Manga Discussion Edens Zero

How's the deal with Shiki's power level. Is he as powerful as he was after the last timeskip before jumping to Universe 0 or he has to go from beginning?
I think they still have the power of U3. Because Shiki has the Wormhole power from Ziggy/Nero. So I am sure during this arc they will get the same strenght what they had in U3.
And the next chapters name is pwer and body. I think in that chapter Shiki will get his power back.


How do you think Crow and especially Acnoella be handled in this universe? Acnoella better get a awesome fight with Homura.
I don't think that they exist in U0.
If Elsie lives a happy life with Justice on Lendard, then there was never a war and without that war, Elsie mother never turned to Acnoella. So I don't think that Acnoella is in U0.

Same thing with Crow. Cure said that he "created" Nero and Drakken and both of them are now together in U0. Coincidence? I don't think, so maybe Cure is the mastermind behind Drakken and Nero in U0 too. But this time he never created Crow, because he has Drakken and Nero?

Well that what i think.
 
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Shiki current body can't keep up with his previous strength he gained in 3 years throughout the series which means everyone got nerfed too



Nero wonders why Shiki has his power.

Nero retired from the throne and chose to retire on Belial Gore and became Drakken Joe's partner

Shura is the current emperor

Laguna is the new leader of Oasis!
 
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Shiki current body can't keep up with his previous strength he gained in 3 years throughout the series which means everyone got nerfed too



Nero wonders why Shiki has his power.

Nero retired from the throne and chose to retire on Belial Gore and became Drakken Joe's partner

Shura is the current emperor

Laguna is the new leader of Oasis!
Looks great. So Nero still has his wormhole EG, what means that the water attack is an ability of his race, thats nice. Shura is the emperor well thats ok too. Laguna is back thats great too. What I don't like is the fact that Neros dices are "weak" against Shiki. With his dices he easily killed Jaguar and he easily perforated Ziggy but this time his dices are usless because Shiki is the MC.
 
Looks great. So Nero still has his wormhole EG, what means that the water attack is an ability of his race, thats nice. Shura is the emperor well thats ok too. Laguna is back thats great too. What I don't like is the fact that Neros dices are "weak" against Shiki. With his dices he easily killed Jaguar and he easily perforated Ziggy but this time his dices are usless because Shiki is the MC.
I think depends on his attack
Maybe he used his strongest dice attack on Jaguar because he knew how strong he was and got serious from the beginning
He’s currently toying around with Shiki
 
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Shiki current body can't keep up with his previous strength he gained in 3 years throughout the series which means everyone got nerfed too



Nero wonders why Shiki has his power.

Nero retired from the throne and chose to retire on Belial Gore and became Drakken Joe's partner

Shura is the current emperor

Laguna is the new leader of Oasis!
Pretty boring. We only find out that Shura is the new leader of Aoi Cosmos which is something we deduced last chapter. Oh and also Laguna is the leader of Oasis.

I can get used to the characters being smaller again. I don't know where this is going...
 
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I checked it up and Nero 100% used a way stronger attack on Jaguar
The Dices are way faster and like lasers in this attack

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Pretty boring. We only find out that Shura is the new leader of Aoi Cosmos which is something we deduced last chapter. Oh and also Laguna is the leader of Oasis.

I can get used to the characters being smaller again. I don't know where this is going...
This is a 50/50 arc for me
It can either lead to greatness or to the downfall of this manga
I’m 100% the real shit will start when they find Mother. We will understand this whole U0 concept and what the true nature of gravity is. Xeno the founder and the Dark Ages have the answers.
Shiki's gravity can even pull memories from a different world. He pulled the memories of the 4DS and even the memories of U3 to U0. This is why everyone remembered what happened in the others Universes
We need to learn what his "gravity" really is
Many things are still unclear
 
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I checked it up and Nero 100% used a way stronger attack on Jaguar
The Dices are way faster and like lasers in this attack
Ah okay, makes sense. :)

I hope that Nero will this time use more water and wormhole power and not his dices. :josad:

Pretty boring. We only find out that Shura is the new leader of Aoi Cosmos which is something we deduced last chapter. Oh and also Laguna is the leader of Oasis.

I can get used to the characters being smaller again. I don't know where this is going...
Tbh for me the whole point of the 3 year TS doesn't makes sense and is useless, they could travel to lendard without the time skip and the outcome of the battle would be the same....Hiro made the time skip to show how much they changed during the time skip, but besides their designs there wasn't really a change. Even if they got stronger (what Hiro not really has shown), I believe they still could fight against the DS.

They only would be defeated by the hands of the OSG but even with the time skip they would be dead without the plot. I don't think that they could defeat Ziggy, Crow or Acnoella without the help of the plot (Ziggys case), Elsie and Justice (Acnoellas case) and Crow (Edens Zero weapon, Holy and Erasers help).

