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To be fair u said something so simple that I don't even know why you are quoting me since you understand the concept.
You repeat everything textbook self-proclaimed rights defenders do. You are irrelevant and u only waste ur energy fighting something that doesn't exist which is ur imagination caused by something.
The world has been constructed thousands of years ago with minor changes over the years. People progress but that doesn't mean they are blindly following the made-up ideals coming from the internet loudmouths.
There are people who support something but also people who will disagree over the same thing and it's never going to change.
You label yourself as the defender of what is right and fighting what is wrong but in reality, you are just hitting a wall because normal people don't even bother about 99% of the stuff you present here online.
All people have to do is respect each other. If someone dislikes something that doesn't automatically mean he is "PHOBIC of something" as you tend to abuse to fit ur narrative.
You'd be born the next 50 times and die 50 times and the world will still operate as it always was.
Different countries different people. Some people grow up in an environment where certain things you deem normal are weird to them and likewise, something is weird to you which is normal for them and etc etc...
That doesn't automatically mean they are phobic or aggressive. You can still respect each other.
ps. Just a simple question to clarify what type of a person you are.
Let's say you have a friend since childhood days, one day you ask him what he thinks about trans people "or insert anything you have a good opinion about" and he says he finds them weird and that he is not willing to change his mind because that's what he believes and he is entitled to his opinion.
Are you going to forget all these years of sharing joy and fun with him and simply tell him off and cut the ties because he has a different worldview from you?
You repeat everything textbook self-proclaimed rights defenders do. You are irrelevant and u only waste ur energy fighting something that doesn't exist which is ur imagination caused by something.
The world has been constructed thousands of years ago with minor changes over the years. People progress but that doesn't mean they are blindly following the made-up ideals coming from the internet loudmouths.
There are people who support something but also people who will disagree over the same thing and it's never going to change.
You label yourself as the defender of what is right and fighting what is wrong but in reality, you are just hitting a wall because normal people don't even bother about 99% of the stuff you present here online.
All people have to do is respect each other. If someone dislikes something that doesn't automatically mean he is "PHOBIC of something" as you tend to abuse to fit ur narrative.
You'd be born the next 50 times and die 50 times and the world will still operate as it always was.
Different countries different people. Some people grow up in an environment where certain things you deem normal are weird to them and likewise, something is weird to you which is normal for them and etc etc...
That doesn't automatically mean they are phobic or aggressive. You can still respect each other.
ps. Just a simple question to clarify what type of a person you are.
Let's say you have a friend since childhood days, one day you ask him what he thinks about trans people "or insert anything you have a good opinion about" and he says he finds them weird and that he is not willing to change his mind because that's what he believes and he is entitled to his opinion.
Are you going to forget all these years of sharing joy and fun with him and simply tell him off and cut the ties because he has a different worldview from you?
Yes, and it is as simple as XY is male and XX is female. Obviously i'm talking about the majority, intersex accounts only 1.7% from what i read and they say the result is too overconfident as it has many errors. And of that 1.7%, only a minority has combined male and female chromosomes, the rest still have complete male or female chromosome as normal male or female do, but their genital dont develop enough. The latter are still either male or female. So it is much less than 1.7% of the entire population, and obviously most trans people dont fall into this category of sex
He was almost 80 in 2020, but that’s all the more reason why Hillary and the DNC killing his chances in 2016 still pisses me off, Bernie was more progressive in every regard and could have made Donnie look like a dipshit much more effectively 
What was he supposed to do at that point? It was the second straight cycle where that happened, guy’s gotta take the hint eventually…if anything, it was more overt in ’20 when shills like Warren and Buttigieg started sucking up to Joe in a way they didn’t do for Hillary, at least Bernie wasn’t dickriding just to get into pole position for a Cabinet spot 
What was he supposed to do at that point? It was the second straight cycle where that happened, guy’s gotta take the hint eventually…if anything, it was more overt in ’20 when shills like Warren and Buttigieg started sucking up to Joe in a way they didn’t do for Hillary, at least Bernie wasn’t dickriding just to get into pole position for a Cabinet spot
I suppose, but he’s done more than enough when his whole body of work is considered, and he’s still one of the few progressive voices in the cacophony of lobbyist puppets that comprise Congress…the movement itself needs better packaging than an angry Jewish socialist nearing the end of his career in public service, it’s in the hands of AOC/the Squad et al. going forward so the ball is theirs to fumble.
i'm not an expert, but I think that's it yeah.
