[FNZ] Role Madness Valentine's Mafia Game: Be My Valentine

[Dr_Professor83]

I'll start first actually by posting Red Truths I think, because that's our foundational info.

 

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In.

I'm a classy lady and don't offer myself to anyone

I love this actress. You're from the same country?

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Bold after what happened in Blue's last game lmao
Gotta respect it honestly

I won't lie, was frightening to claim but I felt it was better to deal with town than have scum blast me to the moon while bothering to pretend to be town.

 

[Ultra]

Uh, not really, but I'm compiling info rn. Gonna start posting shit to the thread to make it easier to digest/oragnized.

For starters:

1. Krauss - Killed 2nd Twlight
2. Eva - Killed 1st Twilight
3. Rudolf - Killed 1st Twilight
4. Rosa - Killed 1st Twilight
5. Natsuhi - Killed 2nd Twilight
6. Hideyoshi - Killed 1st Twilight
7. Kyrie - Killed 1st Twilight
8. Jessica - Killed 8th Twilight
9. George
10. Battler
11. Maria
12. Najo - Killed 7th Twlight
13. Genji - Killed 1st Twilight
14. Shannon - Killed 4th Twilight
15. Kanon - Disappeared & Def Not Culprit
16. Gohda - Killed 5th/6th Twilight
17. Kumasawa - Killed 5th/6th Twilight

But in red it says from start to finished 11 characters were murdered.. so something is fucked up. I'm going to start compiling Purple/Red Truths and how they tie together and where Red contradicts Purple and where Purple could have issues.

I might have noticed something.

The first twilight pretty strongly implied one of the children could be lying about confirming the death of a parent. The locked room scenario is not possible unless the killer was inside and pretending to be dead ("nobody was hiding!"), or it was a servant. However, in the second twilight, the servants all had alibi's for each other and another locked room scenario occured (remember no mutual murders). So in short I think that rules out a servant commiting the first set of murders.

My confusion rests with the key stuff. The second locked room had to have been made with a culprit hiding a master key, but the only eligible key here should be the one that was destroyed earlier.

 

[hime]

Scum have the benefit of coordinating anyway so I don't agree. Scum can also have their individual members guess differently and probably come out with at least one person who benefits.

well yea, thats y i included:

its probs better not to just in case they arent able to solve it together anyway

i haven't really looked into the mystery yet, but i assume it's supposed to be pretty difficult so there's still a chance that they aren't able to figure it out
we have no info abt the rewards yet, so i suggest not working together until the next mystery at least

 

[Ultra]

well yea, thats y i included:


i haven't really looked into the mystery yet, but i assume it's supposed to be pretty difficult so there's still a chance that they aren't able to figure it out
we have no info abt the rewards yet, so i suggest not working together until the next mystery at least

But why would you assume it's more likely town have the solving advantage over scum given my point lol

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Red Truths
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Every servant has a master key. At the start, there were 5 master keys. They belong to Genji, Shannon, Kanon, Gohda and Kumasawa.

All doors can only be locked or unlocked with a master key.

it is possible to lock or unlock the doors from inside the room even without a master key.

There are five master keys total. One is held by each of the five servants. The servants keep master keys on their person at all times, so it is impossible for them to be stolen, handed over, or used by any human other than themselves.

All of the windows had steel bars on them, so it's impossible to enter or leave by them.

they can seal the whole mansion by sealing the two doors, the front one and the back one.

The culprit of the first twilight (first set of murders) really did kill at least 5 people.

The group sealed the room at the same time they left.

Also, all of the seals on Natsuhi's room, the dining hall, and the mansion itself will not be broken.

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Okay, I picked these because they seem important in that they automatically validate some of the Purple I skimmed through. I didn't bother with Red shit that was obvious. Just skimming, I can tell, the case is going to depend on some of this shit left unsaid between this Red text imo. Especially since we got this in Red "Despite this, if you notice something is missing from a set of statements, it is certainly worth asking yourself why that may be. "

So I recommend combing through stuff and really trying to look between the lines. Like for example that "The first twilight culprit really did kill at least 5 people" stands out. Wonder if one of those in that room was a culprit who they marked as dead that wasn't? Bc the 1st twilght has 6 listed as killed, not 5. But we know one person can't use Purple to lie for another, so if someone said they checked them then they can't be pretending to be dead/the culprit unless the Purple really believes it for example.

 

[Ultra]

"The culprit of the first twilight (first set of murders) really did kill at least 5 people. The group sealed the room at the same time they left."

