General & Others Would Luffy beating Kizaru add to or lessen his hype
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The problem is,Oda introduced Revs commanders to fight someone.They need match ups.There are also the zoodiacs vice admirals and the celestian dragons holy knights.There a lot of people from the WG side that need some opponent.I think Kidd and Law will get some wins in the final war.Final war should include,Luffy+grand fleet+allied nations,Supernovas like Kidd and Law,revolutionaires,revolting nations and subordinates and of course any pirate that is willing to throw a jab at them.This war should include loads of people.
Doflamingo is arguably just as strong if not stronger than king and queen
Someone luffy fought in dressrosa
King and queen being taken out later doesn't put them over doflamingo let alone katakuri
Luffy an emperor defeating an admiral in this case kizaru earlier doesn't ruin his portrayal and hype compared to Fujitora and ryokugyu
Luffy beating kaido in wano does ruin his hype and portrayal even compared to zoro and sanji's final opponents
Someone luffy fought in dressrosa
King and queen being taken out later doesn't put them over doflamingo let alone katakuri
Luffy an emperor defeating an admiral in this case kizaru earlier doesn't ruin his portrayal and hype compared to Fujitora and ryokugyu
Luffy beating kaido in wano does ruin his hype and portrayal even compared to zoro and sanji's final opponents
Doffy was heavily nerfed by the time Luffy finally fought him.
The more we saw of katakuri the clearer it was that he was below the calamities. Hell his bounty was so much lower than theirs for a reason.
And again, you can preface it as much as you want but oda has his patterns and it’s been consistent against every major saga enemy throughout one piece.
The more we saw of katakuri the clearer it was that he was below the calamities. Hell his bounty was so much lower than theirs for a reason.
And again, you can preface it as much as you want but oda has his patterns and it’s been consistent against every major saga enemy throughout one piece.
It doesn't work like that
Unless They also fight Luffy!
Even then they need to given better portrayal
We know already Admirals are on the same level , same as OG Yonko are on same tier/level.
Kizaru fighting Luffy means he's above the other 2
Oda never gives Luffy the weakest villain of X group.
Katakuri /Warlords (bar Jinbei, Moriah) > Calamities
Kizaru >= Kuzan/ GB/Fuji
Kaido > BM & other top tiers bar EoS Teach & Imu
Unless They also fight Luffy!
Even then they need to given better portrayal
We know already Admirals are on the same level , same as OG Yonko are on same tier/level.
Kizaru fighting Luffy means he's above the other 2
Oda never gives Luffy the weakest villain of X group.
Katakuri /Warlords (bar Jinbei, Moriah) > Calamities
Kizaru >= Kuzan/ GB/Fuji
Kaido > BM & other top tiers bar EoS Teach & Imu
You're discussing with people who think
Fighting zoro/sanji later on means you're superior to Luffy former opponents
Watch them say X top tiers > Kaido/Yonko coz they fought Wings later on
Imagine comparing someone who was Co-Main villain of WCI arc to underlings of Wano Main villain
King & Queen aren't even 3rd most important villains of Yonko Saga , that's Cracker who was Luffy's only notable side fight in Yonko Saga!
Kaido and BM > Katakuri > Craker > Calamities / Perospero
Fighting zoro/sanji later on means you're superior to Luffy former opponents
Watch them say X top tiers > Kaido/Yonko coz they fought Wings later on
Imagine comparing someone who was Co-Main villain of WCI arc to underlings of Wano Main villain
King & Queen aren't even 3rd most important villains of Yonko Saga , that's Cracker who was Luffy's only notable side fight in Yonko Saga!
Kaido and BM > Katakuri > Craker > Calamities / Perospero
Luffy should just wipe the floor with Kizaru or else Loda is a hax for making fun of Kaido. Its end game so he should show why the Gorosei fear his awakening by negging whoever comes to Egghead.
His PK rival Shanks just flexed and one shot Kidd and co, BB is surely outwitting Torafal so now the onus is on Loda to make his MC do something of the likes of his rival or even surpass them. So I fully believe Egghead is wear Sun God Nika flexes the power of imagination and Once Vegapank tells Luffy that he is not rubber man but a man who can do everything he imagines and that'll make him the freesest of all in the seas, he'll neg the entire marine fleet except Loosezaru and a couple of VA with CoC blast like Shanks in Film Red and then advcoc the shit of out Loosezaru and send him to Lakainu's desk at the speed of light after being hit by it.
