Who is stronger?


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12 years old are kids ??

She even says that this very arc 😂😂😂

Nami uses Big Moms powers? Do you even read One Piece.

Dragon can’t teleport to Egghead? What are you talking about we don’t even know his powers

Look at this @AverageNamiEnjoyer 😂😂
We don't know his powers but one thing we do know is he can travel large distances instantly and has air coming off him.
 
Isnt it Oda who created the Roger, Rayleigh, Shanks, Mihawk, Rocks, Shiki and Oden as the supreme combatants of this world?
Is swordsmanship the only combat style that is separated from others through rarest achievement in the show - black blades?
Is Oda the one who created Zoro with superior swordsmanship to them all and gave him Demon God that takes it to a whole another lvl?
You're completely missing the point and shifting the argument into a topic that has no place here. This has nothing to do with Zoro.

You dont want to play the feats game, lol... It is the same as people who trashed Zoro when he had no feats flipping sides and abandoning feats game once Zoro got best feats in the verse... Just because Kizaru and Kaido dont have a feat of beating a top tier doesnt mean they are weaker than Akainu. Kaido doesnt have a feat of beating top tier and yet Oda himself chose him over Akainu...
What does this have to do with Kaido?
And i most definitely do want to play the feats game because Kizaru does not have a feat superior to that of Akainu. The rambling about how great the swordsman are won't win the argument for Kizaru neither will bringing in Zoro or Kaido so i don't get why you do it.

Akainu's superiority over Kizaru simply doesnt exist. Does he have better feats for now? Actually no. His feat of beating a top tier is offpaneled and we havent seen anything while Kizaru actually has on panel feats of going toe-to-toe with Dark King.
Akainu is superior to Kizaru in every. Single. Way.
 
If you read carefully, 2 out of 3 Admirals kinda got shitty portrayal against Whitebeard:

The first one is two shotted:


The second one:

Got his devil fruit power rendered useless against Whitebeard.

Only Kizaru who never got clowned by Whitebeard. If anything, one finger Kizaru really owned Whitebeard hard without getting any counterattack.


Whitebeard couldn't even do shit when he tried to prevent Kizaru from leaving.


Kizaru the MVP among Admirals in Marineford.
 
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Herrera95

12 years old are kids ??

She even says that this very arc 😂😂😂

Nami uses Big Moms powers? Do you even read One Piece.

Dragon can’t teleport to Egghead? What are you talking about we don’t even know his powers

Look at this @AverageNamiEnjoyer 😂😂
12 years old is kid. Idk if you call them teenager already in my country they are called pre teenagers.
But kid is a generic term, even Luffy was called kid by Whitebeard for example.

Nami uses Big Mom's powers. Zeus is a power of Big Mom that she stole. Do you read all 1000 chapters or you began at Egghead Island? Maybe you skipped WCI and Wano idk, I'm not judging probably it was a smart decision given how bad those arcs were.

Dragon can't teleport, be sure about that. Ivankov said he was late when he saved Sabo for example.
 
We don't know his powers but one thing we do know is he can travel large distances instantly and has air coming off him.
Exactly

I don’t know why people don’t want Dragon to come to egghead

Why would he not come here after hearing from Shaka that he is going to die and Kuma running off somewhere he doesn’t know about. Surely he would come and get answers ???
 
If you read carefully, 2 out of 3 Admirals kinda got shitty portrayal against Whitebeard:

The first one is two shotted:


The second one:

Got his devil fruit power rendered useless against Whitebeard.

Only Kizaru who never got clowned by Whitebeard. If anything, one finger Kizaru really owned Whitebeard hard without getting any counterattack.


Whitebeard couldn't even do shit when he tried to prevent Kizaru from leaving.


Kizaru the MVP among Admirals in Marineford.
Don't be another Yanker. You're better than that. There's no point in trying to put Admirals against each other. Any Admiral feat hypes the entire group. Admiral level is a power based position unlike the Yonko.
 
12 years old is kid. Idk if you call them teenager already in my country they are called pre teenagers.
But kid is a generic term, even Luffy was called kid by Whitebeard for example.

Nami uses Big Mom's powers. Zeus is a power of Big Mom that she stole. Do you read all 1000 chapters or you began at Egghead Island? Maybe you skipped WCI and Wano idk, I'm not judging probably it was a smart decision given how bad those arcs were.

Dragon can't teleport, be sure about that. Ivankov said he was late when he saved Sabo for example.
Nami calls them kids this arc, that’s why she doesn’t find the Seraphin Jinbei. We saw this, this very arc

Sorry Nami’s climatac and the way she uses Zeus is absolutely nothing like how Big Mom used it. How are Weather Balls anything like what Big Mom used lmaooo

We’ve seen Dragon travel far distances before though with wind coming off of him. Be serious, just say you don’t like dragon lol
 

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Kitetsu Wanker
Akainu = Red Dog
Dog in One Piece: Sanji, Chouchou.
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You're completely missing the point and shifting the argument into a topic that has no place here. This has nothing to do with Zoro.
It has to do with swordsmen being supreme combatants of OP world.

