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Light D Lamperouge

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I'm not gonna lie, I was somewhat salty when people were comparing Phoenix's joker to Ledgers. Ledger IS the Joker. Phoenix hardly played Joker, his performance was great no doubt, but he was playing Arthur Fleck not Joker.
Ditto. I can't see anyone topping him. Leto's was uh, not even gonna go there. Phoenix did a good job, but it can't measure up. As you said Heath is the Joker. I can only imagine what the 3rd movie would look like had he lived. Iirc, there were plans of him appearing in the movie again.
 
Bakura's discord thunderdome was very similar to what Toshi's suggesting. But instead of having everyone vote for it, you usually have 3 judges who review the arguments and say which debater one. Who had the stronger argument, not necessarily which character should win and all that.

Usually restricted to 3 to 5 posts per person.
But there is great room for bias there.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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But there is great room for bias there.
Usually the judges have to explain their reasoning in great detail. No short sticking people. They explain thoroughly what a debater did right / wrong in presenting their arguments before a final verdict. An anonymous vote just leaves it open to fans of the character to swarm them.

I could give a shit argument for Zoro here and probably beat Sentinel in a debate when he's arguing for Katakuri just because we're a very Zoro biased community.
 

Light D Lamperouge

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Usually the judges have to explain their reasoning in great detail. No short sticking people. They explain thoroughly what a debater did right / wrong in presenting their arguments before a final verdict. An anonymous vote just leaves it open to fans of the character to swarm them.
You'd have to find three at least good debaters that are willing to do so. Do you have any candidates in mind?
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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You'd have to find three at least good debaters that are willing to do so. Do you have any candidates in mind?
It's not a permanent thing, on a thread by thread basis whoever wants to judge, and approved by both people debating.
Yeah. So it'd be different for each debate. Besides, we'd need people to debate first before picking judges lmao.
 

Light D Lamperouge

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It's not a permanent thing, on a thread by thread basis whoever wants to judge, and approved by both people debating.
Aye, figured that. It's bound to get repetitive though. I'd much rather for my arguments to be judged by someone who makes it to top tier in @Cinera's arena posters ranking, then someone low tier lmao.

The idea is good. I've been thinking about recommending @Bogard something like this, or a debater of the month. But this is probably the better option. It's at least far less biased. A reward can be like a tag of the winner's choosing. I think it would spark up interest and work as a nice incentive to step up your game.


Yeah. So it'd be different for each debate. Besides, we'd need people to debate first before picking judges lmao.
Read above.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Aye, figured that. It's bound to get repetitive though. I'd much rather for my arguments to be judged by someone who makes it to top tier in @Cinera's arena posters ranking, then someone low tier lmao.

The idea is good. I've been thinking about recommending @Bogard something like this, or a debater of the month. But this is probably the better option. It's at least far less biased. A reward can be like a tag of the winner's choosing. I think it would spark up interest and work as a nice incentive to step up your game.



Read above.
Usually you debate for the sole perk of being smug over the other person for a month. It's all for shits and giggles and sometimes feeling will get hurt. I wouldn't wanna debate for any awards or shit. Just the satisfaction of it.
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You could always just ask Cinera and 2 others you trust to judge your debate Light, assuming your opponent is okay with it.
 

Light D Lamperouge

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Usually you debate for the sole perk of being smug over the other person for a month. It's all for shits and giggles and sometimes feeling will get hurt. I wouldn't wanna debate for any awards or shit. Just the satisfaction of it.
I mean that's fine. An incentive would spark up more interest though.


You could always just ask Cinera and 2 others you trust to judge your debate Light, assuming your opponent is okay with it.
You missed the point. It's not about whom I trust or like or whatever.
 

Light D Lamperouge

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So what is your point, you want someone who Cinera trusts?
No. Someone who is a good debater. Cinera's list is based on multiple factors. I could give two shits about you personally, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't tip off my hat if you are good and have good arguments.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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No. Someone who is a good debater. Cinera's list is based on multiple factors. I could give two shits about you personally, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't tip off my hat if you are good and have good arguments.
So we're talking about the same thing here? Someone you trust to give your debate a thorough read and thought out answer? I dunno why Cinera's tier list would need to be factored in for you. It's not like we don't have plenty of good and reliable powerscalers here to pick from. I ain't asking you to dig up Kiiro's corpse and have him judge your debates.
 

Light D Lamperouge

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So we're talking about the same thing here?
Apparently.

Someone you trust to give your debate a thorough read and thought out answer?
Yup. And someone that knows what they are doing.


I dunno why Cinera's tier list would need to be factored in for you.
That was more of a joke. But yes the people on his list are the top ones. I said I'd rather have them.


t's not like we don't have plenty of good and reliable powerscalers here to pick from.
Yup.
 
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Usually the judges have to explain their reasoning in great detail. No short sticking people. They explain thoroughly what a debater did right / wrong in presenting their arguments before a final verdict. An anonymous vote just leaves it open to fans of the character to swarm them.

I could give a shit argument for Zoro here and probably beat Sentinel in a debate when he's arguing for Katakuri just because we're a very Zoro biased community.
Sounds fun lmao
Lets make that bitch happen
 
Lmfao. Of course you'd like it.

Find someone you wanna debate and I'll make the thread for ya. I'll even find judges if you want.
I wanna debate you
Dressrosa Santoryu Zoro vs Cracker

Since your last excuse for debating me on that discord server instead of debating me here was a bunch of Zoro fanboys supporting me, in 1v1 no one is going to support me or you.

Unless you are a pussy ass bitch with no balls, accept my challenge.

I even have judges in mind
@Admiral Lee Hung
@silverfire
@ZenZu

None of the three is particularly a yonkotard or a zorotard.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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I wanna debate you
Dressrosa Santoryu Zoro vs Cracker

Since your last excuse for debating me on that discord server instead of debating me here was a bunch of Zoro fanboys supporting me, in 1v1 no one is going to support me or you.

Unless you are a pussy ass bitch with no balls, accept my challenge.

I even have judges in mind
@Admiral Lee Hung
@silverfire
@ZenZu

None of the three is particularly a yonkotard or a zorotard.
Lmfao. I shoulda seen this coming.

Not sure that's the debate that should start off Worstgen. Or the debate I'd wanna have.
 
Lmfao. I shoulda seen this coming.

Not sure that's the debate that should start off Worstgen. Or the debate I'd wanna have.
Don't be a lil pussy, show me your great debating skills, defeat me if you can.
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DOFLAMINGO VS CRACKER
VERGO VS PH SANJI
DOGTOOTH VS MARCO
All these sound like very common topics which have been debated to death. I don't think we wanna start off with these because I feel like essays people would write on them would be boring for a lot of people.

I think me debating @TheAncientCenturion on Zoro vs Cracker would be pretty eventful.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
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I wanna debate you
Dressrosa Santoryu Zoro vs Cracker

Since your last excuse for debating me on that discord server instead of debating me here was a bunch of Zoro fanboys supporting me, in 1v1 no one is going to support me or you.

Unless you are a pussy ass bitch with no balls, accept my challenge.

I even have judges in mind
@Admiral Lee Hung
@silverfire
@ZenZu

None of the three is particularly a yonkotard or a zorotard.
๐Ÿ˜‚ man just set you up TAC. Faked the alley oop pass and jammed it on your headtop.
 
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