At Sabaody, Luffy was a rookie and had no haki flex. At Egghead, Luffy is a man with 3 advanced haki(haki god after shanks), Awakened df of a God that no one awakened for 800 fn years. Its over for them marines.
His PK rival Shanks just flexed and one shot Kidd and co, BB is surely outwitting Torafal so now the onus is on Loda to make his MC do something of the likes of his rival or even surpass them. So I fully believe Egghead is wear Sun God Nika flexes the power of imagination and Once Vegapank tells Luffy that he is not rubber man but a man who can do everything he imagines and that'll make him the freesest of all in the seas, he'll neg the entire marine fleet except Loosezaru and a couple of VA with CoC blast like Shanks in Film Red and then advcoc the shit of out Loosezaru and send him to Lakainu's desk at the speed of light after being hit by it.
At Sabaody, Luffy was a rookie and had no haki flex. At Egghead, Luffy is a man with 3 advanced haki(haki god after shanks), Awakened df of a God that no one awakened for 800 fn years. Its over for them marines.
Katakuri is stronger than doflamingo
You can't compare doflamingo, katakuri, kaido, and kizaru to mr. 3...
Thats not a pattern
- Zoro and sanji have lower bounties than king and queen.
- Luffy, kid, and law all have 3 billion
- Pekoms and tamago have higher bounties than oven and daifuku
- Whos who had a bounty higher than jinbe's at first
- Jinbe has a higher bounty than current sanji
You can't compare doflamingo, katakuri, kaido, and kizaru to mr. 3...
Thats not a pattern
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Not really
Even if they fight the same opponent.
Is Crocodile weaker than Moriah? Jinbei? Cause he lost way before other Warlords
Is Kaido weaker than Shanks or current Teach?
Is
Etc...
He would switch up about bounties argument
He wasn't rating Warlords this high until he saw bounties
Imagine scaling YCs from different crews based on bounties which ODA said doesn't reveal their true PL since WG doesn't even know how to gauge their true threat and PL
Even if they fight the same opponent.
Is Crocodile weaker than Moriah? Jinbei? Cause he lost way before other Warlords
Is Kaido weaker than Shanks or current Teach?
Is
Etc...
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He would switch up about bounties argument
He wasn't rating Warlords this high until he saw bounties
Imagine scaling YCs from different crews based on bounties which ODA said doesn't reveal their true PL since WG doesn't even know how to gauge their true threat and PL
Its not the same role because its completely different characters
The strength of luffy and his opponets dont play a role in zoro's and sanjis future ones
Kizaru's portrayal doesn't just disappear after losing
Saying mr. 3 is weaker than mr. 2 and 1 so luffys opponents are weaker than zoro and sanji's next ones is still not a pattern...
If you're gonna go that route at least keep the same energy with doflamingo who's more of a beast pirate than kata at least
The strength of luffy and his opponets dont play a role in zoro's and sanjis future ones
Kizaru's portrayal doesn't just disappear after losing
Saying mr. 3 is weaker than mr. 2 and 1 so luffys opponents are weaker than zoro and sanji's next ones is still not a pattern...
If you're gonna go that route at least keep the same energy with doflamingo who's more of a beast pirate than kata at least
No because it’s the role Kata played, a minor villain at the end of an arc that connected to a major saga.
Doffy was a major villain, the entire dressrosa saga was about him. Kata was a small intro villain at the end of WCI who literally was not important to the arc other than he fought luffy. Which was literally Mr. 3s role in Little Garden as well.
And yeah Kizarus won’t disappear, but we both know odas going to raise Fujis and Ryos to be well over kizarus in order to “keep tension”
Doffy was a major villain, the entire dressrosa saga was about him. Kata was a small intro villain at the end of WCI who literally was not important to the arc other than he fought luffy. Which was literally Mr. 3s role in Little Garden as well.
And yeah Kizarus won’t disappear, but we both know odas going to raise Fujis and Ryos to be well over kizarus in order to “keep tension”