[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 09: Throne of Lies

[Reborn]

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Thought I got TAC marked, but didn't because he was jailed.

This is from Wiki mentioned under fool role and abilities about what tactics fool should adopt

One viable strategy is convincing people you are The Scorned. You can do this by trollboxing a player into making a silly accusation against someone else, and then backing up that accusation yourself while being the first to vote up the fake target. The goal is to have Blue Dragon execute you instead under suspicion of being The Scorned.

 

[Flower]

That makes more sense. So you're proposing we tell you who we hope to lynch the next day because you marked them that night? What if info changes who we lynch?

Well, I can't win without you guys anyway, so that's a risk I'm willing to take.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

flower why did you call tac unseen then and say you investigated him?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Pros to Flower working with us;

-She is at least a known quantity and I don't believe neutrals can be converted.
-We can control what she does and have her target strictly anti-town players / who we're sus of
-It's added pressure on any sus player, better than a vote if they're marked and have to prove themselves even harder to town

Cons to Flower working with us;

-She's neutral, so it's likely she could turn on us whenever getting a better offer / if the Prince dies.
-She could still be fool and this could just be a trap for us.
-There's no guarantee she remains loyal if we decide not to lynch whoever she marks for multiple days
—To add onto this, we def. will not be lynching everyone we mark if evidence makes someone else more suspicious.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

The moment I said I am going to sleep suddenly there is more activity in this thread

This is from Wiki mentioned under fool role and abilities about what tactics fool should adopt

One viable strategy is convincing people you are The Scorned. You can do this by trollboxing a player into making a silly accusation against someone else, and then backing up that accusation yourself while being the first to vote up the fake target. The goal is to have Blue Dragon execute you instead under suspicion of being The Scorned.

lol

 

[krogothwolf]

flower why did you call tac unseen then and say you investigated him?

Mark frames a target. So they come up as the bad faction.

The problem is if TAC was jailed did @Flower get any notice saying the target was jailed or something?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Well either way, we're not lynching Flowa. It just comes down to whether or not we want to have her executed whenever the Prince is capable of it.

 

[Natalija]

The moment I said I am going to sleep suddenly there is more activity in this thread

This is from Wiki mentioned under fool role and abilities about what tactics fool should adopt

One viable strategy is convincing people you are The Scorned. You can do this by trollboxing a player into making a silly accusation against someone else, and then backing up that accusation yourself while being the first to vote up the fake target. The goal is to have Blue Dragon execute you instead under suspicion of being The Scorned.

Yes, this is what I suspect as well.

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Well either way, we're not lynching Flowa. It just comes down to whether or not we want to have her executed whenever the Prince is capable of it.

I still think we should flat out ignore her.

 

[Adam 🍎]

NW has revealed he's Paladin earlier in the game phase. So we can take him out of the running here.

So we are dealing with the Cult this game

 

[krogothwolf]

Yes, this is what I suspect as well.

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I still think we should flat out ignore her.

Flowers full of shit then :D

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Player will appear as chosen class, if executed tomorrow. They will also be marked for 1 day.

One of her abilities, make sense why she was so sure for us to Vote Tac n find out.

Bt this timing, when things were really gling as per her plan. Tac was being Lynched, why come out? Don't make sense.

 

[krogothwolf]

One of her abilities, make sense why she was so sure for us to Vote Tac n find out.

Bt this timing, when things were really gling as per her plan. Tac was being Lynched, why come out? Don't make sense.

She would have used framed not class on him since she said unseen. Second it would be impossible for anything to work on a jailed tagrt. She either did nothing and is lying and is the fool and wants to get lynched
or she ignored the notice about not being able to hit her target or something because she's busy.

Honestly going with flower is full of shit on this one.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

One of her abilities, make sense why she was so sure for us to Vote Tac n find out.

Bt this timing, when things were really gling as per her plan. Tac was being Lynched, why come out? Don't make sense.

Only I'm not going to be lynched. Because the town is smarter than that.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

The moment I said I am going to sleep suddenly there is more activity in this thread

This is from Wiki mentioned under fool role and abilities about what tactics fool should adopt

One viable strategy is convincing people you are The Scorned. You can do this by trollboxing a player into making a silly accusation against someone else, and then backing up that accusation yourself while being the first to vote up the fake target. The goal is to have Blue Dragon execute you instead under suspicion of being The Scorned.

