Questions & Mysteries Adjusted bounty due to inflation?

#21
Not my point

This fandom has a weird mentality
Anyone jumps tuers with awakening or adhaki bur katakuri with 2 top PUs is below those who lack haki mastery and have trash skills

All because they rate Luffy's former opponents below wings opponents
Soon they will say Admirals/Mihawk that Wings fight > kaido
no one serious should argue katakuri lacks haki mastery or skills , he is the most competent one.
the others have a great df(marco) and another is part of a special race. also doubt any of the admirals bar the fleet will be stronger than kaido but dont expect zoro /sanji fans to be unbiased to this. you know how this works. its not a weird mentality

its what fans with favorite characters do.
 
#25
Haki Enel - 1B
No haki Enel - 500M as Oda said
Vergo - 200M he kinda got defeated pretty quick
Current Lucci - 1.2B
Kaku - 800M
Stussy - 400M
Killer - 600M
Post Wano Killer - 800M
Stussy is stronger than Lucci and Kaku + being a clone of a exrocks member + being a CP0 traitor... 400M it's just too low
 
#28
I agree 400 is too low but she’s not stronger than lucci and Kaku. She’s probably on par with Kaku at best.
Her bites can put an zoan awakened user to sleep (one of the most broken ability we ever see in one piece). She also improved the shigan and kami-e. Her kami-e is so broken that it makes her create illusions of herself. In addition to that in her fight against Lucci she surpassed him in speed. And maybe her devil fruit is a mythical zoan (vampire or succubus), or is just bat zoan. And we dont know if she awakened her devil fruit.
For me she is stronger than Kaku
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Didn’t she admit she was inferior
And Buckingham Stussy was a groupie
she didnt say that, she just said that would be stupid fight them (of course she was referring in a 2v1 fight)
 
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#29
Posting a gif out of context.

Smoker allowed himself to get hit by that attack.

Prior to it we seen Smoker speed blitz Vergo twice.





Regarding the gif you posted Vergo realises Smoker let himself get hit. "So that’s what this was about?! When did you?!"



Meaning Smoker stopped fighting for the intention of winning and started fighting to get Law's heart back which both Law and Vergo acknowledge it's not about being weaker it's about honour and Smoker being in debt to Law a pirate was unacceptable to him after Law saved him and Tashigi earlier in the arc.

We have no idea how a Smoker vs Vergo fight would have went had Smoker battled with the intention to win we seen he took multiple hits to throw Vergo off he wouldn't have took them if he hadn't been going for Law's heart.

So using the word toying is very disingenuous.

:beckmoji:
 
#31
Jack & Yonko bounties
Forced Oda to put inflation on newer bounties
Especially warlords


:gokulaugh:I love it how there's someone with awakening + fs + Great Coa
Yet you guys think he's around King/Marco, or below

Somehow anyone who gets just awakening or fs or all 3 skills as kata, becomes low top tiers
Mochi ain't amazing at the end of the day, and Katakuri sort of reached his end of growth unless he gets Acoc.

Enel I argue, has one of biggest potential of one piece.

Without knowing what the fuck Observation Haki even was (never trained it) he has one of the most impressive ones at a giant range.

Goro Goro is hyped as one of the strongest of all fruits, in a world where there's Magma Nika, Yami, Gura.

Enel probably never trained, and relied all on the fruit raw power.

Give him two years of training with Rayleigh, maybe a awakening, and the man becomes a menace.
 
#32
Posting a gif out of context.

Smoker allowed himself to get hit by that attack.

Prior to it we seen Smoker speed blitz Vergo twice.





Regarding the gif you posted Vergo realises Smoker let himself get hit. "So that’s what this was about?! When did you?!"



Meaning Smoker stopped fighting for the intention of winning and started fighting to get Law's heart back which both Law and Vergo acknowledge it's not about being weaker it's about honour and Smoker being in debt to Law a pirate was unacceptable to him after Law saved him and Tashigi earlier in the arc.

We have no idea how a Smoker vs Vergo fight would have went had Smoker battled with the intention to win we seen he took multiple hits to throw Vergo off he wouldn't have took them if he hadn't been going for Law's heart.

So using the word toying is very disingenuous.

:beckmoji:
you got me
:handsup:
fairs
 
#33
Mochi ain't amazing at the end of the day, and Katakuri sort of reached his end of growth unless he gets Acoc.

Enel I argue, has one of biggest potential of one piece.

Without knowing what the fuck Observation Haki even was (never trained it) he has one of the most impressive ones at a giant range.

Goro Goro is hyped as one of the strongest of all fruits, in a world where there's Magma Nika, Yami, Gura.

Enel probably never trained, and relied all on the fruit raw power.

