Moon, and Luffy is the Sun. This sets up their rivalry perfectly, and explains everything: the Moon eclipses the Sun. In some mythology, this is because the Moon WAS JEALOUS of the Sun's light, and wished for people to only look upon it. The Moon can only shine through the Sun's light, after all. Without the Sun, it is what? Darkness.

Before The Dawn, there was The Eclipse. This is how Imu and the WG gained power: the Sun was weakened/Eclipsed, by the Moon, making it so the rest of the planets (Imu + the Gorosei + the Ancient Weapons possibly) could overtake the Sun.

Blackbeard's Ancestor (I'll call him... Sad Man...) was jealous of Joy Boy, and his great power, even while working alongside him. He knew he could never shine as bright as the Sun, Joy Boy. Imu, seeing this jealousy, convinced Sad Man to betray Joy Boy, and offered him great power. However, Sad Man, after betraying Joy Boy, was also betrayed: Imu, knowing Sad Man could not be trusted, destroyed him as well.

That is the sin of Rocks' and Teach's bloodline, and why they wish to destroy the World Government: because they were betrayed by those they betrayed for. Rocks wanted to become King of the World, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS STOLEN FROM HIS FAMILY. Uranus/Imu promised Moon/Sad Man a place at the Gorosei's table, or, maybe, even an equal partnership. So, Sad Man used his powers of Darkness to "Eclipse" the Sun, Joy Boy, and his powers.

This is why the Final War is inevitable (Doflamingo is probably aware of a lot of this): Blackbeard's family is always going to want blood, for how they were betrayed, while the Ancient Kingdom/Joy Boy side wants to bring about the Dawn, leading to a three way between Uranus/Imu and the Planets/Gorosei, the Sun/Joy Boy, the Moon/Sad Man, with the Ancient Weapons being used as pieces to fight.

This betrayal with Blackeard also ties directly back to Orochi in Wano. Orochi couldn't shine as bright as Oden, so, he eclipsed him. But, no matter how much he tried, Orochi could only shine by stealing Oden's light: even Orcohi's own propaganda involved him using Oden's Two Sword Style. Eventually, Orochi was betrayed by the man he betrayed Oden with: Kaido. So, then, Orochi tried to backstab Kaido as well with the fire. This has all happened before.

However, AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, Luffy will break the cycle, BY REDEEMING BLACKBEARD and making him an ally. Luffy is the one who STOPS these cycles of revenge and violence. Luffy freed Wano, by making a Kurozumi like Tama befriend a Kozuki like Momo, by making Yamato accepted as a defender of Wano, rather than hated as Kaido's child.

Nothing will change if Luffy tries to kill Blackbeard, once realizing why he is the way he is (I fully expect Rocks/Sad Man to also be controlling Blackbeard on some level). Luffy has to beat Rocks/Sad Man, to SAVE Blackbeard from that fate. That is why Blackbeard cries when he looks at the moon. It's not only his home on some level probably, connected to the Ancient Kingdom, but he is cursed to always be Eclipsed by not only Joy Boy, but his own Ancestors' sins.



Luffy will free Blackbeard from his past: and he, instead, will become Marshall D. Teach, the man who will overcome his Ancestor's betrayal, and help Joy Boy, the King of the Pirates, defeat Imu, Uranus, the false God who Eclipsed the Sun during the Void Century: the century void of light. The century of darkness. The century where the Sun was killed, and replaced.

The Dawn will only come when the clan of D(awn) reunites. When the Sun and Moon are in harmony again.


(One more fun fact: the reason the astronomical model of the solar system in the Library of Ohara is revolving around the planet they live on, not the sun, is because the sun is not viewed as the center of the solar system, the earth is. The WG doesn't want people thinking the world revolves around the sun, the Celestial Dragons want the world to believe that everything revolves around them, LOL)

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Great theory.

Blackbeard is likely the Moon.

 

[Reborn]

Nah BB won't be redeemed. He's Luffy's foil in the narrative, and two of the themes if OP is fate and history repeating itself. In the past the villains win and when history starts to repeat in the present, the villains would've won again if not for Luffy, changing fate. Luffy for example is Joyboy, but Joyboy still ultimately failed. Luffy this time around is gonna succeed. Oden tried liberating Wano and failed. History repeated itself but this time Wano was saved. In the past the Buster Call wiped Robin's home from existence. In the present it would've happened again but Luffy saves the day once more. Happens again and again.

IMU marked him along with luffy.

In someway BB was linked with Ancient civilization - Just like how luffy is Joyboy.

If Marshal family also got betrayed by IMU and considering links between Xebec and BB, I won't count BB playing role in IMU downfall after Luffy beats him

 

[Albino 👑]

Proceeds by showing me a Panel of Luffy in middle of Full Moon
And if Luffy is The Sun, so that means Gorosei will become Luffy's Underlings? lol

Yes its night time lol
Nika is the sun god
Luffy is the perfect representation of the sun. Luffy is the guy who will bring the dawn

I dont remember ever saying that so no lol

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

IMU marked him along with luffy.

In someway BB was linked with Ancient civilization - Just like how luffy is Joyboy.

If Marshal family also got betrayed by IMU and considering links between Xebec and BB, I won't count BB playing role in IMU downfall after Luffy beats him

It depends on what Blackbeard wants more: to rule the world, or to destroy Imu and the WG. If Blackbeard's overall goal is to destroy the WG, and Luffy also wants to do that, then why the fuck would Blackbeard fight him?

Blackbeard is an opportunist, if he knew Luffy wanted the same thing he did, he'd at the least leave Luffy alone, and let him fight the WG his own way, I'd imagine. Blackbeard hates pointless fights.