This detail however excludes the culprit of T1 leaving the room and continuing to kill people. Could have just stayed in there and chilled.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I might have noticed something.

The first twilight pretty strongly implied one of the children could be lying about confirming the death of a parent. The locked room scenario is not possible unless the killer was inside and pretending to be dead ("nobody was hiding!"), or it was a servant. However, in the second twilight, the servants all had alibi's for each other and another locked room scenario occured (remember no mutual murders). So in short I think that rules out a servant commiting the first set of murders.

My confusion rests with the key stuff. The second locked room had to have been made with a culprit hiding a master key, but the only eligible key here should be the one that was destroyed earlier.

Alright let me check this stuff too, and see if I can find a key explanation.

 

[Ultra]

Red Truths
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Every servant has a master key. At the start, there were 5 master keys. They belong to Genji, Shannon, Kanon, Gohda and Kumasawa.

All doors can only be locked or unlocked with a master key.

it is possible to lock or unlock the doors from inside the room even without a master key.

There are five master keys total. One is held by each of the five servants. The servants keep master keys on their person at all times, so it is impossible for them to be stolen, handed over, or used by any human other than themselves.

All of the windows had steel bars on them, so it's impossible to enter or leave by them.

they can seal the whole mansion by sealing the two doors, the front one and the back one.

The culprit of the first twilight (first set of murders) really did kill at least 5 people.

The group sealed the room at the same time they left.

Also, all of the seals on Natsuhi's room, the dining hall, and the mansion itself will not be broken.

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Okay, I picked these because they seem important in that they automatically validate some of the Purple I skimmed through. I didn't bother with Red shit that was obvious. Just skimming, I can tell, the case is going to depend on some of this shit left unsaid between this Red text imo. Especially since we got this in Red "Despite this, if you notice something is missing from a set of statements, it is certainly worth asking yourself why that may be. "

So I recommend combing through stuff and really trying to look between the lines. Like for example that "The first twilight culprit really did kill at least 5 people" stands out. Wonder if one of those in that room was a culprit who they marked as dead that wasn't? Bc the 1st twilght has 6 listed as killed, not 5. But we know one person can't use Purple to lie for another, so if someone said they checked them then they can't be pretending to be dead/the culprit unless the Purple really believes it for example.

Correction: Only a culprit can use purple to lie. So if a child is say in on it with mommy or daddy pretending to be dead, that's within scope, as long as the child kills at least one person later

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Correction: Only a culprit can use purple to lie. So if a child is say in on it with mommy or daddy pretending to be dead, that's within scope, as long as the child kills at least one person later

It says

No one can use the purple to aid a culprit.

So I assume that includes other culprits?

 

[Dr_Professor83]

As in culprits won't lie to aid a fellow culprit.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Because the Red Truth in insolation will need to be a fact I'd think. So no one probably really means no one.

 

[Pot Goblin]

I won't lie, was frightening to claim but I felt it was better to deal with town than have scum blast me to the moon while bothering to pretend to be town.

Fair enough, though I expect a long, long road ahead of you

On top of solving whatever that mystery stuff is woof

 

[Ultra]

As in culprits won't lie to aid a fellow culprit.

*Scratches head*. Well if this is the case how do you explain everyone saying "yup so and so is definitely dead" when clearly that isn't the case.

 

[Ratchet]

Of course, there can be more than one culprit. No one can use the purple to aid a culprit. I will say it in Red again - anyone using the purple is speaking the truth, except for anyone that is a culprit, who could use it to lie. The culprit can lie in retrospect - they do not have to have killed at the point in the story in which they lie. They need only kill at some point.

To clarify, this is to be taken as a single point. A culprit can use purple to lie about anything they please.

 

[Ratchet]

Actually, I'll split them up to make it easier to read.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

1st Twlight Deaths & Checks
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Eva & Hidey - Checked by George
Rudoplh - Checked by Battler
Kyrie - ?
Rosa - Checked by Maria
Genji - Checked by Nanjo & Kanon - Should def be dead I think bc that's two and Kanon is def not culprit.

Kyrie, I'm unsure if was checked, she's Rudolph's wife, but not actually Battler's parent. Not sure if she counts for him checking if so.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

*Scratches head*. Well if this is the case how do you explain everyone saying "yup so and so is definitely dead" when clearly that isn't the case.

Nah, you were right.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Also, I'm probably overthinking grey area with that Kyrie thing, but it is something to at least bring up. Also, he doesn't say "Mom & Dad, just says "geh" lol.