Oh come on. My speech was so good, I was so proud of it!! Why do you need to spoil it by replying.. you re not funny bro
And in the mind of thousands and in the data of scientists.. and.. and.. well that's enough already.
Indeed.. because right now.. following blindly what the hegemony of internet is saying would be to follow discourse of alt-right propagandists like yourself. Nah.. right now we are in the shadow.. but we are coming for you guys, don't worry..
The reality of the existence of trans people is not an opinion, it's a fact.
I'm the defender of nothing, I only do things by pure interest. I want a better fanbase just because I don't want people to look at us and say "look at those One Piece fans... they are all toxic".. sorry not sorry, I don't want that. This is quite egotistical in fact.
You are not a normal people. Normal people don't deny science.
I know you have hard time understanding this concept. But the term "oppression" means that EVEN a stated opinion on something can be hurtfull for someone. Words hurt mate, words can kill.
You mean like in the span of 5 years, we got :
- #BlackLiveMatter
- #Metoo
- And Covid19
And you don't see the changes those things have created ? You must not be paying enough attention here..
It depends on the things they say and do to others.
Why would I stay friend with someone who nomatter what we say to them, will never be willing to change their mind ?
Such person is highly toxic.
Without saying that transphobia usually come as a package, meaning that with transphobia, you will sometimes find fragments of alt right ideas like antisemitism / antifeminism / Racism / Sexism / Toxic masculinity and sometimes straight up fascism so from this moment I would be very careful with that person.
I would, first, check the potential clues for alt right radicalization (the things I'm seeing with you for example) if there is nothing, I wouldn't cut ties and I would not force my point of view on them. Instead, I would surround both of us with trans people. And I can ASSURE you that in the span of 1 year, this person will change their mind.
If - on the contrary - I detect signs of al right radicalization like detect some with you, I would, first, try to change their mind by every means necessary, with words, with actions, with representation of different kinds, with sensibilization and if they don't wanna change, it's BUE BUY.
I will not surround myself with neofascists.
Oh come on. My speech was so good, I was so proud of it!! Why do you need to spoil it by replying.. you re not funny bro
And in the mind of thousands and in the data of scientists.. and.. and.. well that's enough already.
Indeed.. because right now.. following blindly what the hegemony of internet is saying would be to follow discourse of alt-right propagandists like yourself. Nah.. right now we are in the shadow.. but we are coming for you guys, don't worry..
The reality of the existence of trans people is not an opinion, it's a fact.
I'm the defender of nothing, I only do things by pure interest. I want a better fanbase just because I don't want people to look at us and say "look at those One Piece fans... they are all toxic".. sorry not sorry, I don't want that. This is quite egotistical in fact.
You are not a normal people. Normal people don't deny science.
I know you have hard time understanding this concept. But the term "oppression" means that EVEN a stated opinion on something can be hurtfull for someone. Words hurt mate, words can kill.
You mean like in the span of 5 years, we got :
- #BlackLiveMatter
- #Metoo
- And Covid19
And you don't see the changes those things have created ? You must not be paying enough attention here..
It depends on the things they say and do to others.
Why would I stay friend with someone who nomatter what we say to them, will never be willing to change their mind ?
Such person is highly toxic.
Without saying that transphobia usually come as a package, meaning that with transphobia, you will sometimes find fragments of alt right ideas like antisemitism / antifeminism / Racism / Sexism / Toxic masculinity and sometimes straight up fascism so from this moment I would be very careful with that person.
I would, first, check the potential clues for alt right radicalization (the things I'm seeing with you for example) if there is nothing, I wouldn't cut ties and I would not force my point of view on them. Instead, I would surround both of us with trans people. And I can ASSURE you that in the span of 1 year, this person will change their mind.
If - on the contrary - I detect signs of al right radicalization like detect some with you, I would, first, try to change their mind by every means necessary, with words, with actions, with representation of different kinds, with sensibilization and if they don't wanna change, it's BUE BUY.
I will not surround myself with neofascists.
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You will always be in the shadows. You self-proclaimed defenders are a minority and only scream and whine online. You have no effect on the overall structure of the world.
Those things happened because of terrible things that caused but don't overblow it out of proportion, it was used for the cause of evil doings too. Especially Covid.
Knowledge and information have big power, sure.
Some dude online saying "I dislike trans people/I dislike XYZ" is not harmful to anyone💀
So, you are acting like a defender of every single Twitter popular topic to please yourself but try to hide it under a coat named "I want better fanbase".
Fanbases of XYZ are always toxic/fun. You can find toxic and fun people in every community. One Piece fans are indeed toxic and delusional a lot of times but at the end of the day they are randoms each and every single one of them to each other.
