Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1077 Spoilers Discussion

[HA001]

King low diffs kata

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Vergo never tried to block Sanji tho

Well neither did Doffy.
he just happened to have a feather coat

 

[Nikuzi]

Nah when the author is strictly emphasizing that one man is so injured that he can barely move, we should be assuming when he is 100% he won't do better.

That is questioning of intelligence.
You agreed when Zoro is fresh after learning Breath of all things he'd do even better.

So wouldn't Zoro be able to generate a lot more force when he doesn't have 30 broken bones with Ashura?
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South Indian Movies are almost as bad as One Piece

RRR << Wano Arc
KGF << WCI Arc

All 4 things are trash here btw

If we go by the logic that him having broken bones would make him so weak, then he shouldn't have been able to use asura at all. It's not about intelligence, it's about suspension of disbelief. If we use the logic that sheer willpower allowed him to contend Kaido even though he had broken bones, then why can't that be extended to say that his willpower was so great that it allowed him to fight at his max temporarily?

 

[Jailer]

Also his flame was off was zoro landed the attack. He even says it

The next panel doesn't suddenly change that even if you don't believe king's hair is long

Yeah the upper panel is clearly just his hair, his flame turned on in the middle panel.

 

[executefobs]

Can some of the editors just start beating oda. Seriously chapters would improve if this guy was at risk of a beating for every shit chapter he produces.

 

[Boiroy]

king's lunarian durability+zoan>=Kaido's durability?🤨

 

[ShishioIsBack]

If we go by the logic that him having broken bones would make him so weak, then he shouldn't have been able to use asura at all. It's not about intelligence, it's about suspension of disbelief. If we use the logic that sheer willpower allowed him to contend Kaido even though he had broken bones, then why can't that be extended to say that his willpower was so great that it allowed him to fight at his max temporarily?

Well that was the insanity of the scene
Even with 30 bones, where Law (who is Zoro's bitch) btw was shitting his pants at the thought of Zoro even being able to move.

In that condition Zoro had enough will power in him to pull out Ashura and even in that condition although not able to knock Kaido out, was able to at least scar him.

If Zoro was fresh there, I'd say Kaido would at least be knocked out.

 

[Albino 👑]

Vegapunk should give nami, usopp, chopper, and franky power ups

1. Have usopp's kabuto eat a zoan + give him a hammer with the tonton fruit somehow
2. Give franky access to ancient tech and greenblood
3. Boost chopper rumble ball even more
4. Idk about nami but her with a gautlet is badass

Anything that gives her more of these vibes would be dope

 

[Psychiatrist]

Godfy
Only character in the entire series that has defeated a top tier and WSC on actual panel.

 

[Razgon]

Well that was the insanity of the scene
Even with 30 bones, where Law (who is Zoro's bitch) btw was shitting his pants at the thought of Zoro even being able to move.

In that condition Zoro had enough will power in him to pull out Ashura and even in that condition although not able to knock Kaido out, was able to at least scar him.

If Zoro was fresh there, I'd say Kaido would at least be knocked out.

If Kaido was using Thunder Bagua, I'd say Kaido will blitz Zoro. Thunder Bagua has much better speed feat than Ashura.

Thunder Bagua blitzes current Zoro and will knock him out if it lands on his head.

Zoro needs to improve his observation haki to dodge it.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Correct ,can‘t take that away from Luffy he is stated to be an god of the OP world .

People build whole character feats around Vivrecards ,because in the actual story their favorites don‘t have feats ,and get salty about other characters given "status" in the story

Not sure what you are actually tryna say but as long as its along the lines of "Luffy is a garbage character" then I second this

 

[Albino 👑]

@Albino 👑 you're 40? 😨

Last time I checked no
I guess i could be wrong tho

 

[ShishioIsBack]

If Kaido was using Thunder Bagua, I'd say Kaido will blitz Zoro. Thunder Bagua has much better speed feat than Ashura.

Thunder Bagua blitzes current Zoro and will knock him out if it lands on his head.

Zoro needs to improve his observation haki to dodge it.

Actually fundamentally and categorically false.
Even after Ashura, where Zoro's back was turned initially, Zoro turned around and took Thunder Bagua to face.

And Kaido himself was perception blitzed by Ashura, if Kaido couldn't see Ashura, how can thunder bagua be faster? You think Kaido can't see his own movements?

 

[grey matter]

Zoro clearly said "he's fast therefore I can cut him now", while saying earlier "his flames are on, no point attacking him now"

Perhaps because he opened a wound on King has blocking it as his chest part was bleeding a lot, Zoto couldn't cut his leg which he blocked one of Zoro's strikes in that exchange, one can assume he was guarding his wounded area.

Otherwise if he could clearly cut a flame on King Oda would need to clearly show it, but every instance he was cut his flame behind his back was off. After King got wounded in his chest he was with flame mode while guarding with his other bodyparts like his legs and his sword.

Dude, he didn't know that he can damage King's defence mode until King himself started blocking.
How could he? King was no selling everything prior to that. And the only info he had then was regarding King's defence/speed mode mechanics.
While King likely knows, cause of experience with an advanced conqueror's user in Kaido.

Let's be intellectually honest here.
What is the purpose of that panel where King was blocking, on backfoot, and Zoro taunting him? It is Oda narratively spelling it out that King can no longer no-sell Zoro's attacks in defence mode.

Clearly, KoH Zoro can hurt defence mode King. Or else, that page had zero purpose.

And like I said, we don't know if King was in defence mode in that final attack. Too much fire cluttering.
Precedence however suggests that he might have been in defence mode, since all of King's prior fire attacks have been in his in defence mode.

 

[Psychiatrist]

Kantara > KGF/RRR

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Is Thunder Bagua even faster than Hakai?
What's the proof?
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Kantara > KGF/RRR

Kantara was so boring tho.

All South Movies such balls

 

[Thaidakar]

Zoro needs to improve his observation haki to dodge it.

- On the rooftop he was the quickest to react blocking hakai (only luffy sensed it too)
- He foresaw Kaido's invisible slashes and repelled them easily (remember law teleported the fuck away, Killer just ran, only luffy foresaw and actively dodged them too. Kiddo got wrecked lol)
- He's one of two characters ever to have displayed sleep diff feat.

 

[Albino 👑]

And like I said, we don't know if King was in defence mode in that final attack. Too much fire cluttering.

There was no flame on his back

 

[Psychiatrist]

Kantara was so boring tho.

All South Movies such balls

You like bollywood more than south movies?

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

Not sure what you are actually tryna say but as long as its along the lines of "Luffy is a garbage character" then I second this

noticed i wrote it a bit wonky