Give him two years of training with Rayleigh, maybe a awakening, and the man becomes a menace.
Enel is already >= Lucci >= King/Marco
Adhaki or not.
I know dfs are differents
Katakuri has a special weapon + awakening + fs + great CoA
That's enough to be low top tier / top inbetweener

Luffy needed 2 PUs (fs + adcoa) to be Low top tier like awakened Kid and Law were with only 1
All because his df is only broken in g5
While Law and kid have broken dfs in base and awakening multply that more
 
#34
Enel would have a 500 million berry bounty acording to Oda.
Which bounty was near Ace a Yonko Commander. So Enel bounty still should be near Yonko Commander. Cracker has the lowest bounty at 860, and I see Enel stronger than Cracker, thunder should bypass his cookies and hit Cracker IMO. So above Cracker and below Smothie bounties should be fine.
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Even if we tried things just don't make sense, imagine thinking that Luffy started grandline by defeating a 2 billion man
Who is that 2 billion guy? And why not?
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Jack & Yonko bounties
Forced Oda to put inflation on newer bounties
Especially warlords


:gokulaugh:I love it how there's someone with awakening + fs + Great Coa
Yet you guys think he's around King/Marco, or below

Somehow anyone who gets just awakening or fs or all 3 skills as kata, becomes low top tiers

Because we have people such as Boa sisters who have haki barrier, flowing haki and being inferior to hakilesss Luffy.

Katakuri has skills, not power. Has FS, hard haki, but his AP ain't top tier. His awakening also doesn't grant him more raw power since Katakuri already can do Gear 3 level attacks in base. His awakening gives more versality.
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Posting a gif out of context.

Smoker allowed himself to get hit by that attack.

Prior to it we seen Smoker speed blitz Vergo twice.





Regarding the gif you posted Vergo realises Smoker let himself get hit. "So that’s what this was about?! When did you?!"



Meaning Smoker stopped fighting for the intention of winning and started fighting to get Law's heart back which both Law and Vergo acknowledge it's not about being weaker it's about honour and Smoker being in debt to Law a pirate was unacceptable to him after Law saved him and Tashigi earlier in the arc.

We have no idea how a Smoker vs Vergo fight would have went had Smoker battled with the intention to win we seen he took multiple hits to throw Vergo off he wouldn't have took them if he hadn't been going for Law's heart.

So using the word toying is very disingenuous.

:beckmoji:

Vergo wasn't using his full power, Smoker is strong for sure, but inferior to Vergo.
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Enel is already >= Lucci >= King/Marco
Adhaki or not.
I know dfs are differents
Katakuri has a special weapon + awakening + fs + great CoA
That's enough to be low top tier / top inbetweener

Luffy needed 2 PUs (fs + adcoa) to be Low top tier like awakened Kid and Law were with only 1
All because his df is only broken in g5
While Law and kid have broken dfs in base and awakening multply that more

How did Luffy need FS+adCoA to be in the same rank as Katakuri when Luffy already defeated him with AdCoA and FS? Yeah, Luffy defeated him without FS.
 
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nik87

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#37
:gokulaugh:I love it how there's someone with awakening + fs + Great Coa
Yet you guys think he's around King/Marco, or below

Somehow anyone who gets just awakening or fs or all 3 skills as kata, becomes low top tiers
You do know that even pre-TS Enel is above Katakuri and he doesnt have FS, doesnt have Awakening and unknown CoA... :milaugh:
Katakuri is not in the same sphere as the god of thunder.
Katakuri's effective threat level is way below Queen, justified, considering that Queen is a far more troublesome guy on the battlefield.
Katakuri and low top tier... Nice plan if he didnt lose to dog shitte level of opponent despite delivering 113 hits. :saden:
 
#38
Neither was Smoker based on his intentions.

What is Vergo's full power exactly?

Full body haki? All it does is prevent devil fruits from effecting someone which is why he never used it against Smoker who was physically pressing him.

Smoker gave Law his heart as last resort, as he was in debt with him.

Smoker gave it all to recover his heart, Smoker with or without intentions, would had lost. Vergo has better feats
 
#39
There's clearly a cap in the bounties.

Seems to be pretty hard for any captain that isn't a Emperor to get over the 400m, like besides Kid and Chinjao, only the former Warlords, that are a special case, and the Emperors have it.

The bounties from 400 to 1b seems to be nearly only things that Emperors officers and associates get, while anything more than 1b only for the top officers of Emperors, some Very special individuals like the ex-Warlords and Kid or the Emperors themselfs
 
#40
There's clearly a cap in the bounties.

Seems to be pretty hard for any captain that isn't a Emperor to get over the 400m, like besides Kid and Chinjao, only the former Warlords, that are a special case, and the Emperors have it.

The bounties from 400 to 1b seems to be nearly only things that Emperors officers and associates get, while anything more than 1b only for the top officers of Emperors, some Very special individuals like the ex-Warlords and Kid or the Emperors themselfs
Above 400 are a lot of characters too. Example Don Chinjao or Oars Jr.
 
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