One Piece fanbase is big among manga communities and they tend to call Oda a better writer than XYZ's author to cause a bullshit for the purpose of causing it.
It's not that deep bro.
Wow, he is not willing to accept my worldview, we can't be friends anymore💀 You are so ridiculous.
So person needs to apply to your worldview or he is not worthy of ur grattitude. That's so Hitler of you💀
He doesn't go around fighting for his life to prove trans people/xyz is bad. He just says it and calls it a day. He's still offed by you in terms of friendship or whatever?
Opinions =/= actually offensive narratives if they are not used in a way to attract attention, I specifically mentioned that the conversation would be eye to eye.
Most people don't even speak on the matter unless they do it friend to friend at best and call it a day.
Damn. You must dislike most of the world since most of the world disagrees with you💀
Those things happened because of terrible things that caused but don't overblow it out of proportion, it was used for the cause of evil doings too. Especially Covid.
Knowledge and information have big power, sure.
Some dude online saying "I dislike trans people/I dislike XYZ" is not harmful to anyone💀
So, you are acting like a defender of every single Twitter popular topic to please yourself but try to hide it under a coat named "I want better fanbase".
Fanbases of XYZ are always toxic/fun. You can find toxic and fun people in every community. One Piece fans are indeed toxic and delusional a lot of times but at the end of the day they are randoms each and every single one of them to each other.
One Piece fanbase is big among manga communities and they tend to call Oda a better writer than XYZ's author to cause a bullshit for the purpose of causing it.
It's not that deep bro.
Wow, he is not willing to accept my worldview, we can't be friends anymore💀 You are so ridiculous.
So person needs to apply to your worldview or he is not worthy of ur grattitude. That's so Hitler of you💀
He doesn't go around fighting for his life to prove trans people/xyz is bad. He just says it and calls it a day. He's still offed by you in terms of friendship or whatever?
Opinions =/= actually offensive narratives if they are not used in a way to attract attention, I specifically mentioned that the conversation would be eye to eye.
Most people don't even speak on the matter unless they do it friend to friend at best and call it a day.
Damn. You must dislike most of the world since most of the world disagrees with you💀
You are not ready bra
Those things changed the world.
Actually it is.
First because it encourages people who think like him to speak to (exactly what happens yesterday) thus creating an echo chamber of transphobia. This has too impact:
- First on the trans people that could come on this forum. We don't know how can a trans person or a person who has gender disphoria can react to such an echo chamber (from good "I don't care" to real bad "This is it, I don't want to live in this world anymore")
- Second because this normalize transphobia first on this fanbase an then on internet and then on society
You are responsible when you say toxic sh*t mate.
No, I just want a better fanbase, end of story.
No. Some are fun but not all fanbase are toxic. Plus I don't see why this would be cool to normalize toxicity in a fanbase. Are you 10?
That's not what you said. you said that the guy was saying that "trans were weird" which is the starting point for transphobia. Keep up to your words bro. If the guy doesn't care about trans and let them be and don't say transphobic stuff, there is no need to question our friendship. So the question becomes irrelevant.
People can think whatever they want. The moment they start to share their opinion is the moment they can hurt people with their words.
I don't dislike you guys, I dislike your opinions. You guys.. I just find you sad. That's all.
But question:
Question : would you stay friend with a nazi ?
Those things changed the world.
Actually it is.
First because it encourages people who think like him to speak to (exactly what happens yesterday) thus creating an echo chamber of transphobia. This has too impact:
- First on the trans people that could come on this forum. We don't know how can a trans person or a person who has gender disphoria can react to such an echo chamber (from good "I don't care" to real bad "This is it, I don't want to live in this world anymore")
- Second because this normalize transphobia first on this fanbase an then on internet and then on society
You are responsible when you say toxic sh*t mate.
No, I just want a better fanbase, end of story.
No. Some are fun but not all fanbase are toxic. Plus I don't see why this would be cool to normalize toxicity in a fanbase. Are you 10?
That's not what you said. you said that the guy was saying that "trans were weird" which is the starting point for transphobia. Keep up to your words bro. If the guy doesn't care about trans and let them be and don't say transphobic stuff, there is no need to question our friendship. So the question becomes irrelevant.
People can think whatever they want. The moment they start to share their opinion is the moment they can hurt people with their words.
I don't dislike you guys, I dislike your opinions. You guys.. I just find you sad. That's all.
But question:
Question : would you stay friend with a nazi ?