 

[Salah WG]

Yes its night time lol
Nika is the sun god
Luffy is the perfect representation of the sun. Luffy is the guy who will bring the dawn

I dont remember ever saying that so no lol

Did i say Luffy won't bring The Dawn? lol
But Five Planets revolve around the Sun
So they gonna be Luffy's Underlings later if he is the Sun
That's what you people are saying

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1)when sun appears moon disappear or not visible during day

2)Moon is visible only at night (remember BB doesn't sleep and has dark theme)

Go check your Scientific Knowledge again please

 

[The White Crane]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1533826926409809922

This combined with the purple hair was enough for me.

I think Yamato and Tama are going to have a bad time in Wano once people realize that Yamato is Kaido's child and Tama is a Kurozumi.

That's why Oda had this crazy, borderline racist shit at the end of Wano:

He's setting up Tama being hunted down as a Kurozumi, to show that Wano is still crazy and racist. Because Wano is still crazy and racist (and sexist, too). Luffy librerated the place, but they sure as hell haven't learned why trying to murder the entire Kurozumi clan was a dumb idea in the first place.

Not that I disagree, but how will Tama being hunted down be relevant if this were the case? Who else is going to protect her aside from Yamato? And what is the endgame of this possibility?

 

[Albino 👑]

Did i say Luffy won't bring The Dawn? lol
But Five Planets revolve around the Sun
So they gonna be Luffy's Underlings later if he is the Sun
That's what you people are saying

?
No all im sayin is luffy represents the sun. No one is saying the gorosei will follow luffy

Will their eventually be new represents of each plant that will allie with luffy in some way? Maybe
Will they all be strawhats? No

 

[NikaInParis]

Sad Man?

Soy Boy

 

[CensoredbyWG]

This feels like Naruto level writing…

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I prefer gohdroger theory tbh with imu being god of earth, luffy the sun, dragon the Rain and Luffy's mother probably being the nature

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Not that I disagree, but how will Tama being hunted down be relevant if this were the case? Who else is going to protect her aside from Yamato? And what is the endgame of this possibility?

I still believe the Straw Hats are going back to Wano Act 4, when Blackbeard (and probably Cross Guild) go after Pluton.

Tama's relevance is the same as Yamato's (and Neku and Inu, possibly Carrot): to overcome the discrimination in Wano.

Oden, for all his flaws, wanted to make a country where people could freely exchange ideas, and where people from all over the world could come, but Wano still can't admit hunting down the Kurozumi were wrong, and that Kanjuro and Orochi would have never become the monsters they did if they hadn't been emotionally scarred at young ages by that "cleansing".

This connects straight back to Imu and the "Great Cleaning" mentioned alongside them. What Wano did to the Kurozumi is a smaller example of what happens all over the story: groups of people are blamed and villainized. Oda is showing us that the "good guys" aren't perfect. Wano IS FUCKED UP. That's the entire point.

Wano IS racist, and needs to change if it actually wants to stand against people like Aramaki and the Celestial Dragons, who worship prejudice. Yes, the WG is worse with their slaves, but, Oda is showing that Wano, and the Ancient Kingdom, also had this problem. The fear of the unknown, the fear of the "other" of other races like the Fishman, is what has caused all these problems. Wano isn't innocent.

Oda is setting up Wano, and the Ancient Kingdom, to have made the same mistakes as the WG. Kaido hated Wano, I believe, because he knew they had a history of discriminating against Oni. I think Wano did BAD things to the Oni race in the past.

Wano needs to open its borders by making it so that Yamato isn't discriminated for being an Oni, or Kaido's child. To make it so that Tama isn't discriminated and hunted because she's a Kurozumi. To make it so that people from other places and races are welcome, rather than nearly murdered like Neku, Inu, and Kawamatsu when they first arrived on Wano's shore.

That's why the end of the arc was frustrating, it was supposed to be. The people of Wano have learned nothing, and are doomed to repeat their failures. That's what Tama, a Kurozumi, Yamato, Kaido's child, and Momo, the Kokuzi Shogun, coming together means: Wano finally overcoming its xenophobia and discrimination.

So, Tama exists to prove that Wano needs to be woke.

 

[Salah WG]

?
No all im sayin is luffy represents the sun. No one is saying the gorosei will follow luffy

Will their eventually be new represents of each plant that will allie with luffy in some way? Maybe
Will they all be strawhats? No

Did i say they represent Straw Hats? lol
U clearly didn't bother to read what i wrote

Dude, if Gorosei represent Five Planets, then the Earth is something they are directly related to exclusively
And the Sun is gonna replace that Earth, so Gorosei must aim or gonna have that same exclusive relationship with the Sun as well

Luffy isn't the Sun in this Pattern

 

[Reborn]

It depends on what Blackbeard wants more: to rule the world, or to destroy Imu and the WG. If Blackbeard's overall goal is to destroy the WG, and Luffy also wants to do that, then why the fuck would Blackbeard fight him?

Blackbeard is an opportunist, if he knew Luffy wanted the same thing he did, he'd at the least leave Luffy alone, and let him fight the WG his own way, I'd imagine. Blackbeard hates pointless fights.

BB will fight luffy. That's given. Too much going on between them

Did i say Luffy won't bring The Dawn? lol
But Five Planets revolve around the Sun
So they gonna be Luffy's Underlings later if he is the Sun
That's what you people are saying

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Go check your Scientific Knowledge again please

I didn't say anything wrong to check my scientific knowledge lol


Moon isn't visible during day easily from Earth because of SUn brightness. Specifically from naked eye.

At night, Sun is below horizon so moon becomes visible at night

 

[eleber]

Definitely agree with you that BB represents the moon, but I don't think he will team up with Luffy when he's like his opposite.

Sadman is also a goofy name, I hope its something else

Grief Guy

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Grief Guy

Bitter Bro

 

[Apollo]

Bitter Bro

Depression Dude