Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1077 Spoilers Discussion

[sanjikun]

First of all, this is terrible logic. You're using 'what-if' scaling rn. Doflamingo was not on Wano, so why are we talking about a version of the manga that does not exist? If Doflamingo was on Wano, Law may still have to fight Big Mom as Kid cannot handle her by himself. Your argument for Doflamingo > King is legit based on your fanfic lmfao.

Secondly, Kaido was Zoro's opponent on Wano too. He failed and defeated King. Law fought Doflamingo; he failed and defeated Trebol. In the same arc that Zoro defeated Pica. So in the same arc, Zoro has already defeated an opponent stronger than the person Law defeated.

Thirdly, using your set-rules, Zoro usually fights and defeats the strongest subordinate. If Doflamingo was on Wano, and he was stronger than King, then Zoro would have to fight him as he'd be the strongest subordinate. Law would fight the second strongest antagonist according to your formula, and that would be Big Mom. So even your fanfic doesn't make sense.

It's not terrible logic. Oda gave him the nickname "Joker" because he was Kaido's nakama. He stated this.

Thirdly, using your set-rules, Zoro usually fights and defeats the strongest subordinate. If Doflamingo was on Wano, and he was stronger than King, then Zoro would have to fight him as he'd be the strongest subordinate. Law would fight the second strongest antagonist according to your formula, and that would be Big Mom. So even your fanfic doesn't make sense.

Zoro fights the strongest subordinate. Joker is not a subordinate. He is a captain ally, like Law.

Law is to Luffy what Joker was to Kaido.

Zoro is to Luffy was King is to Kaido

Sanji is to Luffy was Queen is to Kaido.

And this is backed up by the fact that Warlord bounties >>>> YC bounties. Weakest Warlord are going over RHMs.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

so sanji going to get pushed to xtreme diffs to a kid jinbei

Just like kid kuma pushing luffy and lucci to extreme siff

 

[Monster Luffy]

Why does DNA have to be altered? they could just have the property of getting tougher when their flames are on.

Then that is external.

 

[HeroesNZ]

How does King beat pre Ryuo Luffy?
He has no speed to bypass fs nor blitz boundman in battle

He will need his speed form to tag luffy. That's why he loses coz without flames, he's not tanking g4 attacks!

Why would King leave defense mode against G4? Luffy stands no chance with his temporary power-up that still can't even scratch flame-on King. He can't even overpower King, as flame-on King was overpowering a version of Zoro much stronger than post-WCI Luffy.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

WsW and Sasaki knew they could beat King for a reason
He's not great as fighter, just force him to use speed form or so, he loses in 3-5 moves easily

Are you salty Katakuri can never amount to the swag King carries?

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

King is shit. King is trash. If Zoro rematched him he’d mid diff, if not low diff.

And yet the Yonko who beat Kaido and the guy who beat King can’t beat Seraphim without exploiting loopholes in their powers, lol

It’s amazing to me how people cling to their dumbass opinions even as Oda shits on them in real time. Lol

 

[JoNdule]

S Hawk would solo Kid's entire crew.

In your head

While zoro and kaku can't handle a kid easily
Canon fact so far

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Are you salty Katakuri can never amount to the swag King carries?

Nah he’s mad cause Katakuri canonically got boxed out by a veteran

 

[Monster Luffy]

True. But what's the inconsistency in this chapter?

Memory loss. Like seriously?

 

[ConquistadoR]

In your head

While zoro and kaku can't handle a kid easily
Canon fact so far

Yonko Luffy (who beats 3 Kidds btw) and Lucci can't handle a kid easily.
Canon fact.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

And yet the Yonko who beat Kaido and the guy who beat King can’t beat Seraphim without exploiting loopholes in their powers, lol

It’s amazing to me how people cling to their dumbass opinions even as Oda shits on them in real time. Lol

If they are only a threat because nobody knows how their hax works, they’re not strong.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

It still doesn't change the fact Zoro's attack completely cut through King's wing that more durable than Kaido's body. That attack would cut through Kaido's body.

King’s flames were off… You can clearly see in the panel that his flames are off

only flame on king is higher durability than Kaido

 

[sanjikun]

And yet the Yonko who beat Kaido and the guy who beat King can’t beat Seraphim without exploiting loopholes in their powers, lol

It’s amazing to me how people cling to their dumbass opinions even as Oda shits on them in real time. Lol

The Seraphims are another Lucci, Apoo, Cracker, Caesar, etc...

Luffy loses 100 IQ points at the start of every arc. And this arc? Zoro did too by conveniently "forgetting" about Lunarians

 

[Aknolagon]

And this is why King is the "invincible guy" in OP.

Luffy is upset and says "are you kaido ?"

No buddy they are "above "

 

[Lor D. Coast]

We went from "you must be crazy for comparing King and Kaido" to "comparing Kaido to 13-year-old King's clones is Kaido hype" real quick.

After everything that was said and written Luffy is the one comparing kid King clones to Kaido!

 

[Monster Luffy]

swag King carries?

this swag.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

The Seraphim toughness is from kid King, they can't eat CoC coating attacks to the dome like King did. Gotta save the big guns for the real fight.

What real fight? The only person coming here is Kizaru… What will Zoro be doing as Luffy fights Kizaru?

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

If they are only a threat because nobody knows how their hax works, they’re not strong.

Well now the Yonko knows how their hax works and still thinks he can’t beat them without exploiting loopholes. Lol

 

[DJOMOLO]

Memory loss. Like seriously?

Oh, Zoro? I thought this played more on the fact that zoro didn't care much about king, lol

 

[sanjikun]

And this is why King is the "invincible guy" in OP.

Luffy made the same proclamation about Katakuri

The difference is Katakuri didn't get low diffed after his secret was out.