Therefore there isn't really a difference for me if they are 3 years older or not.

Plus I am sure that they will get their power from 3 years ago back during the arc or after that arc. Even if that power will not make a real difference :kayneshrug:
 
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Ah okay, makes sense. :)

I hope that Nero will this time use more water and wormhole power and not his dices. :josad:


Tbh for me the whole point of the 3 year TS doesn't makes sense and is useless, they could travel to lendard without the time skip and the outcome of the battle would be the same....Hiro made the time skip to show how much they changed during the time skip, but besides their designs there wasn't really a change. Even if they got stronger (what Hiro not really has shown), I believe they still could fight against the DS.

They only would be defeated by the hands of the OSG but even with the time skip they would be dead without the plot. I don't think that they could defeat Ziggy, Crow or Acnoella without the help of the plot (Ziggys case), Elsie and Justice (Acnoellas case) and Crow (Edens Zero weapon, Holy and Erasers help).

Therefore there isn't really a difference for me if they are 3 years older or not.

Plus I am sure that they will get their power from 3 years ago back during the arc or after that arc. Even if that power will not make a real difference :kayneshrug:
I don't think so. They would lose terribly if they didn't train during the time skip. Especially Shiki. Jump to another universe cheapens the character development by a lot. I don't find this interesting that Shiki just walks up to former/current EZ members and they get poof I know you! Ohhhh so that's what happened.

That's why I dislike time travel/time based powers. I'm not abandoning the ship cause I still expect some cool stuff to be written but Hiro really pissed me off with this one. I feel zero hype for the current Universe stuff. Especially since we will waste a lot of chapters on reforming the crew and seeing what difference is between this and our previous Universe.
 
I don't think so. They would lose terribly if they didn't train during the time skip. Especially Shiki.
Are you sure? Somehow I don't feel that they got so much stronger during the time skip. Maybe because Hiro not really showed it. In the battles against the OSG we also didn't saw anything, Crow, Cure, Acnoella and even Ziggy doesn't show anything. Thats the reason why I don't feel the time skip. Because these members of OSG were shown to be "weak". Shiki only won against Ziggy because Ziggy never fought seriously and because he "killed" Pino and because of her "death" Shiki got angry and got a new power up, but the same thing could happen without the time skip.

Before the time skip, Hiro showed us how powerful the OSG and OSI members are, but after the time skip we never saw that power again. Which is why I hate the time skip.

Jump to another universe cheapens the character development by a lot.
I think it's the opposite, because of that jump in another universe they can get more development, because Hiro can now use elements in that manga without using Rebeccas power to change the events, example: if Witch dies again, this time she will stay dead. And this time we can see the true power of the OSG members and the true power of Shiki and his friends and what they learnt during the time skip. Then so far they don't have the same strength of U3 but if they somehow get this strength back during this arc, then we as readers can better see how much they got stronger, something Hiro should have made during the Lendard arc. So I think U0 will have better developments than the time skip and U3.


I don't find this interesting that Shiki just walks up to former/current EZ members and they get poof I know you! Ohhhh so that's what happened.
That is something I don't like too. It's too easy.

That's why I dislike time travel/time based powers. I'm not abandoning the ship cause I still expect some cool stuff to be written but Hiro really pissed me off with this one. I feel zero hype for the current Universe stuff. Especially since we will waste a lot of chapters on reforming the crew and seeing what difference is between this and our previous Universe.
But thats the interesting point in time travel stories. Everything can be changed and in U0 Rebecca lost her power to travel through time, so this universe is more interesting to watch, because if someone dies during the battles, that character will stay dead.
And not only that, the whole change what happens because of the time travel will also be interesting to see. Why is Nero with Drakken? Why is Laguna the leader of Oasis, what happened with that big cat? Why is Shura the emperor and is he the same asshole like he was in U2? What happened with Elsie, Justice, Cure, Crow and the others?

Are Rachel and her church cult the true enemies? Will Rachel be the only one who will know everything? Is that part of her plan? etc.

I think U0 will be better in everything forms, developments, battles, emotional moments, story and dark moments.

Well at least better than U3 story.
 
I like that they’re still struggling but I’m still not sold on this arc
It feels like that all the previous sacrifices and hardships went partially to nothing
The only good thing is that Rebecca can’t rewind time so the tension is higher this time
No second chances and I believe that some dark shit is ahead of us
Mashima said that the truth about Mother is gonna be dark
 
I like that they’re still struggling but I’m still not sold on this arc
It feels like that all the previous sacrifices and hardships went partially to nothing
The only good thing is that Rebecca can’t rewind time so the tension is higher this time
No second chances and I believe that some dark shit is ahead of us
Mashima said that the truth about Mother is gonna be dark
Agreed. Got the the feeling we’re gonna get some dark twist soon.
 
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