[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 09: Throne of Lies

[Dark Admiral]

I recall this from D2;

This is great. Let's Lynch TAC and see who among @Natalija and Flower is Scum.

Both of them could be Scum, but it would be an extremely big brained move. At any rate, unless there's a role that can frame roles or there's a role that can redirect (without informing the redirected player that they were redirected) it is very unlikely that this is Town vs Town.



I would recommend Lynching TAC instead:

• If TAC is Scum it strongly suggests Flower is Town and Natalija is Scum.
• If TAC is Town, it strongly suggests Flower is Scum and Natalija is Town.

Whereas if we Lynch Flower:

• If she's Town, it strongly suggests both TAC and Natalija are Scum.
  • It gives the two Scum and extra night to act.
• If she's Scum, it strongly suggests Natalija is Town, but doesn't say much about TAC.

Looking at the above:

• A TAC Lynch would give us more information on two players.
• It prevents the scenario where we leave Two Scum free to act at Night.
• I prefer prioritising initial claims.

Suspicions aside, I think a TAC Lynch is strictly better. However, looking at the earlier posts, I'm going to catch up to Day 1 and reevaluate.

I want to Lynch TAC because it appears to me that his Lynch would be more informative than a Flower Lynch. Lynching for information is not only solid Mafia strategy in general, it is consistent with how I play Mafia in particular.

they called him, Mad man/

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Why is our queen so silent?

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Why is TAC trying so desperately not to get lynched? After he admitted he was scum? Trying to extend it to the night and have the Prince execute him. seems fishy.

Everything I do is fishy. But I'd rather be able to have a will read out via execution and get the satisfaction of lasting longer.

 

[Dragomir]

I thought they first have to convert specific roles based on the sign up "Both have the power to convert during the night instead of a factional kill. They gain a killing power by converting specific Blue Dragon roles. ":zorothink:

I'll clear this up. I was only half right on that part. While yes, they can gain a killing role by converting specific roles like the Knight, it's also true that they start out the game with the power to kill, the Cult with the eradicate and rupture ability, and the Unseen with the Assassin role. My apologies there.

 

[Seraphoenix]

What are you referring to?

TAC kept asking if I have roleblock immunity

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I recall this from D2;


they called him, Mad man/

Cinera was 1000000000% wrong. Because Flowa is Fool who was trying desperately to get lynched. It was a bad call.

 

[krogothwolf]

Why is our queen so silent?

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Everything I do is fishy. But I'd rather be able to have a will read out via execution and get the satisfaction of lasting longer.

Or you know something about the prince that we don't know.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

hawks came in and kept going on about no one coming for nuetral
major sus as well

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Or you know something about the prince that we don't know.

It's possible. Would you want my info though? Even if you don't believe it, it's there for you to analyse.

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hawks came in and kept going on about no one coming for nuetral
major sus as well

He deserves the benefit of the doubt. He was subbed in and likely didn't read each post as attentively as we do as we keep up with the threads.

 

[krogothwolf]

I'll clear this up. I was only half right on that part. While yes, they can gain a killing role by converting specific roles like the Knight, it's also true that they start out the game with the power to kill, the Cult with the eradicate and rupture ability, and the Unseen with the Assassin role. My apologies there.

Damnit Drago! Shoulda made an annoucnement on this one due to this being a big change from your sign up thread

 

[Dark Admiral]

Cinera was 1000000000% wrong. Because Flowa is Fool who was trying desperately to get lynched. It was a bad call.

his reads on you were right though. He wanted to lynch you to get more info. He was against the idea of voting Flower

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

his reads on you were right though. He wanted to lynch you to get more info. He was against the idea of voting Flower

He wanted me gone for the wrong reasons and bad reads.

 

[Dark Admiral]

hawks came in and kept going on about no one coming for nuetral
major sus as well

he will probably be mod blocked for lack of activity.

 

[Seraphoenix]

Gonna be asleep for the trial. Can I just vote Guilty now @Dragomir ? Nothing he says will convince me not to vote guilty.

 

[krogothwolf]

It's possible. Would you want my info though? Even if you don't believe it, it's there for you to analyse.

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He deserves the benefit of the doubt. He was subbed in and likely didn't read each post as attentively as we do as we keep up with the threads.

I am curious if you have a different reason then I want to live longer but I don't know if the info will help or hurt town.

 

[Dark Admiral]

Gonna be asleep for the trial. Can I just vote Guilty now @Dragomir ? Nothing he says will convince me not to vote guilty.

I second this.

 

[krogothwolf]

vote lynch TAC

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I’m sure someone was converted for Cult. There is no way the evil faction sat all night and did nothing. Increasing numbers should be their game play now.
@Reborn your point of defending Cinera by singling out him asking the host and getting no answer says nothing. That could easily be a lie or a tactic. And Dragomir would not answer either way.
I relate to @TheAncientCenturion logic of suspecting Cinera way more than why you seem to suspect him. And this is the third person attacking TAC for no apparent reason, it’s shady. It sounds a lot like you and Cinera are teamed up.

I only suspect you because the way you’re suspecting him. And you went from telling me to chill to sounding really friendly from the moment I called you possibly evil. Those are the reasons.

IF Flower is the Fool; we should do nothing to her. Let her troll. Her goal then is to be executed, and we can’t grant that if we want to win. She cannot kill any of us during the night, as far as I understood. All she can do is convince someone she was framed tonight with her powers: in such a case, don’t trust her.
So if she can’t kill us, she is not dangerous.

TAC; I don’t know if he is telling the truth, but I don’t think he’s making up jail out of the blue. I would let him be because Prince might have jailed him on a whim. If TAC is Cult, there was still another member who might have converted someone during the night.

I would recommend both investigators and offensive classes to try out someone else.

divert investigators from tac I see

Hahaha sorry!! Either way, welcome! Glad to have a neighbor here, I'm Serbian.

Why are you voting for him? Also, I think you have to post his full name for it to be admitted (wild guess)

Hmmmm, Wolf. He isn't struggling like the rest of us. He's laid back and stating game rules. For all we know, all of us trying to figure things out are all Blue Dragon. Scum just sits back and lies. That is why he's iffy to me.

when yo tan wa votes tac

No, this is a mistake. If she is any kind of Fool or silly Neutral, she can't hurt us. But she can save herself and fuck us over in the process. If she is controlled in some way, she is innocent.

We should leave her be in both cases.

However it is weird that TAC is the obsession, is this some kind of forum rivalry I'm missing? He is either an important Blue Dragon or an evil mastermind......

I wonder this myself. Does @TheAncientCenturion have some sort of an invisible mark on himself on this forum?
Is he super sneaky?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

divert investigators from tac I see

when yo tan wa votes tac

Nah man, leave poor Nat alone. She's clean.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Nah man, leave poor Nat alone. She's clean.

nat can speak for herself

 

[krogothwolf]

Nah man, leave poor Nat alone. She's clean.

We can't really trust you because we dont even know what you are now lol.