Bt This is odd Reborn.

If she was fool, she would have read her wili info and certainly wouldn't use the tactic mentioned so clearly.

What do you think are the chances she is doing it intentionally? Also factor in the timing she came out with this, how does this benefit a fool, Cult or scorned.

 

[Natalija]

One of her abilities, make sense why she was so sure for us to Vote Tac n find out.

Bt this timing, when things were really gling as per her plan. Tac was being Lynched, why come out? Don't make sense.

Wild guess is someone made her. It's not far out, the Noble has the day power to force target player A to vote for target player B. Then, prevent target B from voting.

And this is ASSUMING someone from Blue Dragon did it.
I still think she is a manipulated Fool/Neutral.

 

[krogothwolf]

Wild guess is someone made her. It's not far out, the Noble has the day power to force target player A to vote for target player B. Then, prevent target B from voting.

And this is ASSUMING someone from Blue Dragon did it.
I still think she is a manipulated Fool/Neutral.

She wants to get lynched.
Posts to get TAC lynch
comes back and bitches about assignments
Posts to claim she framed TAC but didn't know he was jailed. I'm curious to know if people get notified if their target is jailed or not but usually they get a notification saying they can't find the target or some shit.

So my view is she's hoping to get her ass lynched still.

 

[Reborn]

Bt This is odd Reborn.

If she was fool, she would have read her wili info and certainly wouldn't use the tactic mentioned so clearly.

What do you think are the chances she is doing it intentionally? Also factor in the timing she came out with this, how does this benefit a fool, Cult or scorned.

Ignore Flower Scorned claim.. regardless of what role she has Scorned/ fool She isn't turstworthy to believe anything.

We should execute her to be on safe side.

Also, there is an issue now. Her sussing tac and now defending tac. We don't know whether tac is marked target or not if she really Scorned.

We really need to invest tac and cinera at any cost....



Also @TheAncientCenturion answer this and do it quickly because it's around 11pm here and I need to sleep.

Flower claimed that she used ability on you.. you were jailed so your first reaction should be to ask how come you used abiltiy on me when I was jailed?

Also, TAC ain't scum. I'm the Scorned and used my ability to force him to claim his true role and alignment. So he's legit Blue Dragon. Since I can pick my targets just tell me who you wanna lynch so that I can mark them.

But your initial responses were these

@Natalija Does this line up with what you looked into?

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LMAO. Are you, neutral, seriously suggesting an alliance with town? How could we trust that you don't betray us for Cult?

There was no mention by her until few post later about her using ability during day and not night.

It was krog who immediately questioned flower about how her abiltiy worked on tac

How can you mark him if he's jailed? Isn't marking a night ability?

Why you didn't pick this? Why you didn't ask flower that how her ability worked on you despite you being in jailed?

You better give convincing answer tac.

 

[Natalija]

We should execute her to be on safe side.

No, this is a mistake. If she is any kind of Fool or silly Neutral, she can't hurt us. But she can save herself and fuck us over in the process. If she is controlled in some way, she is innocent.

We should leave her be in both cases.

However it is weird that TAC is the obsession, is this some kind of forum rivalry I'm missing? He is either an important Blue Dragon or an evil mastermind......

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Flower claimed that she used ability on you.. you were jailed so your first reaction should be to ask how come you used abiltiy on me when I was jailed?

Because I'm more focused on her claim.

We've already confirmed that Prince is in all games, didn't we? Why would I lie about being jailed Reborn, it would just make me set up for being jailed later in the game. I'd either have to know we don't have Prince to make that ballsy move or have been jailed. Because it would get me executed / the jailer would put me on lock down.

 

[Reborn]

No, this is a mistake. If she is any kind of Fool or silly Neutral, she can't hurt us. But she can save herself and fuck us over in the process. If she is controlled in some way, she is innocent.

We should leave her be in both cases.

However it is weird that TAC is the obsession, is this some kind of forum rivalry I'm missing? He is either an important Blue Dragon or an evil mastermind......

His gameplay is very confusing. Even as townie he had played like scum and even as scum he has played like Townie.

That's why it's very important to clear him because if townie then this guy can really be handy in scum hunting....