What does this have to do with Kaido?
And i most definitely do want to play the feats game because Kizaru does not have a feat superior to that of Akainu. The rambling about how great the swordsman are won't win the argument for Kizaru neither will bringing in Zoro or Kaido so i don't get why you do it.
Example of not beating top tier and being stronger than Akainu regardless.
But Akainu doesnt have superior feats, lol. Kizaru treated WB like a nuisance while we know how Akainu got treated by WB...

Akainu is superior to Kizaru in every. Single. Thing.
He is not. Stop making stuff up.
Can he end up as superior? Absolutely.
Is he proven superior so far? Absolutely not.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

Isnt it Oda who created the Roger, Rayleigh, Shanks, Mihawk, Rocks, Shiki and Oden as the supreme combatants of this world?
Is swordsmanship the only combat style that is separated from others through rarest achievement in the show - black blades?
Is Oda the one who created Zoro with superior swordsmanship to them all and gave him Demon God that takes it to a whole another lvl?

You dont want to play the feats game, lol... It is the same as people who trashed Zoro when he had no feats flipping sides and abandoning feats game once Zoro got best feats in the verse... Just because Kizaru and Kaido dont have a feat of beating a top tier doesnt mean they are weaker than Akainu. Kaido doesnt have a feat of beating top tier and yet Oda himself chose him over Akainu...

Akainu's superiority over Kizaru simply doesnt exist. Does he have better feats for now? Actually no. His feat of beating a top tier is offpaneled and we havent seen anything while Kizaru actually has on panel feats of going toe-to-toe with Dark King.
But I don't see anything impressive about Akainu beating Aokiji, we know that since the introduction of Whitebeard he is capable of beating any higher level with the exception of Kaidou and he doesn't even need to duel for 10 days against them to prove it, we know that Whitebeard wins Aokiji, We know that since the introduction of Kaidou, that Kaidou beats Aokiji, but in Marineford we knew that Akainu could beat Aokiji? No, so Akainu still needs to prove that he can beat opponent in which Oda already said that Whitebeard and Kaidou are winning, same for Mihawk, Mihawk according to his title beats Fujitora, but is Akainu able to beat Fujitora? He needs to prove it, because he simply doesn't have statements, titles that make him capable, as is the case with Kaidou, Wb and Mihawk.

Another example:

Can WB defeat Dragon? He can, and for that he doesn't even need to fight him, Oda through his title is validating the fact that WB > Dragon.

Can Kaidou defeat Dragon? Yes, Oda through Kaidou's title and statements is validating the fact that Kaidou
> Dragon.

But can Akainu beat Dragon? No, he needs to prove he can by fighting him. LMAO

Defeating another top tier is no better than titles and declarations, especially when it comes to globally scoped titles.
Defeated a higher level? Okay, what about the rest of the other higher levels?
 
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Herrera95

Nami calls them kids this arc, that’s why she doesn’t find the Seraphin Jinbei. We saw this, this very arc

Sorry Nami’s climatac and the way she uses Zeus is absolutely nothing like how Big Mom used it. How are Weather Balls anything like what Big Mom used lmaooo
Does Nami even use her weather balls after she got Zeus if not for feeding him?

Big Mom power is to take souls and put on objects just like Nami Zeus-Climatact. How is that not a Big Mom power?

Nami doesn't find Seraphim Jinbei because she called them kids? What?
 
If you read carefully, 2 out of 3 Admirals kinda got shitty portrayal against Whitebeard:

The first one is two shotted:


The second one:

Got his devil fruit power rendered useless against Whitebeard.

Only Kizaru who never got clowned by Whitebeard. If anything, one finger Kizaru really owned Whitebeard hard without getting any counterattack.


Whitebeard couldn't even do shit when he tried to prevent Kizaru from leaving.


Kizaru the MVP among Admirals in Marineford.
Sengoku slamming BB is way beyond Kizaru poking WB.
 
has to do with swordsmen being supreme combatants of OP world.
This isn't the discussion tho.

Example of not beating top tier and being stronger than Akainu regardless.
But Akainu doesnt have superior feats, lol. Kizaru treated WB like a nuisance while we know how Akainu got treated by WB...
Nonsensical. Kaido has an entire arc of feats, Kizaru doesn't and Akainu most certainly does have a superior feat the one you just mentioned.

He is not. Stop making stuff up.
Can he end up as superior? Absolutely.
Is he proven superior so far? Absolutely not.
But he is. He has the superior feat, portrayal and plot importance.
 
Let me show you how your argument crumbles.
Old Ray confirmed he is inferior to BB.

Law goes on to fight the person superior to Old Ray so Law has a superior feat to Kizaru and is thus stronger than him?


Try harder. So which feat does Kizaru have that equals beating Aokiji?
Learn the context.
2 DF BB pussied against 78 y.o. Rayleigh.
Kizaru made 76 y.o. Rayleigh into defensive mode.
76 y.o. Rayleigh > 78 y.o. Rayleigh.

Why didn't he fight him 1v1? Why did he have to fight Marco?
Why did Akainu have to fight fucking jobber Ivankov?


Why did Akainu have to fight Marco and Vista?

Sorry MarineHQ, Kizaru performed better against Oldbeard than Akainu, lets admit it.
 
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