Why did York Betray Vegapunk?


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Gol D. Roger

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Because it would make S-Shark too weak in comparison to the others. S-Shark has nothing going for him offensively other than punches and a lil bit of Fishmen Karate which is probably the reason he is punching Sanji this chapter. All the others are vastly superior.
They're never meant to be equally strong. The moment they're given the devil's fruits of different potentials is the moment it's been made pretty clear. The most we can say is, their bodies are made of the same materials, they grow in a similar fashion, they have similar functionality, and they all have lasers.
 
I genuinely do not understand why people use this moment … can you not get that at this moment this is zoro prior understanding of how kings body works which yes is correct, but king and king alone proves noT only that zoro understands his body but that it doesn’t matter by his own actions instead of face tanking everything like king was doing he chose to block zoros attacks, zoro then proceeds to call him out on this why bother block my attacks I thought they did nothing to you (zoro prior knowledge), unless you’re scared of what I can do (king proving by his actions that flame on can not defend adv coc).
Heck just look at the seraphim they know not to turn off flame on are u really gonna say the rhm of Kaido a adult lunarian doesn’t know the limits of flame on??? Or is this just agenda piece lmao maybe I got baited
He said it again last chapter and now in this chapter we find out they still not hurting them .
The king fight right now don't matter since it seem Oda have them holding back anyway .
 
They're never meant to be equally strong. The moment they're given the devil's fruits of different potentials is the moment it's been made pretty clear. The most we can say is, their bodies are made of the same materials, they grow in a similar fashion, they have similar functionality, and they all have lasers.
Yep there DF alone mean they would never be equally strong when they have hax DF like Boa and kuma ones there .
 
@Paperchampion23 Spoilers really make it sound like Saturn’s tagging along because he’s actually powerful instead of just going because of the Seraphim
I agree, but Im not 100% convinced he'll fight Luffy just yet. Maybe though, we'll see.

Egghead will define if the war with the WG will be a direct conflict with the Marines or its upper echelon members. My guess is still both but in separate battles. Saturn being powerful supports this, but im still sure hes really here to take control of the Serephim as well. They should grow larger
 

Gol D. Roger

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Luffy and zoro arent the only ones capable of beating or hurting flame off lunarians

Do you genuinely believe current sanji cant defeat a lunarian?
Or believe zoro couldn't beat a lunarian before he unlocked conquerors?
Zoro and Luffy probably aren't the only people that can hurt them in flame-off mode, but they're the only ones that we know of that can defeat them within whatever time limit they get b/w flame-off and flame-on mode. Flame-off isn't even an easily exploitable weakness according to this chapter.

So even if Lucci and Kaku have strong enough attacks to hurt the Seraphim in flame-off mode, that still doesn't prove they can defeat them before they go back to flame on again is what I am saying. I genuinely don't have the language skills to make this simpler than that to understand.

As for Sanji, I am willing to give him the benefit of doubt against the Seraphim as they're not fully developed, but not against King.
 
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